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Tamsar
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 24 Jan 2011 : 18:34:07
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I remember the feeling of awe and wonder I felt upon first opening the Gray Box for the first time back in the summer of 1987. I'd been eagerly awaiting the release of the campaign setting since I bought Darkwalker on the Moonshae, and being totally engrossed in the novel to the extent that I read the whole book in one go, finally finishing it with sleep blurred eyes at around 4am.
I would say that I own about 90% of all published FR gaming material & Novels, although I stopped collecting with the advent of 4th edition, and even before then my purchases were winding down.
This got me to thinking, when and what was the last product you bought that engendered that feeling of "Wow, this is awesome?"
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USA
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ZeshinX
Learned Scribe
Canada
210 Posts |
Posted - 24 Jan 2011 : 18:38:49
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
3054 Posts |
Posted - 24 Jan 2011 : 19:15:15
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| I own about 99% and the most recent published item is my latest. |
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
USA
3243 Posts |
Posted - 24 Jan 2011 : 19:31:45
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| I get that feeling every month. Being a subscriber to Pathfinder's Adventure Paths means I get a sweet delivery of goodness every month. Now, it may not be the AP that gives me that feeling, but since Paizo's become my FLGS, I get all my goodies there. Why, just last week, I got my copy of BT's Time of War. |
I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.
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Mr_Miscellany
Senior Scribe
545 Posts |
Posted - 24 Jan 2011 : 19:47:56
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Hrm...got the impression the OP was talking Realms products. :p
For me it would be the Backdrop: Cormyr article in the July 2008 issue of Dragon Magazine (#365). |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36803 Posts |
Posted - 24 Jan 2011 : 21:26:09
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Originally posted by Tamsar
I remember the feeling of awe and wonder I felt upon first opening the Gray Box for the first time back in the summer of 1987. I'd been eagerly awaiting the release of the campaign setting since I bought Darkwalker on the Moonshae, and being totally engrossed in the novel to the extent that I read the whole book in one go, finally finishing it with sleep blurred eyes at around 4am.
I would say that I own about 90% of all published FR gaming material & Novels, although I stopped collecting with the advent of 4th edition, and even before then my purchases were winding down.
This got me to thinking, when and what was the last product you bought that engendered that feeling of "Wow, this is awesome?"
The printed Grand History of the Realms.
Or for a time more recently, but with an older product, when I discovered that I'd unknowingly purchased the "What Is the Forgotten Realms, Anyway?" promo item. |
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Therise
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 24 Jan 2011 : 22:02:36
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For me, I loved buying Realmsy things through at least the hardback with Halruaa in it, which I thought was pretty cool. My purchase history has been long, having bought almost everything Realmsy since the early Dragon magazines that held glimpses into Elminster's world.
The last thing I bought and kept was the hardback Grand History of the Realms. Which was great up until the last few pages (and a few other insertions). I loved the author's online version, but the final few historical details in the hardback felt quite literally like someone had stuck a poisoned knife in the back of the Realms.
I bought the 4E FRCG but was so disgusted I returned it to the store. Haven't bought a thing since, although I did borrow the novels Unclean and Elminster Must Die! from the library. And I wasn't impressed, at all.
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Wenin
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 24 Jan 2011 : 22:30:29
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Last product for me was Drow of the Underdark.
It would have been Grand History of the Realms, if it didn't mark the demarcation between 3.5 and 4.0 (for me) |
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Mace Hammerhand
Great Reader
Germany
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Posted - 24 Jan 2011 : 22:39:13
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Call me jaded, but the wow-effect in Realms products has long left the building, overall wow would be for Cloak & Dagger, with a not-so-big wow for Silver Marches. Sure there were magical items etc in the older products (2nd and 1st edition) but it was far less compared to the doodats and stuff in 3e. The more time passes from my sitting in as DM for D&D 3e, the more I wish for the simplicity of 2nd, I had hoped the headaches of arguments would go away with everything clear cut, but 3e, despite its format, takes players who live and breathe the game, not play once every month.
The multitude of options did not truly help.
As for GHotR, I was excited, yes, until I reached the whole divine soap opera business which gave way to the nonesense that is 4e |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36803 Posts |
Posted - 24 Jan 2011 : 22:56:25
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Originally posted by Mace Hammerhand
Call me jaded, but the wow-effect in Realms products has long left the building, overall wow would be for Cloak & Dagger, with a not-so-big wow for Silver Marches. Sure there were magical items etc in the older products (2nd and 1st edition) but it was far less compared to the doodats and stuff in 3e. The more time passes from my sitting in as DM for D&D 3e, the more I wish for the simplicity of 2nd, I had hoped the headaches of arguments would go away with everything clear cut, but 3e, despite its format, takes players who live and breathe the game, not play once every month.
The multitude of options did not truly help.
As for GHotR, I was excited, yes, until I reached the whole divine soap opera business which gave way to the nonesense that is 4e
Ah, Cloak & Dagger. Still a favorite for me, and I consider it one of the best Realms supplements. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31772 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jan 2011 : 00:27:31
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Originally posted by Tamsar
This got me to thinking, when and what was the last product you bought that engendered that feeling of "Wow, this is awesome?"
Does it have to be a product in the physical hard-copy sense? Because DDI articles are purchased products, I suppose, and I only just recently re-embraced this feeling with Ed's latest "Eye on the Realms" write-ups. They're a perfect reflection of what we all loved best about the days of 2e Ed-lore. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31772 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jan 2011 : 00:29:46
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Ah, Cloak & Dagger. Still a favorite for me, and I consider it one of the best Realms supplements.
Indeed. I purchased two copies during it's initial release... because I knew, ultimately, that this tome would be a regular feature at my gaming table. And it still is, even today... though my second copy has heaps of scribbled notes and Post-It! pieces detailing additions and/or my own lore-take on a particular element of the book.  |
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GMWestermeyer
Learned Scribe
USA
215 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jan 2011 : 00:41:57
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Definitely Cloak & Dagger, I can't help wishing that had been released ten years earlier.
I never intended to buy any 3e FR products, but I have acquired many of them for free from people getting rid of them for various reasons. While there is a lot I don't like in 3e FR there is some salvagable material and even some brilliant ideas. The Thayan Enclaves, for example, are truly awesome. :)
If I want that old school, opening the FR boxed set feeling back, I go to my Dragon CD and read the early FR articles. I hoped to get the feeling back with Ed Greenwood's Knights of Myth Drannor novel trilogy but those were too frantically paced for me, and felt like 3e, not 1e. I hate saying that, because I love Ed's work, but his strength has never bene novel writing, but rather world building and adventure designs (and fan contact at cons, that man can work a room!).
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Originally posted by Therise
The last thing I bought and kept was the hardback Grand History of the Realms. Which was great up until the last few pages (and a few other insertions). I loved the author's online version, but the final few historical details in the hardback felt quite literally like someone had stuck a poisoned knife in the back of the Realms.
Yeah, I've been wondering if I should try to buy the hardbacked. I admit, I was biased against the online version though I downloaded it, because I thought my Kara-tur Timeline was damn good, but he ever mentioned or acknowledged it. I looked in the hardback at the store and didn't see any mention either, and since he must have used the material I helped compile when working with Steven Schend on the old FR encyclopedia product, I childishly had my feelings hurt.
But now that I am getting back into the Realms, I'm wondering if the hardback has enough pre-4e material that isn't in the online pdf that I should purchase it. Any one got an opinion on that?
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Elminster Must Die! from the library. And I wasn't impressed, at all.
I just checked out this amongst a bunch of other FR novels - mostly older books. I thought it might be an intersting way to examine this 4e Realms.
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Halidan
Senior Scribe
USA
470 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jan 2011 : 01:20:32
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| The last FR item that I bought, used and realy enjoyed was the Hardback version of The Grand History of the Realms I do have a couple of the 4E Realms adventurers, which I've been thinking about using in my current 3.5/Pathfinder campaign. The Ruins of Spellguard looks like it will work out really well, after I cut out the adventurer's hotel and add in some cavern material that I've taken from the Troll Lord's Castle Zagyg Upper Works. |
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althen artren
Senior Scribe
USA
780 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jan 2011 : 02:16:05
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
3054 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jan 2011 : 11:58:26
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Ah, Cloak & Dagger. Still a favorite for me, and I consider it one of the best Realms supplements.
I wonder how excited you would get should they ever decide to release a Cloak & Dagger 2 which would further develop all that was talked about in the original |
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Quale
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 25 Jan 2011 : 12:48:04
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Agreed about Cloak and Dagger, more recently Power of Faerun or LEoF (tough both had disappointing parts).
After that only a few online articles, the last one being Ecology of the Sharn.
Generally in D&D, just a few days ago, Lost Cities of Golarion. |
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Tyranthraxus
Senior Scribe
Netherlands
423 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jan 2011 : 14:26:04
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| The last time I had such a feeling was when I read the Returned Abeir section in the 4e FRCG. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36803 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jan 2011 : 14:38:39
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Ah, Cloak & Dagger. Still a favorite for me, and I consider it one of the best Realms supplements.
I wonder how excited you would get should they ever decide to release a Cloak & Dagger 2 which would further develop all that was talked about in the original
Heh. Considering the way they unceremoniously ended the Manshoon Wars and ignored the Harper Schism (and then disbanded the Harpers altogether!), it's not overly likely. |
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Diffan
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 25 Jan 2011 : 14:54:22
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I got that feeling when I realized I had 3 pre-made FR adventures to run (Sons of Gruumsh, Pool of Radiance: Ruins of Myth Drannor, City of the Spider Queen) that my group has never done before and that getting into that whole campaign is going to be lots of fun. Seriously excited to start up the campaign!!
Also found a PDF of the Excape from Sembia adventure for 4E so I'm excited to run that too. Lots of FR stuff to run, soooo little time. |
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Jimbobx
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 25 Jan 2011 : 15:05:56
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| About 2 years ago I reverently unwrapped and digested 'The North: Guide to the Savage Frontier' grey boxset. It brought a similar feeling to my first reading of the D&D red books - diligently drawing out graph paper maps in the library at lunchtime. Ah to go back to those halcyon days of d&d :) |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31772 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jan 2011 : 15:35:16
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Ah, Cloak & Dagger. Still a favorite for me, and I consider it one of the best Realms supplements.
I wonder how excited you would get should they ever decide to release a Cloak & Dagger 2 which would further develop all that was talked about in the original
Heh. Considering the way they unceremoniously ended the Manshoon Wars and ignored the Harper Schism (and then disbanded the Harpers altogether!), it's not overly likely.
Not only that, but it's clear from most of the more relevant 4e lore, that the focus is on developing new plot-elements that play more on the post-Spellplague status of the Realms, than what came previously. |
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GRYPHON
Senior Scribe
USA
527 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jan 2011 : 15:41:18
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| 2E Drow of the Underdark, LEoF, and Cloak & Dagger... |
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
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Posted - 25 Jan 2011 : 17:56:17
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Ah, Cloak & Dagger. Still a favorite for me, and I consider it one of the best Realms supplements.
I wonder how excited you would get should they ever decide to release a Cloak & Dagger 2 which would further develop all that was talked about in the original
Heh. Considering the way they unceremoniously ended the Manshoon Wars and ignored the Harper Schism (and then disbanded the Harpers altogether!), it's not overly likely.
Not only that, but it's clear from most of the more relevant 4e lore, that the focus is on developing new plot-elements that play more on the post-Spellplague status of the Realms, than what came previously.
Never say never, my sagely friends. 
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'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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Mr_Miscellany
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 25 Jan 2011 : 18:07:50
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| Just got that feeling again after reading Ed's comments on Lothen yesterday. In fact, Ed's comments almost always leave me feeling jazzed up and eager to think Realms. |
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idilippy
Senior Scribe
USA
417 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jan 2011 : 19:17:30
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| When I got Serpent Kingdoms and the City of Splendors book in the mail the same week, Serpent Kingdoms from Paizo's sale and City of Splendors from ebay, I was more excited for a FR book than I've been in a long time. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 25 Jan 2011 : 20:06:03
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Originally posted by idilippy
When I got Serpent Kingdoms and the City of Splendors book in the mail the same week, Serpent Kingdoms from Paizo's sale and City of Splendors from ebay, I was more excited for a FR book than I've been in a long time.
I was very excited about City of Splendors: Waterdeep, myself. I've long been a huge fan of all things Waterdhavian, so getting my hands on that book was a very good thing. I bought it on my lunchbreak the day it came out, and before even getting out of my car back at the office, I was looking to see what changes had been made to the roster of Lords. 'Twas most cool to see Kyri added to the list, because I'd long thought she was a good candidate. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 26 Jan 2011 : 00:02:44
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Ah, Cloak & Dagger. Still a favorite for me, and I consider it one of the best Realms supplements.
I wonder how excited you would get should they ever decide to release a Cloak & Dagger 2 which would further develop all that was talked about in the original
Heh. Considering the way they unceremoniously ended the Manshoon Wars and ignored the Harper Schism (and then disbanded the Harpers altogether!), it's not overly likely.
Not only that, but it's clear from most of the more relevant 4e lore, that the focus is on developing new plot-elements that play more on the post-Spellplague status of the Realms, than what came previously.
Never say never, my sagely friends.
Cheers
Always tempting, eh friend Erik?
I should note that my above rambling wasn't in any way meant as a strike against the function of the 4e Realms. I merely sought to indicate what Rich Baker and other 4e designers have said when questions about prior plot-lines from previous editions have been brought up. Not to ignore them wholesale, but to focus instead, on developing new plot-lines for the new edition.
I'd very much like to see the weaving of older established plots through some of the new stuff, though. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31772 Posts |
Posted - 26 Jan 2011 : 00:04:19
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Originally posted by idilippy
When I got Serpent Kingdoms and the City of Splendors book in the mail the same week, Serpent Kingdoms from Paizo's sale and City of Splendors from ebay, I was more excited for a FR book than I've been in a long time.
Serpent Kingdoms remains one of the best RPG tomes in my entire 30+ year collection. Not only because of the collective Eric- and Ed-lore. But, also, because I've long been a fan of the scaly-folk. |
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althen artren
Senior Scribe
USA
780 Posts |
Posted - 26 Jan 2011 : 02:20:45
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