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                       Posted - 20 Jan 2011 :  06:42:53
                        
                        
                 
                        
                      
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                      |  As the saying goes, no one stays dead in comics except Uncle Ben. | 
                     
                    
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                      |  Not true! Even he "came back"!! There was an arc with a future Spider-Man and his daughter who became the "new" hobgoblin of that time and came back to change history and write her father out of existence by keeping Ben from getting killed in an alternate universe, and brought him back to the 616 one. Fubared the time-line of both Earths. Long story short, Ben was "resurrected".... | 
                     
                    
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                       quote: Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis
  Sage, I'm shocked! You didn't read that arc? It WAS pretty weird. And there was a really disturbing ending to it, too....
 
  Oh, I read it. ['Twas from the short-lived Sensational Spider-Man series, wasn't it?] I was just commenting on the fact that Marvel can still accomplish weird Spidey-tales in the 00's as well.   | 
                     
                    
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                       quote: Originally posted by Chosen of Asmodeus
  As the saying goes, no one stays dead in comics except Uncle Ben.
 
  
  And Blink. Her death was entirely off-screen, we never had a body, she was just gone. And yet, despite people begging Marvel to bring her back, they refused. Even normal humans have come back from the dead in the Marvel universe, but not a mutant whose death was simply disappearing out of existence. That was one of the things that turned me against the X-books. | 
                     
                    
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                       The death of Robin - ah yes - my brother had that comic. I never could make myself try and read it. The cover and the title spoiled the ending for me   | 
                     
                    
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                       quote: Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
 
 quote: Originally posted by Chosen of Asmodeus
  As the saying goes, no one stays dead in comics except Uncle Ben.
 
  
  And Blink. Her death was entirely off-screen, we never had a body, she was just gone. And yet, despite people begging Marvel to bring her back, they refused. Even normal humans have come back from the dead in the Marvel universe, but not a mutant whose death was simply disappearing out of existence. That was one of the things that turned me against the X-books.
 
  Errr... actually, I think Blink did make a comeback -- though, as part of the "Exiles," if I'm remembering things correctly. | 
                     
                    
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                       quote: Originally posted by The Sage
 
 quote: Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
 
 quote: Originally posted by Chosen of Asmodeus
  As the saying goes, no one stays dead in comics except Uncle Ben.
 
  
  And Blink. Her death was entirely off-screen, we never had a body, she was just gone. And yet, despite people begging Marvel to bring her back, they refused. Even normal humans have come back from the dead in the Marvel universe, but not a mutant whose death was simply disappearing out of existence. That was one of the things that turned me against the X-books.
 
  Errr... actually, I think Blink did make a comeback -- though, as part of the "Exiles," if I'm remembering things correctly.
 
  
  I know she was around in the Age of Apocalypse, but she wasn't one of the ones that flipped back to the main universe. If they have finally brought her back, it was years after I quit reading Marvel in disgust over various things in the X-books -- which included their then-adamant refusal to bring her back. Her death was the perfect obscure death -- in fact, she just disappeared; her death was only confirmed in the letters in the back of the comics.
  That was what irked me: she was the perfect candidate to bring back (going by the "no body, no death" rule), people were asking for her to come back, but the Marvel folks instead preferred to bring back -- often within months -- every other person who had died in the Marvel universe. Instead of the Pearly Gates, Marvel had a Pearly Revolving Door -- but for someone whose death we never saw, it was only a one-way door. | 
                     
                    
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                      |  I'll have to check up on this, but I think it had to do with "how" she disappeared that eventually lead to her return with the Exiles. Possibly Phalanx-related? Hmmm. Must look into that. | 
                     
                    
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                       I didn't know Batman, Robin, Spidey and all were in Gauntylgrym....
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                       quote: Originally posted by The Red Walker
  I didn't know Batman, Robin, Spidey and all were in Gauntylgrym....
  Are they now dancing in the forest with Cattie as well??   
 
  
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                       quote: Originally posted by Alisttair
 
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  I didn't know Batman, Robin, Spidey and all were in Gauntylgrym....
  Are they now dancing in the forest with Cattie as well??   
 
  
  You're not accusing the moderators of off-topic discussion are you?   Perish the though  
 
  
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                      |  Agreed. As as a matter of fact, I wrote a tale wherein Spidey did indeed visit the Realms- and teamed with Drizzt, no less! (He was in the black suit, FYI- you can well imagine what Drizzt must have thought of that.... Add in the obligatory LotR comments from Pete, and it was a fun romp to write!!) I really MUST find that and post it here for all to see- I would bet Sage at the least would get a chuckle!! And I think the blink who "came back" was from an alternate universe. The only X-Man I can think of who has STAYED dead was Doug Ramsey/Warlock. A shame, as he was always one of my faves. | 
                     
                    
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                       quote: Originally posted by The Red Walker
 
 quote: Originally posted by Alisttair
 
 quote: Originally posted by The Red Walker
  I didn't know Batman, Robin, Spidey and all were in Gauntylgrym....
  Are they now dancing in the forest with Cattie as well??   
 
  
  You're not accusing the moderators of off-topic discussion are you?   Perish the though  
 
  
   Just a friendly jab, since Sage had been beset with a bit of off-topicsness in Ask Ed!
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                       quote: Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
 
 quote: Originally posted by The Red Walker
 
 quote: Originally posted by Alisttair
 
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  I didn't know Batman, Robin, Spidey and all were in Gauntylgrym....
  Are they now dancing in the forest with Cattie as well??   
 
  
  You're not accusing the moderators of off-topic discussion are you?   Perish the though  
 
  
   Just a friendly jab, since Sage had been beset with a bit of off-topicsness in Ask Ed!
  In truth though, It's one of the things I like best about our mods! 
 
  
  We are quite lovable. Or at least I am!    
 
  
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                       quote: Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
 
 quote: Originally posted by The Red Walker
 
 quote: Originally posted by Alisttair
 
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  I didn't know Batman, Robin, Spidey and all were in Gauntylgrym....
  Are they now dancing in the forest with Cattie as well??   
 
  
  You're not accusing the moderators of off-topic discussion are you?   Perish the though  
 
  
   Just a friendly jab, since Sage had been beset with a bit of off-topicsness in Ask Ed!
  In truth though, It's one of the things I like best about our mods! 
 
  
  We are quite lovable. Or at least I am!    
 
  
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                       quote: Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis
  Hee-hee. He makes a great gift for kids!!
 
  
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                       quote: Originally posted by The Red Walker
 
 quote: Originally posted by Alisttair
 
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  I didn't know Batman, Robin, Spidey and all were in Gauntylgrym....
  Are they now dancing in the forest with Cattie as well??   
 
  
  You're not accusing the moderators of off-topic discussion are you?   Perish the though  
 
  
   Just a friendly jab, since Sage had been beset with a bit of off-topicsness in Ask Ed!
  In truth though, It's one of the things I like best about our mods! 
 
  We love you too!  
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                       quote: Originally posted by The Red Walker
 
 quote: Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
 
 quote: Originally posted by The Red Walker
 
 quote: Originally posted by Alisttair
 
 quote: Originally posted by The Red Walker
  I didn't know Batman, Robin, Spidey and all were in Gauntylgrym....
  Are they now dancing in the forest with Cattie as well??   
 
  
  You're not accusing the moderators of off-topic discussion are you?   Perish the though  
 
  
   Just a friendly jab, since Sage had been beset with a bit of off-topicsness in Ask Ed!
  In truth though, It's one of the things I like best about our mods! 
 
  
  We are quite lovable. Or at least I am!    
 
  
  yeah....Sage has a note in his To-Do Vortex that reads "Be quite Lovable", but he hasn't got around to it yet! 
 
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                       quote: Originally posted by The Sage
 
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 quote: Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
 
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  I didn't know Batman, Robin, Spidey and all were in Gauntylgrym....
  Are they now dancing in the forest with Cattie as well??   
 
  
  You're not accusing the moderators of off-topic discussion are you?   Perish the though  
 
  
   Just a friendly jab, since Sage had been beset with a bit of off-topicsness in Ask Ed!
  In truth though, It's one of the things I like best about our mods! 
 
  
  We are quite lovable. Or at least I am!    
 
  
  yeah....Sage has a note in his To-Do Vortex that reads "Be quite Lovable", but he hasn't got around to it yet! 
 
  Actually, the Lady K penned that. She even made Post-It! notes and placed them around the walls of my study/library.  
 
  
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                       Is it me or does Wulfgars story seem eerily similar to Conan's.
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                      |  Eh. There are similarities but that's a given considering that Conan is the codifier for the modern perception of the barbarian hero. I don't see many direct parallels between them. | 
                     
                    
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