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Lord Karsus
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 Posted - 20 Jun 2011 : 05:43:47
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Speaking of Avengers, I really hope that before Marvel (and Disney) make an Avengers movie, they'd do a Sorcerer Supreme first, even if it would just be a stand-alone.
-They did make that direct-to-DVD origins cartoon, Dr. Strange: The Sorcerer Supreme, so who knows, maybe they will. Don't know how good it was, or if it was Ultimate Dr. Strange, or a completely different take on the 616/Ultimate origins completely, nor do I know if it did well enough for them to gauge that there's interest in the character enough for a movie. I think a live action, stand-alone would be cool, though.
-Dr. Strange is the next series I want to get into. I just finished The Incredible Hercules- which was amazing, by the way- and need to get the last two Nova graphic novels to finish that series, and Dr. Strange fits the criteria of what I'm looking for, currently. |
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Dennis
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Posted - 20 Jun 2011 : 06:01:09
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I bought the direct-to-DVD cartoon. It was great. And as I noted long ago, I prefer his spell-casting in that movie to the ones used in the comics and in that Spiderman episode where he intervened to help Spidey rescue MJ and stop Dormamu. The latter kinda annoyed me with all those "By the power of this and that..." |
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Lord Karsus
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Posted - 20 Jun 2011 : 06:10:38
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| -I like the occasional "By the power of X", because it's cool find out who these mystical entities are and how they're relevant (Cyttorak, for example) or have impacted to the Marvel Universe as a whole. |
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Dennis
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Posted - 20 Jun 2011 : 06:27:48
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'Tis okay if it's occasional. But that's hardly the case in that Spidey episode. His spell always started with "By the power of x." It would be far better if he uses an obscure, unknown language instead, something that's either totally made up, or partly Greek- or any ancient language-based. Translating spells into English often renders them boring, stripping their sense of mystery. |
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Sill Alias
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Posted - 20 Jun 2011 : 07:22:01
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In short, he had already been "rejected" before he could even hear the offer...
There are many things that made that happen. Deadpool have made a reputation on his hitman fights with many Marvel heroes. What they learned of him through these fights gets said to others. So not many groups want a schizophrenic unstable chaotic amoral trigger-happy bastard in their team. Especially Avengers. One issue shown that his craziness is akin to Bullseye's, but muuuuch deeper. Not to say that he has bad luck. The fact of his 'near immortality' does not do well to his mind too.
You know, in some old issues, his face looked fairly normal. Is it his own vision of himself? |
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The Sage
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Posted - 20 Jun 2011 : 07:27:08
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Originally posted by Lord Karsus
-Dr. Strange is the next series I want to get into. I just finished The Incredible Hercules- which was amazing, by the way- and need to get the last two Nova graphic novels to finish that series, and Dr. Strange fits the criteria of what I'm looking for, currently.
Any particular volume of Doctor Strange? He's had several series, and many limited titles and/or one-shots as well. [I only ask, because I'm something of a Strange-fan, who has only just recently completed his collection of just about every Strange-related issue and series published by Marvel.]
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The Sage
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Posted - 20 Jun 2011 : 07:28:00
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Originally posted by Dennis
I bought the direct-to-DVD cartoon. It was great. And as I noted long ago, I prefer his spell-casting in that movie to the ones used in the comics and in that Spiderman episode where he intervened to help Spidey rescue MJ and stop Dormamu. The latter kinda annoyed me with all those "By the power of this and that..."
Eh. I love the arcane mutterings. Of course, they're not as prevalent in the comic books today, as they were back in the 60's and 70's. And, honestly, I miss that.  |
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Dennis
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Posted - 20 Jun 2011 : 08:21:36
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How strong is Hal? Strength per se. It was noted that his strength comes directly from his will. But how strong could his will project physical strength? In the movie, he managed to divert falling and hurled heavy things...
Superman once lifted an entire island (Superman Returns), a sort of litmus test to the limit of his strength. Did Hal have similar "test" in the comics? |
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The Sage
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Posted - 20 Jun 2011 : 08:36:20
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How strong is Hal? Strength per se. It was noted that his strength comes directly from his will. But how strong could his will project physical strength? In the movie, he managed to divert falling and hurled heavy things...
In terms of physical strength, Hal has managed to hold his own in fisticuffs against Batman.
With respect to using his ring and personal strength however, well, he's even managed to hold his own, briefly, against Superman. So...
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Superman once lifted an entire island (Superman Returns), a sort of litmus test to the limit of his strength. Did Hal have similar "test" in the comics?
Well, a very recent example in the Green Lantern: Emerald Knights animated feature, demonstrates that a Green Lantern cannot move an average-sized planetary body on their own. It takes most of the Corps to accomplish something like that. So that helps to define a limit, of sorts, in terms of what a Green Lantern can "lift." |
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Dennis
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Posted - 20 Jun 2011 : 09:04:13
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Wow. Thanks a lot, Sage. You're definitely my official Go-To in all things DC and Marvel.
More questions, if you don't mind:
Does the ring grant its wearer immortality (protection against the ravages of aging)?
The Black guy that played GL in the JL animated series, where did he fit in the picture? Did Hal die and the ring (naturally) chose its next owner? |
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Lord Karsus
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Posted - 20 Jun 2011 : 13:47:28
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Originally posted by The Sage
Any particular volume of Doctor Strange? He's had several series, and many limited titles and/or one-shots as well. [I only ask, because I'm something of a Strange-fan, who has only just recently completed his collection of just about every Strange-related issue and series published by Marvel.
-I have nothing specific in mind, since I have no clue as to what collections there are of his series'. |
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The Sage
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Posted - 20 Jun 2011 : 15:51:10
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Does the ring grant its wearer immortality (protection against the ravages of aging)?
Not as such, but it can generate a life-supporting force-field.
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The Black guy that played GL in the JL animated series, where did he fit in the picture? Did Hal die and the ring (naturally) chose its next owner?
That's John Stewart, and the third Green Lantern of Sector 2814. Basically, Hal Jordan is the first [or, second if you count Alan Scott as the first GL from the Golden Age] Green Lantern during the Silver Age, while Guy Gardner and John Stewart are the Bronze Age Lanterns, with Kyle Rayner being the fourth and final Green Lantern in the Modern Age.
Stewart became the third GL of 2814, when both Jordan and Gardner were unable to maintain the role. Hal had retired, and Gardner had been injured. So Stewart was selected as a backup for Jordan. He later endured some personal tragedy of his own, and even lost his status as a Green Lantern after his ring was rendered powerless.
Eventually, however, his ring was restored, and Stewart, along with Gardner, Hal, and Kyle, all resumed the role of being Green Lanterns for Sector 2814.
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Alystra Illianniis
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Posted - 20 Jun 2011 : 17:58:19
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How can there be three or four? I've always wondered about that, since there is only supposed to be one for each sector.
On the matter of DP and Loki, I'm not sure of the specifics of the reveal, only that it is sort of a side-note that occasionally gets referred to in his ramblings. Then again, Loki being the trickster that he is, might have just been messing with Wade's head, too. But the irony is that it's true! As for his appearance, it changes according to the artist. some have made him look worse than others, and it has been stated that the healing factor keeps it in check, so that he is essentially always regenerating from the cancer, but also occasionally it has gotten worse when his healing factor was stressed or weakened. But then he gets better, lol! :P
I can't say much about Strange, other than that in recent issues, some of his spell-dialog has been in a gibberish-looking language, which is intended to simulate whatever ancient tongue the spells are spoken in. My area of expertise is really centered more on Spidey and the X-Men and FF. And some on the Avengers from beginning of New Avengers up to about two years ago. (The last time I was able to by comics on a regular basis.) |
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The Sage
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Posted - 20 Jun 2011 : 18:14:14
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Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis
How can there be three or four? I've always wondered about that, since there is only supposed to be one for each sector.
Well, this is one of the more inconsistent parts of the GL-mythos. These days, it's simply explained as being that the needs of Sector 2814 requires more than just one Lantern.
It's not a new concept, of coursem as the subject of more than one GL for each of the 3600 sectors of the universe, has been explored before. In fact, it's even been hinted that there are now 7200 GL actives -- supposedly, two for every Sector.
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I can't say much about Strange, other than that in recent issues, some of his spell-dialog has been in a gibberish-looking language, which is intended to simulate whatever ancient tongue the spells are spoken in.
That's largely because of Bendis' wish to put his own spin on the arcane tongue, while still deriving background lore from the old Stan Lee and Steve Ditko days. |
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Alystra Illianniis
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Dennis
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Posted - 21 Jun 2011 : 04:49:27
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Thanks, Sage. Though it may be inconsistent, I think that Sector 2814's needs demand more attention and help justifies it.
The batteries empower the ring. But where are they getting their own power supply?
Are the Guardians the only beings who can forge rings for the Green Lanters? |
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The Sage
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Posted - 21 Jun 2011 : 05:14:40
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The batteries empower the ring. But where are they getting their own power supply?
From the Central Battery on Oa.
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Are the Guardians the only beings who can forge rings for the Green Lanters?
For the Green Lanterns, yes. But each of the other various Power Rings for the other Colour -Corps/Lanterns -- like the Sinestro Corps and the Red Lanterns -- have different origins.
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Dennis
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Posted - 21 Jun 2011 : 06:08:29
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So the GLs still need to take their individual batteries to the Central Battery on OA? How long does a battery last if the GL uses it in a daily basis? What if both the battery and ring are empty? How can a GL to go OA to charge it? Do the Guardians have means of knowing, and then send out available GLs to fetch the said GL with empty battery? |
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The Sage
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Posted - 21 Jun 2011 : 07:13:36
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So the GLs still need to take their individual batteries to the Central Battery on OA? How long does a battery last if the GL uses it in a daily basis? What if both the battery and ring are empty? How can a GL to go OA to charge it? Do the Guardians have means of knowing, and then send out available GLs to fetch the said GL with empty battery?
Since I'm short on time, I'll provide you with this quote from the DC site, which describes the essential power functions of the GL rings and power batteries:-
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Originally Green Lantern power rings typically held a limited charge. In earlier appearances, they required recharging every twenty-four hours, but more recently they possess a fixed amount of regular charge: that is, the charge is good for twenty-four hours of 'typical' use, but extended or extensive use will drain the charge more quickly. Green Lantern rings typically reserve a small portion of their power for a passive force field that protects its wielder from mortal harm. In dire emergencies, that energy reserve can be tapped at the expense of said protection. Power rings are usually recharged by a Green Lantern's personal battery, which looks like an old fashioned lantern made of dark green metal. The user typically points the ring towards the lantern, and usually gives the Green Lantern oath while recharging the ring. These batteries are directly linked to the Central Power Battery on Oa and do not themselves need recharging.
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Dennis
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Posted - 29 Jun 2011 : 23:39:40
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Does Hal have any particular weakness? You know, like Kryptonite to Superman. |
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The Sage
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Posted - 30 Jun 2011 : 01:26:08
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| Depending on which era of the comics you're talking about... it's either just his personal [and very crippling fear and guilt over past issues] or the colour yellow -- which, for a time, was the result of the Parallax impurity inside the Central Power Battery on Oa. |
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Dennis
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Posted - 30 Jun 2011 : 01:53:03
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Interesting. I kinda suspected the color yellow, though. That would mean Sinestro would be difficult to beat in the sequel, if there'd be any. |
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The Sage
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Posted - 30 Jun 2011 : 03:07:03
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| There's an entire story-arc focused on that particular element in the comics:- "Sinestro Corps War." It's fairly recent too [published within the last few years], if you're interested in looking for the graphic novels that collect the individual comics in a two-volume soft-cover release. |
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Lord Karsus
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Posted - 30 Jun 2011 : 17:59:21
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-I saw the movie with my girlfriend last weekend, and...well, I found it to be fairly poor. 
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Does Hal have any particular weakness? You know, like Kryptonite to Superman.
-The color yellow. |
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Alystra Illianniis
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Posted - 01 Jul 2011 : 06:33:49
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Going back to the earlier question of strength, in the movies, at least, Supes has even literally moved the moon, and even the earth itself. He can easily tilt the Leaning Tower, close cracks in the ground, (apparently, he can fix the San Andreas by just shoving the two sides together, lol!) and has done some other literally earth-shaking stuff. He's done similar things to a lesser degree in the comics, IIRC.
And on to another topic- anyone seen Transformers 3 yet? I liked it, especially a certain line from the voice actor for Sentinel Prime, and a very brief voice bit used by Bumblebee. Both were hilarious, if you caught them. My fave part was Sam's mom's comment about the POS car- too funny!! What I DIDN'T like was Sam's new gf. Thought she was a prissy, stuck-up, snobby, Brit rich-be-otch. (Caveat- nothing against Brits in general, in fact, I once dated one, but this chick was WAAY stuffy and seemed pretty useless to me....) All wrong for him, and seriously, how did these two get together, anyway? So, according to the movie, she started dating him because he got a medal from the Pres.? Sorry, not buying it. Otherwise, the movie was good. |
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Dennis
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Posted - 04 Jul 2011 : 05:45:52
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I did, Alystra, and I liked it...Though I wouldn't give it a perfect 10, just 7. There's hardly a plot, and not a strong one at that. Rehashed from all the end-of-the-world movies.
Speaking of Transformers 3, do you guys think Patrick Dempsey would make a good Dr. Strange, judging by his performance in the said movie, coupled his role in Grey's Anatomy's? Strange used to be a badass before he took the mantle of the Sorcerer Supreme. And for those who doubt Dempsey's ability to act badass can take this as proof that indeed he can. Though of course there's hardly screen time allotted for him. What with the all robots.
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Alystra Illianniis
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Posted - 04 Jul 2011 : 06:37:35
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| Actually, Strange was never a "bad-ass" before becoming the SS. He was, in fact, a surgeon. He became the SS as part of a search for a "cure" to fix his broken hands, believing that without them, he had nothing to offer the world. Being a surgeon, that is somewhat understandable. He's never even really been portrayed in the comics as being particularly good in a fight. It's his magic that enables him to hold his own in combat with the bad guys, not any real skill at fighting. Given that, Dempey's "bad-assery" really would not come into play for the role of Strange, assuming that a) the SS movie gets made, and b) that he gets the part. The part really needs someone who is more intense emotionally, who can play pathos really well, and make a convincing magic-user. I sort of liked the guy who played Profion in the first D&D movie. Now HE would make a great Dr. Strange!!! (Say what you will, I loved that movie, in all its cheesy glory.... At least they got the dragons and beholder right! And I really loved Damodar/Profion as villains. If they had combined the concepts of the two movies, they might have actually had something.) |
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Dennis
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Posted - 04 Jul 2011 : 06:50:10
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{Shivering in disgust} That was in my buy-and-throw-right-away movie list. |
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Alystra Illianniis
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Thelonius
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Posted - 04 Jul 2011 : 07:39:10
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Really looking forward to this if this is true, Strange has been my fav "superhero", specially lately when i'm recovering my taste for marvel and superheroes in general.
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Actually, Strange was never a "bad-ass" before becoming the SS. He was, in fact, a surgeon. He became the SS as part of a search for a "cure" to fix his broken hands, believing that without them, he had nothing to offer the world. Being a surgeon, that is somewhat understandable. He's never even really been portrayed in the comics as being particularly good in a fight. It's his magic that enables him to hold his own in combat with the bad guys, not any real skill at fighting. Given that, Dempey's "bad-assery" really would not come into play for the role of Strange, assuming that a) the SS movie gets made, and b) that he gets the part. The part really needs who is more intense emotionally, who can play pathos really well, and make a convincing magic-user. I sort of liked the guy who played Profion in the first D&D movie. Now HE would make a great Dr. Strange!!! (Say what you will, I loved that movie, in all its cheesy glory.... At least they got the dragons and beholder right! And I really loved Damodar/Profion as villains. If they had combined the concepts of the two movies, they might have actually had something.)
Not like that movie was of any good to me, in fact I've seen better npc in Baldur's Gate, the ones just saying "Good day", more charismathic than the starrings in that movie. Though Jeremy Irons (Profion) did a good try in that movie. About what actor would be good as Strange, I would go for Liam Neeson.  |
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