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The Sage
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Posted - 20 Jan 2011 :  05:48:45  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sfdragon

and that Robin stayed dead.
Errr... you know Jason Todd is back, right?
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Chosen of Asmodeus
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As the saying goes, no one stays dead in comics except Uncle Ben.
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Alystra Illianniis
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Not true! Even he "came back"!! There was an arc with a future Spider-Man and his daughter who became the "new" hobgoblin of that time and came back to change history and write her father out of existence by keeping Ben from getting killed in an alternate universe, and brought him back to the 616 one. Fubared the time-line of both Earths. Long story short, Ben was "resurrected"....
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The Sage
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And people thought the 90's had some crazy Spidey-stories.
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...This makes me sad.
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Alystra Illianniis
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Sage, I'm shocked! You didn't read that arc? It WAS pretty weird. And there was a really disturbing ending to it, too....
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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis

Sage, I'm shocked! You didn't read that arc? It WAS pretty weird. And there was a really disturbing ending to it, too....
Oh, I read it. ['Twas from the short-lived Sensational Spider-Man series, wasn't it?] I was just commenting on the fact that Marvel can still accomplish weird Spidey-tales in the 00's as well.
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quote:
Originally posted by Chosen of Asmodeus

As the saying goes, no one stays dead in comics except Uncle Ben.


And Blink. Her death was entirely off-screen, we never had a body, she was just gone. And yet, despite people begging Marvel to bring her back, they refused. Even normal humans have come back from the dead in the Marvel universe, but not a mutant whose death was simply disappearing out of existence. That was one of the things that turned me against the X-books.
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The death of Robin - ah yes - my brother had that comic. I never could make myself try and read it. The cover and the title spoiled the ending for me
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The Sage
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Posted - 20 Jan 2011 :  12:50:15  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Chosen of Asmodeus

As the saying goes, no one stays dead in comics except Uncle Ben.


And Blink. Her death was entirely off-screen, we never had a body, she was just gone. And yet, despite people begging Marvel to bring her back, they refused. Even normal humans have come back from the dead in the Marvel universe, but not a mutant whose death was simply disappearing out of existence. That was one of the things that turned me against the X-books.
Errr... actually, I think Blink did make a comeback -- though, as part of the "Exiles," if I'm remembering things correctly.
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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Chosen of Asmodeus

As the saying goes, no one stays dead in comics except Uncle Ben.


And Blink. Her death was entirely off-screen, we never had a body, she was just gone. And yet, despite people begging Marvel to bring her back, they refused. Even normal humans have come back from the dead in the Marvel universe, but not a mutant whose death was simply disappearing out of existence. That was one of the things that turned me against the X-books.
Errr... actually, I think Blink did make a comeback -- though, as part of the "Exiles," if I'm remembering things correctly.


I know she was around in the Age of Apocalypse, but she wasn't one of the ones that flipped back to the main universe. If they have finally brought her back, it was years after I quit reading Marvel in disgust over various things in the X-books -- which included their then-adamant refusal to bring her back. Her death was the perfect obscure death -- in fact, she just disappeared; her death was only confirmed in the letters in the back of the comics.

That was what irked me: she was the perfect candidate to bring back (going by the "no body, no death" rule), people were asking for her to come back, but the Marvel folks instead preferred to bring back -- often within months -- every other person who had died in the Marvel universe. Instead of the Pearly Gates, Marvel had a Pearly Revolving Door -- but for someone whose death we never saw, it was only a one-way door.
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The Sage
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I'll have to check up on this, but I think it had to do with "how" she disappeared that eventually lead to her return with the Exiles. Possibly Phalanx-related? Hmmm. Must look into that.
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The Red Walker
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I didn't know Batman, Robin, Spidey and all were in Gauntylgrym....

Are they now dancing in the forest with Cattie as well??
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quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker

I didn't know Batman, Robin, Spidey and all were in Gauntylgrym....

Are they now dancing in the forest with Cattie as well??


You're not accusing the moderators of off-topic discussion are you?
Perish the though
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The Red Walker
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quote:
Originally posted by Alisttair

quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker

I didn't know Batman, Robin, Spidey and all were in Gauntylgrym....

Are they now dancing in the forest with Cattie as well??


You're not accusing the moderators of off-topic discussion are you?
Perish the though


Just a friendly jab, since Sage had been beset with a bit of off-topicsness in Ask Ed!

In truth though, It's one of the things I like best about our mods!
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Alystra Illianniis
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Agreed. As as a matter of fact, I wrote a tale wherein Spidey did indeed visit the Realms- and teamed with Drizzt, no less! (He was in the black suit, FYI- you can well imagine what Drizzt must have thought of that.... Add in the obligatory LotR comments from Pete, and it was a fun romp to write!!) I really MUST find that and post it here for all to see- I would bet Sage at the least would get a chuckle!! And I think the blink who "came back" was from an alternate universe. The only X-Man I can think of who has STAYED dead was Doug Ramsey/Warlock. A shame, as he was always one of my faves.
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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker

quote:
Originally posted by Alisttair

quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker

I didn't know Batman, Robin, Spidey and all were in Gauntylgrym....

Are they now dancing in the forest with Cattie as well??


You're not accusing the moderators of off-topic discussion are you?
Perish the though


Just a friendly jab, since Sage had been beset with a bit of off-topicsness in Ask Ed!

In truth though, It's one of the things I like best about our mods!


We are quite lovable. Or at least I am!
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The Red Walker
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker

quote:
Originally posted by Alisttair

quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker

I didn't know Batman, Robin, Spidey and all were in Gauntylgrym....

Are they now dancing in the forest with Cattie as well??


You're not accusing the moderators of off-topic discussion are you?
Perish the though


Just a friendly jab, since Sage had been beset with a bit of off-topicsness in Ask Ed!

In truth though, It's one of the things I like best about our mods!


We are quite lovable. Or at least I am!


yeah....Sage has a note in his To-Do Vortex that reads "Be quite Lovable", but he hasn't got around to it yet!
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker

quote:
Originally posted by Alisttair

quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker

I didn't know Batman, Robin, Spidey and all were in Gauntylgrym....

Are they now dancing in the forest with Cattie as well??


You're not accusing the moderators of off-topic discussion are you?
Perish the though


Just a friendly jab, since Sage had been beset with a bit of off-topicsness in Ask Ed!

In truth though, It's one of the things I like best about our mods!


We are quite lovable. Or at least I am!


That's cause your stuffed and fluffy and all that.
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Alystra Illianniis
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Hee-hee. He makes a great gift for kids!!
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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
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Hee-hee. He makes a great gift for kids!!


Heh. I do get along with kids rather well... Which is good, since I've got one en route!
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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker

quote:
Originally posted by Alisttair

quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker

I didn't know Batman, Robin, Spidey and all were in Gauntylgrym....

Are they now dancing in the forest with Cattie as well??


You're not accusing the moderators of off-topic discussion are you?
Perish the though


Just a friendly jab, since Sage had been beset with a bit of off-topicsness in Ask Ed!

In truth though, It's one of the things I like best about our mods!
We love you too!

And it seems to be a condition that affected a lot of my online these last few days. I don't know where its come from.
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quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker

quote:
Originally posted by Alisttair

quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker

I didn't know Batman, Robin, Spidey and all were in Gauntylgrym....

Are they now dancing in the forest with Cattie as well??


You're not accusing the moderators of off-topic discussion are you?
Perish the though


Just a friendly jab, since Sage had been beset with a bit of off-topicsness in Ask Ed!

In truth though, It's one of the things I like best about our mods!


We are quite lovable. Or at least I am!


yeah....Sage has a note in his To-Do Vortex that reads "Be quite Lovable", but he hasn't got around to it yet!
Actually, the Lady K penned that. She even made Post-It! notes and placed them around the walls of my study/library.
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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker

quote:
Originally posted by Alisttair

quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker

I didn't know Batman, Robin, Spidey and all were in Gauntylgrym....

Are they now dancing in the forest with Cattie as well??


You're not accusing the moderators of off-topic discussion are you?
Perish the though


Just a friendly jab, since Sage had been beset with a bit of off-topicsness in Ask Ed!

In truth though, It's one of the things I like best about our mods!


We are quite lovable. Or at least I am!


yeah....Sage has a note in his To-Do Vortex that reads "Be quite Lovable", but he hasn't got around to it yet!
Actually, the Lady K penned that. She even made Post-It! notes and placed them around the walls of my study/library.


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That has a nice ring to it!
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quote:
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That has a nice ring to it!
Sure, I'm lovable. What is there about me that isn't?
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Ah, and so MODEST, too! LOL!!
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The Sage
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And just a tiny bit unsufferable
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Is it me or does Wulfgars story seem eerily similar to Conan's.
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Eh. There are similarities but that's a given considering that Conan is the codifier for the modern perception of the barbarian hero. I don't see many direct parallels between them.
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