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Drizztsmanchild
Learned Scribe
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 Posted - 23 Jan 2011 : 09:28:46
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Well a few that struck me:
1. Both were in servitude their early years...different types and timeframes but still servitude.
2. Both ended up forming a kingdom.
3. Both have had same experience with their first encounter with a camel. ;-) |
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Drizztsmanchild
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 23 Jan 2011 : 09:30:54
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| Correction to #2: both became a king. I probably shouldn't consider the Barbarians of Icewind Dale as a kingdom...or can I? |
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Chosen of Asmodeus
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 23 Jan 2011 : 09:56:54
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Movie Conan was in servitude in his early years. In the stories, Conan wasn't a slave. He was simply an exceptional member of his barbarian tribe who took to wanderlust in his mid teens.
Conan also stayed King after he took the crown. Wulfgar gave it up after a week.
The bit about the camel was probably a direct reference, though. As I said, Conan is the definition of the barbarian architype. I doubt seriously Bob wasn't aware of this, and probably put a few intentional throw backs, especially given that he was writing these stories less than a decade after the movies were released.
Conan was also a considerably less heroic character by the modern definition of the word; he was far more ruthless and brutal, and was usually pursuing selfish motivations. |
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Lord raven
Acolyte
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Posted - 02 Feb 2013 : 13:34:37
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| Wulfgar's death is in a short story. In To Legend He Goes. Yes he dies fighting yes he has kids . |
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Thauranil
Master of Realmslore
India
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Posted - 02 Feb 2013 : 13:46:52
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| Well thats the way he would have wanted to go. In what novel or anthology can you find this story story ? |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
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Posted - 02 Feb 2013 : 16:21:50
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I always thought RAS paid homage to the oft-wished for 'Conan meets Elric' (of Melnibonea) fantasy fanboi dream-team. He basically took five iconic fantasy characters and glued them all together in one party (Conan, Elric, Bilbo, 'damsel in distress' (who turns out to be quite a tough cookie in her right), and Thorin Oakensheld (displaced Dwarven King who's kingdom was stolen by a dragon).
Cattie-Brie is more a stereotype (Princess Leia, Fiona, etc) then a true homage, but the rest of them are barely re-imagined clones.
The fact that he took a stereotypical cast of characters, wishy-washy plots, bad naming conventions (when not stolen from the Greek, were jokes - Regis and Catti-Brie?) and turned them into one of the most lucrative of series in the genre just shows you how great a writer he is.
Imagine what he could have accomplished had he a little bit of imagination.  |
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BEAST
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 02 Feb 2013 : 18:35:33
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quote:
Originally posted by Thauranil
Well thats the way he would have wanted to go. In what novel or anthology can you find this story story ?
The Legend of Drizzt Anthology: The Collected Stories.
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CorellonsDevout
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 02 Feb 2013 : 22:41:39
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| Maybe people already answered this, but there is a short story about Wulfgar's death, and he ends up in that pocket dimension (can never remember then name) with Catti and the others. |
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jordanz
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 02 Feb 2013 : 23:49:31
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Originally posted by CorellonsDevout
Maybe people already answered this, but there is a short story about Wulfgar's death, and he ends up in that pocket dimension (can never remember then name) with Catti and the others.
Written by RA Salvatore? How'd he die? |
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CorellonsDevout
Great Reader
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Posted - 03 Feb 2013 : 00:35:25
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Yes, in his [i]Collected Drizzt Stories Anthology[/i[. It's the last story in there. He essentially dies of old age, having led a full life as a warrior of his tribe. He'd carved out quite a name for himself.  . But, instead of going to the Halls of Tempus, he finds himself in the pocket dimension with the other Companions of the Hall. It basically ends with him being really surprised. |
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Euranna
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 03 Feb 2013 : 02:04:40
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There was also an awesome fight just prior to his death to protect his tribe. His death was noble.
And he was confused as I am sure the other fiesty friend of Drizzt was as well. |
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CorellonsDevout
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 05 Feb 2013 : 04:59:32
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| That's right. I knew there was a battle, but I couldn't remember if Wulfgar was directly involved or not (then again, why wouldn't he be?) |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
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Posted - 05 Feb 2013 : 13:08:30
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So it was a RAS story and you weren't sure if there was a 'big fight scene'? 
I didn't even read the story and I could have told you there was. |
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jordanz
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 05 Feb 2013 : 16:24:38
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Originally posted by Markustay
So it was a RAS story and you weren't sure if there was a 'big fight scene'?
I didn't even read the story and I could have told you there was.
Did Wulgar leave any notable descendants? I assume his tribe is still in possession of Aegis Fang? |
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BEAST
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 05 Feb 2013 : 20:39:54
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Originally posted by jordanz
Did Wulgar leave any notable descendants? I assume his tribe is still in possession of Aegis Fang?
Aye; at the time of the short story "To Legend He Goes", which I estimate to be about 1437 DR, in early winter, Wulfgar is said to have had four sons and daughters (three surviving), nine grandchildren, and four great-grandchildren.
On his deathbed, Elder Wulfgar bequeaths the warhammer to the tribe and its greatest warrior, who is alleged to be his own son, named Bruenorson. A small group of barbarian leaders agrees with this decision at his side, takes the hammer, and leaves his fallen body to be consumed by the Icewind Dale winter.
Bruenorson should be getting along pretty well in age, himself, in 4E/5E. |
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CorellonsDevout
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 05 Feb 2013 : 22:31:26
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Originally posted by Markustay
So it was a RAS story and you weren't sure if there was a 'big fight scene'?
I didn't even read the story and I could have told you there was.
Like I said, I knew there was a battle scene, I just wasn't sure if it was Wulfgar, but then, again, like I said, why wouldn't there be? I seem to remember there was a younger barbarian, and he was like, a great admirer of Wulfgar's. It's not that I doubted there a fight scene, it was whether or not Wulf was involved (he was ancient by that time, after all). |
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Mirtek
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 05 Feb 2013 : 23:45:01
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I really liked the story of his death except for the very last part where he ended up after death.
He wanted to go to the halls of Tempus, Tempus would have surely wanted to claim such a warrior soul so who dared to steal him away from Warrior's Rest? Did help that Wulfgars last act in the story (Spoiler, highlight to read): was to scream in horror when he realized that he wasn't in Tempus' realm |
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Drakul
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Wulfgar question -GUANTLGRYM SPOILER
