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Dennis
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 Posted - 04 Jul 2011 : 08:36:34
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Liam? Isn't he TOO OLD?
Oh, and I'd like to see a "dark" Sorcerer Supreme. Much like Supes's evil counterpart, Ultraman; or the dark Spidey in the movie S3. But of course, it should just be a "phase." Nothing permanent. |
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Posted - 04 Jul 2011 : 08:53:01
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He is old, not too old  And I think he could be perfectly "modded" into Strange. 
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Liam? Isn't he TOO OLD?
Oh, and I'd like to see a "dark" Sorcerer Supreme. Much like Supes's evil counterpart, Ultraman; or the dark Spidey in the movie S3. But of course, it should just be a "phase." Nothing permanent.
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Dennis
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Posted - 04 Jul 2011 : 09:36:19
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He's still TOO old. Besides, the producers will no doubt greatly consider the "handsome and sexy" factor---something Liam had said goodbye long time ago. This isn't a Jonah Hex movie, you know. |
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Lord Karsus
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Posted - 05 Jul 2011 : 05:20:35
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Dennis
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Posted - 05 Jul 2011 : 05:27:41
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I didn't watch it in the cinema. Bought and watched it at home, and got the privilege of playing it in 8X speed from the second half to end. |
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Lord Karsus
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Posted - 05 Jul 2011 : 05:33:47
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| -Lucky man. At least I didn't have to pay for it, and at least ticket prices were like $5.00 cheaper than they are now, more or less. |
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The Sage
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Posted - 05 Jul 2011 : 05:38:10
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Actually, Strange was never a "bad-ass" before becoming the SS. He was, in fact, a surgeon.
He was, however, supremely arrogant... which, I suppose, is a type of "bad-assery." Just not in the physical-combat sense.  |
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Dennis
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Posted - 05 Jul 2011 : 05:58:52
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Yup. That's exactly what I meant. Refusing to cure poor patients just because they have no money to pay for it, and stating it so blatantly with cold-hearted certainty is "bad-assery."
Incidentally, Dempsey didn't really "fight" in T3, but was badass nonetheless. So I think if he's chosen to don the SS cloak, he'd be fine conveying that particular trait of Strange. |
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Dennis
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Posted - 27 Jul 2011 : 16:29:57
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Just watched Captain America: The First Avenger. It was okay. Nothing spectacular, but worth my time and money. The plot is good, though predictable---and even that is quite expected.
A couple of questions to sages of the Marvel Universe:
I didn't clearly hear what's the shield made of, so I googled it. Here's what I found: "it was forged from an alloy of steel and vibranium, fused by an unknown catalyst." Is this kind metal vulnerable to Magneto's control? Or do all metals, alien and otherwise, "answer" to Magneto's power?
Is the Cosmic Cube's capabilities only limited to what's shown in the film---some sort of nuclear reactor, albeit a million times more powerful? Or are there more? Can it be "implanted," or a tiny part of it, in a living being's body to grant him/her/it uncanny abilities? As Ironman's heart, perhaps? |
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Ashe Ravenheart
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Posted - 27 Jul 2011 : 18:13:01
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Wikipedia to the rescue!
Cosmic Cube
As for Magneto's effect on the shield. We don't know. It's seriously never come up. Although the shield is made from a Vibranium-Steel Alloy combination (with the addition of an unknown catalyst), the Steel may not be affected by Magneto due to the strange nature of the shield's composition (Check here - Molecule Man says it's composition is stranger than even Thor's Hammer or Silver Surfer's board). |
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Dennis
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Posted - 27 Jul 2011 : 18:36:19
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Interesting. So the shield is practically invincible? Was there a weapon or mutant power that bent or deformed it? Jean's psychic blast? The Phoenix's fire? Wanda's power? Juggernaut's sheer strength? Or maybe one of Ironman's invented weapons? |
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The Sage
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Posted - 28 Jul 2011 : 02:03:40
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Originally posted by Dennis
I didn't clearly hear what's the shield made of, so I googled it. Here's what I found: "it was forged from an alloy of steel and vibranium, fused by an unknown catalyst." Is this kind metal vulnerable to Magneto's control? Or do all metals, alien and otherwise, "answer" to Magneto's power?
It really depends on what era of Avengers you're looking at.
Ashe is definitely on the mark, though. In the few times Magneto has engaged the Avengers, direct confrontation between the Master of Magnetism's powers and Cap's shield has never really been covered.
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Is the Cosmic Cube's capabilities only limited to what's shown in the film---some sort of nuclear reactor, albeit a million times more powerful? Or are there more? Can it be "implanted," or a tiny part of it, in a living being's body to grant him/her/it uncanny abilities? As Ironman's heart, perhaps?
The Cosmic Cube is one of the most inconsistently portrayed of Marvel's "reality-altering artifacts." The Wiki link does a decent job of covering the basics, but, really, a true appreciation of the Cube can only be gleaned by reading the comic books where it has featured prominently. |
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The Sage
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Posted - 28 Jul 2011 : 02:06:08
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Originally posted by Dennis
Interesting. So the shield is practically invincible? Was there a weapon or mutant power that bent or deformed it? Jean's psychic blast? The Phoenix's fire? Wanda's power? Juggernaut's sheer strength? Or maybe one of Ironman's invented weapons?
Cap's shield once managed to counter one the Hulk's massive right-arm swing-punches, so I suppose that should partially detail the extent of its defensive capability. [Granted, it was the 90's, but, still, the Hulk {separated from Banner} was thoroughly enraged, so ... ] |
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Edited by - The Sage on 28 Jul 2011 02:07:50 |
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Dennis
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Posted - 28 Jul 2011 : 02:52:32
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But in terms of strength alone, Juggernaut is stronger than Hulk, right? Even when the latter is at his most wrathful state?
How about Thor's hammer? It would have at least dented Cap's shield, right? But then again, they're "friends," so maybe we would never know?
Wasn't it strange that Magneto, upon engaging the Avengers, never had attempted to control Cap's shield? Didn't they have a chance to duel, or fight at close range? Besides, Magneto for countless times made Wolvy a toy by controlling his claws... Strange that he didn't do the same to Cap. |
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The Sage
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Posted - 28 Jul 2011 : 03:15:01
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But in terms of strength alone, Juggernaut is stronger than Hulk, right? Even when the latter is at his most wrathful state?
"Hulk is strongest there is!"
Seriously, though, I distinctly recall the Hulk beating the Juggernaut when the former was testing out as a potential Horseman of Apocalypse.
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How about Thor's hammer? It would have at least dented Cap's shield, right?
Not that I can recall, though Thor's hammer has chipped Iron Man's armour. As has Cap's shield, for that matter.
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Wasn't it strange that Magneto, upon engaging the Avengers, never had attempted to control Cap's shield? Didn't they have a chance to duel, or fight at close range? Besides, Magneto for countless times made Wolvy a toy by controlling his claws... Strange that he didn't do the same to Cap.
Well, in the times Cap and the Avengers have encountered Magneto, Cap's first weapon has always been his words. It's largely the same when they've met... a battle of words, more than a physical confrontation. And when it has come to physical blows, Cap's usually directing the Avengers in the attack.
I don't think the Wolverine comparison works in this regard... because he has a long history of grievances with Magneto. So his first inclination is almost always to attack and disregard the use of "words."
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Dennis
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Posted - 28 Jul 2011 : 03:33:04
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Diplomacy over violence...Works fine, I guess, if the other party is open to exchange of words...
Thanks, Sage. Those bits of MU lore are quite interesting.
Anyway, did Cap have, other than Red Skull, a prominent enemy prior to forming The Avengers? It's just that I find RS kinda boring in the film.
I didn't see Stan Lee doing his usual cameo...Also, there seems to be no "clip" after the credits. But then again, I didn't stay till the very end.
And oh, it was nice to see Sebastian Stan again. He was quite cool in The Covenant. Though his characters almost always end up dead. |
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The Sage
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Posted - 28 Jul 2011 : 04:09:27
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Originally posted by Dennis
Anyway, did Cap have, other than Red Skull, a prominent enemy prior to forming The Avengers? It's just that I find RS kinda boring in the film.
Well, obviously, Hitler and the Third Reich. The Hydra Organisation. Baron Zemo, too, I suppose. And a few others that were featured in the old 1940's comic strips, but which have rarely been seen since.
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I didn't see Stan Lee doing his usual cameo...Also, there seems to be no "clip" after the credits. But then again, I didn't stay till the very end.
I've been told that there is an teaser-bit for The Avengers after the credits of the Captain America film. I haven't had the chance to confirm that myself, however.
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Ashe Ravenheart
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Posted - 28 Jul 2011 : 04:39:43
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Originally posted by Dennis
I didn't see Stan Lee doing his usual cameo...Also, there seems to be no "clip" after the credits. But then again, I didn't stay till the very end.
He was the General that said "I'd thought he'd be taller." At the awards ceremony after he rescued the soldiers.
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And oh, it was nice to see Sebastian Stan again. He was quite cool in The Covenant. Though his characters almost always end up dead.
OH. MY. GOD.
You missed the BEST part of the movie. The full-on Teaser Trailer for The Avengers next year. Showing Thor, Iron Man, Banner, Black Widow, Nick Fury and Cap all together. |
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Tyrant
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Posted - 28 Jul 2011 : 04:41:55
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OH. MY. GOD.
You missed the BEST part of the movie. The full-on Teaser Trailer for The Avengers next year. Showing Thor, Iron Man, Banner, Black Widow, Nick Fury and Cap all together.
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Ashe Ravenheart
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Dennis
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Posted - 28 Jul 2011 : 04:49:29
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Anyway, did Cap have, other than Red Skull, a prominent enemy prior to forming The Avengers? It's just that I find RS kinda boring in the film.
Well, obviously, Hitler and the Third Reich. The Hydra Organisation. Baron Zemo, too, I suppose. And a few others that were featured in the old 1940's comic strips, but which have rarely been seen since.
Hitler? What did he do exactly, other than starting the war? Red Skull easily killed him the movie.
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It's okay. It's just a trailer, which we would eventually see more of soon... And I would hardly call it the BEST part of the movie. Had Dr. Strange been shown there...Now, that's a different story; I would have watched it again.
And thanks for the link. Wow. Thor is damn sexy there!  I don't know if it's the coat, but Loki doesn't look so frail in the trailer. I thought he was in Thor; must be due to the skinny physique... Is he the only villain in The Avengers movie?
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No doubt The Avengers would be a hit! The question is, will we also see The Justice League soon? Like The Avengers whose main cast each had their own solo films already, Jl's main cast--- Supe, Batman, and GL---had theirs as well. |
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Alystra Illianniis
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Posted - 28 Jul 2011 : 05:27:10
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Yes, PLEASE don't forget Hawkeye, and Loki was in it too! And yes, Stan Lee was in it as that general at the ceremony for his award. BTW, If it came to it, Cap vs Wolvie has been done, I believe, and neither has been able to damage the other's "weapon". IE- Cap's shield and Wolvie's claws don't seem to damage each other. Also, Dennis, Red Skull did not kill Hitler in the movie, in fact, he simply went rogue and ignored him altogether. He DID kill several of his agents who had been sent to check on his progress. There have indeed been other enemies of Cap, as well. Crossbones (a Hydra hit-man and lackey of Red Skull), Baron Zemo as Sage mentioned, Madame Hydra, who currently leads the organization and I believe is RS's daughter, and a few others.
As for the Cosmic Cube (it's called that for a reason ,lol!), it is FAR more than just a reactor, it's one of the few artifacts in the MU that can alter reality, like the Infinity Gauntlet. Several villains have tried to get their hands on it over the years, with predictable world-altering results. I'm more familiar with the Infinity Gauntlet (Thanos once had it, and several of the Guardians were in possession of the gems that help power it at various times) but it's safe to say that they are approximately equal in power.
My favorite part of the movie was seeing how they brought Cap into the modern world after his little "nap". I was so thrilled at the beginning when I realized it was showing him being found. To those who know his history, that was like the ultimate geek-gasm ever. Even better when he found himself in times Square and Nick Fury just sort of sauntered up to him. My only (slight) gripe was Bucky's exit- was not how it was in the comics, though it still left open the possibility for one of Cap's later "enemies"- Winter Soldier!! I'm wondering if Sharon Carter will be in the Avengers movie? |
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Dennis
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Posted - 28 Jul 2011 : 05:32:05
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That small man with a beard which Red Skull shot using a Cosmic Cube-powered gun was NOT Hitler?
I like that "waking" scene as well. Though not really my favorite. In fact, I don't think I have a favorite scene. |
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Alystra Illianniis
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Dennis
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Posted - 28 Jul 2011 : 06:04:47
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I see. I thought it was him. Looked like him, too. |
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The Sage
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Posted - 28 Jul 2011 : 06:21:28
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Hitler? What did he do exactly, other than starting the war? Red Skull easily killed him the movie.
It was really just a comic-thing, I guess. Kinda like what DC did with Superman fighting Nazis in World War II.
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No doubt The Avengers would be a hit! The question is, will we also see The Justice League soon? Like The Avengers whose main cast each had their own solo films already, Jl's main cast--- Supe, Batman, and GL---had theirs as well.
Warner Bros and DC Entertainment have been very vague about their "team-movie" plans. The current Batman trilogy [which concludes with next year's The Dark Knight Rises] is supposedly in its own "universe," according to Nolan. And, no doubt, Man of Steel, the next Superman film, will probably be a divorced-continuity take on Kal-El as well.
I don't know where Green Lantern sits in relationship to these other DC films. It hasn't really been specifically noted.
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Dennis
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Posted - 28 Jul 2011 : 06:33:25
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No doubt The Avengers would be a hit! The question is, will we also see The Justice League soon? Like The Avengers whose main cast each had their own solo films already, Jl's main cast--- Supe, Batman, and GL---had theirs as well.
Warner Bros and DC Entertainment have been very vague about their "team-movie" plans. The current Batman trilogy [which concludes with next year's The Dark Knight Rises] is supposedly in its own "universe," according to Nolan. And, no doubt, Man of Steel, the next Superman film, will probably be a divorced-continuity take on Kal-El as well.
I don't know where Green Lantern sits in relationship to these other DC films. It hasn't really been specifically noted.
Oh, I forgot about those two upcoming movies. Now that you mention it, I suppose the team-up movie will most likely be done far into the future. I don't think they'd do a team movie and the solo ones at the same time, or the same year.
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I'm not sure if everyone agrees, but I think Chris Evans is not really the perfect choice for Cap. He has the muscles, sure. But how he shows compassion, diplomacy, and all those American ideals is just off. And it doesn't help that most of his previous roles are the happy-go-lucky type: in Push, The Losers, and Fantastic 4. Not to mention he looks too young for the role of Cap. Perhaps the reason they "froze" him for 70 years in the film is to make him appear older in the Avengers movie? Besides, it would be strange for the Avengers to have a leader far younger than most of them. (With age comes experience, and with experience comes wisdom.)
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Oded Fehr is the only choice for Stephen Strange! Woo! *faint*
A fine candidate for the role, I think. And I guess that he's not as famous as the other candidates may not be a problem. Besides, Chris Hemsworth was not that well-known until he was cast as Thor. |
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Ashe Ravenheart
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Posted - 28 Jul 2011 : 13:35:17
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The villain(s) for Avengers is up to much speculation. Yes, Loki has been all but confirmed, but there's a little thing about Red Skull's holding the Cosmic Cube as it seemingly transports him to Asgard (NOT disintegration) and the constant rumor that the big fight will be the Avengers AGAINST Hulk and not with him.
And I can't believe I forgot to mention Hawkeye!
As for the DC Movies... When they did Superman Returns and the Dark Knight was king of all movies, fans were clamoring about a JLA movie. DC's response was that they were looking at a JLA movie without Supes or Batman, because they "didn't want to confuse the fans". Still the stupidest quote I've ever heard.
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Dennis
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Posted - 28 Jul 2011 : 14:30:42
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Really? That's what they said? In a way it kinda makes sense. They might be judging the two's popularity on their recent solo movies. The gross of The Dark Knight is five times bigger than Superman Returns, which speaks volumes of Batman's popularity. JL's leader is Superman, who is (arguably) less famous than Batman. Imagine how the fans would feel seeing their favorite hero answering to someone else's command. (Fortunately for me, I wouldn't have to imagine. Never was Batman's fan in the first place.)
I'm not a fan of Hulk, either. (The actor, Edward Norton, yes. But not the character.) So I don't think I'd really care whether he gets included in the Avengers or fights them.
Red Skull was transported to Asgard? Hmm...That sounds more interesting than disintegration. |
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