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Ashe Ravenheart
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 Posted - 29 Jul 2011 : 13:48:24
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| Actually, it was the same line as to why Smallville had Oliver Queen/Green Arrow instead of Bruce Wayne/Batman. |
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Dennis
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Posted - 30 Jul 2011 : 02:08:04
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Actually, it was the same line as to why Smallville had Oliver Queen/Green Arrow instead of Bruce Wayne/Batman.
Because Batman can have his own series, and probably keep it on air longer than Supe. I'm not defending DC, however, I understand where they're coming from...
After the success of The Dark Knight, I was surprised they didn't give Batman his own TV series... But most probably they're planning to. |
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Dennis
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Posted - 01 Aug 2011 : 08:17:54
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When exactly did Doctor Strange join the Avengers? |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 01 Aug 2011 : 08:34:57
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When exactly did Doctor Strange join the Avengers?
He was a sometime reserve Avenger in the pre-2005 relaunch era. "Classic" Avengers, in other words. Since "Avengers Dissasembled" in 2005 however, he's worked alongside the New Avengers, and in the aftermath of Norman Osborn's "Siege of Asgard," he's counted among the reworked New Avengers team once again. [And, soon enough, he will return to a revamped Defenders team launching in a new book in December. It's unknown how this will affect his status among the New Avengers.] |
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Dennis
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Posted - 01 Aug 2011 : 08:45:23
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I heard the movie adaptations will be a 3-part series at least. But there was no mention who exactly would be added in the team after the first movie. Considering the era which the first film will be set in, is it likely that the Sorcerer Supreme will be part of the team in the second or third movie? |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 01 Aug 2011 : 15:41:35
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Originally posted by Dennis
I heard the movie adaptations will be a 3-part series at least. But there was no mention who exactly would be added in the team after the first movie. Considering the era which the first film will be set in, is it likely that the Sorcerer Supreme will be part of the team in the second or third movie?
I don't think so. Unless there's a particular dimensional-shattering mystical threat the Avengers are confronting, and that would require Earth's Sorcerer Supreme, any mundane arcane and/or low-level mystical aspects in the films will undoubtedly be handled by Thor [and, if rumours prove accurate, the Scarlet Witch].
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Dennis
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Posted - 01 Aug 2011 : 17:19:12
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Still hoping for the best. |
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Alystra Illianniis
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Posted - 02 Aug 2011 : 00:47:39
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| Oooh, Scarlet Witch in an Avengers movie?! *Drools* That would of course require Quicksilver as well. (Can't have one without the other, lol!) Might be a good tie-in to the X-Men movies with that, since they ARE magneto's kids. I'm kind of hoping that somewhere down the line they also tie Nightcrawler to Mystique, since Azazel was in the First Class movie. I've recently seen the Spider-Man trailer, and I'm on the fence. On one hand, it looks better than I hhad expected after seeing the first shots of his new suit. On the other hand, the guy just does not give me the Spidey vibe I had with Toby as the Wall-Crawler. |
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Dennis
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Posted - 02 Aug 2011 : 01:05:45
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I'd love to see the Scarlet Witch, too. With short hair. She looks wickedly sexy that way.
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Andrew Garfield looks better than Toby. He's quite cool in this trailer. |
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Alystra Illianniis
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Dennis
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Posted - 02 Aug 2011 : 01:09:43
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Are you referring to the X-Men: Evolution cartoon series? It's a bit "off" of canon Marvel for her.
Yes. Some people wouldn't notice nor care if it's off. Not everyone reads the comics. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 02 Aug 2011 : 03:51:04
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Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis
Oooh, Scarlet Witch in an Avengers movie?! *Drools* That would of course require Quicksilver as well. (Can't have one without the other, lol!)
I should point out that the speculation about the Scarlet Witch is for a potential casting in possible sequels after the 2012 Avengers film.
And I agree on the inclusion of Quicksilver as well. He's always been my favourite Avenger.  |
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Dennis
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Posted - 05 Aug 2011 : 04:08:30
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Did Thor once become an enemy of the Avengers? |
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The Sage
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Posted - 05 Aug 2011 : 06:07:26
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| Enemy may be too strong a label... but Thor has had reason to really against the Avengers from time to time -- either because of ideological/mythological issues [mainly resulting in shake-ups in relations between Earth and Asgard], or other external problems [like being controlled/manipulated by his brother]. |
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Dennis
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Posted - 05 Aug 2011 : 06:35:02
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I see. Thanks. I read a couple of articles in wiki and some other sites, and there is a mention of Thor restoring his father Odin and his brother Loki. How was he able to do that? Is it some sort of inherent godly power? |
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The Sage
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Posted - 05 Aug 2011 : 08:10:51
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I see. Thanks. I read a couple of articles in wiki and some other sites, and there is a mention of Thor restoring his father Odin and his brother Loki. How was he able to do that? Is it some sort of inherent godly power?
This section, from Thor's entry on the Wiki, explains it far more appropriately than I ever could:-
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After breaking the Ragnarok cycle and being advised by the Odinforce that this was his father's plan, Thor entered into hibernation. With his fate unknown to the Avengers, he was believed to be missing in action.
Thor's hammer Mjolnir was eventually found on Earth and put under U.S. Army protection. When the supervillain Doctor Doom escaped from Hell, Mjolnir fell through the dimensional plane, and Doom tried unsuccessfully to lift the hammer. Mjolnir then came into the possession of a man carrying a bag with the initials "D.B". Donald Blake, upon touching the hammer Mjolnir, was transported to the void of non-existence in which Thor resided. Blake explained that when Odin originally removed the Blake persona from Thor, Blake was consigned to the void that Thor now inhabited. With Odin's death, however, Blake was suddenly restored into being in New York City. Blake convinced Thor to wield Mjolnir once more, return to Earth, and renew the dual identity with Blake. Blake also revealed that Thor's fellow Asgardians still lived in the minds and hearts of mortals and only needed to be found and released.
Thor rebuilt Asgard over the state of Oklahoma, learned of the events of the Civil War and was angered that Tony Stark and others used his DNA to create a Thor clone in a battle between pro and anti-registration heroes. He battled Stark, easily defeating him. Thor accepted an offer by Stark for Asgard to be considered a foreign embassy with diplomatic immunity granted to its inhabitants. Thor searched for his fellow Asgardians, and restored each with the exception of Sif, who had been trapped in the body of an old woman dying of cancer, her real form stolen by Loki. The thunder god eventually searched for his father, and located Odin in part of the afterlife, waging constant battle with the fire demon Surtur. Odin advised his son that Thor must lead the Asgardians.
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Dennis
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Posted - 05 Aug 2011 : 09:43:02
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Yes, I read that part before I posted my query. How can Thor walk in and out of the "afterlife" when his father could not? Is it an inherent ability? Or a new power bestowed by his repaired hammer---perhaps the Sorcerer Supreme did something to it when he repaired it, granting it more abilities? |
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Dennis
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Posted - 05 Aug 2011 : 09:58:41
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Has anyone watched this TRAILER? Or worse, watched the movie? I thought it was fan made. The only thing that's good about it is that they managed to pick a good-looking actor to play Thor. Everything else is...well, not to sugar-coat, plain crap. |
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Alystra Illianniis
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The Sage
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Posted - 06 Aug 2011 : 02:01:23
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Originally posted by Dennis
Yes, I read that part before I posted my query. How can Thor walk in and out of the "afterlife" when his father could not? Is it an inherent ability? Or a new power bestowed by his repaired hammer---perhaps the Sorcerer Supreme did something to it when he repaired it, granting it more abilities?
It's difficult to explain in words, because it was an element so integral to Thor's tale during the "Avengers Disassembled" storyline.
I'll re-read the old issues and try to summarise the most pertinent details for you here.
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Chosen of Asmodeus
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Posted - 06 Aug 2011 : 02:05:30
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| Saw that on netflix. Well, didn't actually watch it, but saw it on the menu. It's a mockbuster; one of those films they make on the cheap to cash in on something similar coming out on the bigscreen, like all those movies on the scyfy channel on saturday nights. That is the problem with making fiction based off mythology; you can't exactly copyright it. |
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Dennis
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Posted - 07 Aug 2011 : 14:02:48
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Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis
I dunno, looks like it could be entertaining for a few laughs. Well, snickering, mostly. And what's with the hammer? It looks like some sort of giant Lego block....
Indeed. And the hammer in this poster is worse.
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Originally posted by Dennis
Yes, I read that part before I posted my query. How can Thor walk in and out of the "afterlife" when his father could not? Is it an inherent ability? Or a new power bestowed by his repaired hammer---perhaps the Sorcerer Supreme did something to it when he repaired it, granting it more abilities?
It's difficult to explain in words, because it was an element so integral to Thor's tale during the "Avengers Disassembled" storyline.
I'll re-read the old issues and try to summarise the most pertinent details for you here.
It's a bit confusing. I understand that the Asgardians aren't exactly immortals. Their longevity is due to the golden apples that they eat. So they die and go to the afterlife. But how can one walk in and out of the afterlife when he's alive? Astral projection, perhaps?
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Saw that on netflix. Well, didn't actually watch it, but saw it on the menu. It's a mockbuster; one of those films they make on the cheap to cash in on something similar coming out on the bigscreen, like all those movies on the scyfy channel on saturday nights. That is the problem with making fiction based off mythology; you can't exactly copyright it.
And the fact that they keep on making those kinds of movies means there are quite a number of people who watch them. Now, that's really strange. I can't even imagine myself sitting for more than a minute watching that sorry excuse for a movie. Okay, so maybe I would---that is, in the '80s.
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I really think DC should really make a Justice League movie soon. And after that, people would surely die to see a JL/Avengers crossover on the big screen. If DC and Marvel could do it in the comics, why not in the movies, right? |
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Thelonius
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Posted - 07 Aug 2011 : 15:51:17
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Originally posted by Dennis
Has anyone watched this TRAILER? Or worse, watched the movie? I thought it was fan made. The only thing that's good about it is that they managed to pick a good-looking actor to play Thor. Everything else is...well, not to sugar-coat, plain crap.
 My face after seeing it, for a moment I thought it was a Thor as the nordich god; not the marvel superhero, movie; but then I saw people with machine guns. Haven't seen it, and I expect not doing but seeing Richard Grieco is far more that what I can stand, still remember his character in Night at the Roxbury... BTW that hammer is awful... |
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Chosen of Asmodeus
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Posted - 08 Aug 2011 : 00:50:07
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And the fact that they keep on making those kinds of movies means there are quite a number of people who watch them. Now, that's really strange. I can't even imagine myself sitting for more than a minute watching that sorry excuse for a movie. Okay, so maybe I would---that is, in the '80s.
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I really think DC should really make a Justice League movie soon. And after that, people would surely die to see a JL/Avengers crossover on the big screen. If DC and Marvel could do it in the comics, why not in the movies, right?
Some of those movies work on a so bad it's good level. Hell, some of them are half-decent movies in their own right, they just suffer from a low special effects budget. They're also niche movies; you watch a big movie from one genre, you want something "like" it, here's something else to add to your collection. Granted the vast majority are absolutely horrible, but if nothing else they're paying gigs for low-end actors. Anything that's an alternative to porn can't be all bad.
As for the JL movie; they very nearly made one a few years ago. Had a cast attached and were a month away from filming when it fell through. They're going to try again, but I wouldn't use the word "soon" in relation to it. They're taking the marvel approach with individual superhero movies that will tie into the JL movie; for instance they're rebooting the batman series after Dark Knight Rises for that purpose.
Now then. One thing I am *really* hoping for the avengers movie is that they treat the Hulk like an actual character instead of relying on Banner. Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes did it, Planet Hulk did it, and those are the best animated adaptations of the Hulk ever made. I'm tired of the "Banner's the character and the Hulk is the thing he turns into for five-ten minutes for the fight scene" mentality. |
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Alystra Illianniis
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Posted - 09 Aug 2011 : 01:14:56
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| CoA, I'll second that. I liked the old Hulk TV series, because even when he hulked out, there was still some of the character in there, like when he would go postal on some creeps, but leave the terrified by-standers alone, or even hulk out after running into some dangerous disaster, only to rescue some kid or what-not. They treated the Hulk as his own person, even if he WAS only there for the fight scenes. And some of those Sy-Fy movies really aren't too bad- there have been a few that were kind of cool, like some of the dragon-slaying flicks. The one with Dean Cain (of Lois and Clark!) was cool. |
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Chosen of Asmodeus
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Dennis
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Posted - 09 Aug 2011 : 10:27:35
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Haven't heard of that series...Does Doctor Strange make an appearance there? |
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Chosen of Asmodeus
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Posted - 09 Aug 2011 : 10:42:58
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| Not so far he hasn't. Heard he's supposed to show up in season two. |
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Dennis
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Posted - 09 Aug 2011 : 11:02:58
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A pity. I would have watched it right now. But still, I'd give it a try...sometime. What I don't like about Disney-made series is that they're too "tame." But the again, even though Japanese anime have no problem with gore and violence, they tend to be overly melodramatic as well---the very reason I didn't bother watching the Japanese anime version of Wolverine, Iron Man, and X-Men (great animation, and possibly good story, but the execution and character development are too pathetic). So I'd really like to see something that has the best of both worlds. |
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Chosen of Asmodeus
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Posted - 09 Aug 2011 : 11:26:43
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See, I was worried it'd be tame at first. But this is down right brutal. Beyond the fanservice, frequent suggestions of adult situations, and so forth, there's explicit death and occassionally horrific fates.
For instance, in the episode after that one, Kang begins invading Earth. The avengers counter by attacking his ships and destroying the parts that keep them in the present, sending them back to their future. Which no longer exists; they're explicitly erasing them from history. |
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