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The Sage
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Posted - 17 Nov 2010 : 23:30:26
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quote: Originally posted by Arik
OP time ...
I never thought of the Kraken Society being at all interesting. Though I do appreciate the approach of leaving it somewhat undefined while randomly dispersing fleshy tidbits of lore throughout the novels. I am sadly a bit behind the modern trends and know virtually nothing about Aboleths beyond their monster entries.
I like the Kraken Society. They're information traffickers... there's no end to how they can be used in a campaign. |
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Ayrik
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Posted - 17 Nov 2010 : 23:31:14
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I'm a little fond of the Cult of the Dragon. Mostly because whenever they're around you can be sure an angry dragon (or angrier dracolich) is also involved. |
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The Sage
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Posted - 17 Nov 2010 : 23:34:39
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quote: Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis
My biggest beef with the Kraken Society is that they don't seem to do much besides deal in information to others. They're not much more than a bunch of wet-behind-the-ears vouyers, if ya ask me.... *snickers*
I prefer the entry for the Society in Cloak & Dagger, as it is far more informative, and elaborates greatly on just what the Krakenar are capable of. Plus, I've always been intrigued by just what Slarkrethel may have learned while he was plumbing the "depths" of lost knowledge in ruins and ancient sunken citadels. That appeals greatly to my ambitions of armchair-archaeology. |
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The Sage
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Posted - 17 Nov 2010 : 23:36:08
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quote: Originally posted by Markustay
To be honest, I would feel almost as strongly against people accepting everything I say as 'their canon', as I am about people excepting official canon as 'their canon'.
Oh, I don't take your word as direct canon. Merely as a springboard for ideas of my own.
quote: Everyone should have their own version of the Realms, based on the ideas (official or not) that they like, and that work for their group. Any lore - homebrew or otherwise - is there just to provide you with a springboard. How you take-off from there is up to you. 
Indeed. I'll note that I've spent over 20+ years building the history of my own Realms. In fact, I doubt any scribe would recognise it in places. 
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Posted - 17 Nov 2010 : 23:50:39
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The Sage
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Posted - 17 Nov 2010 : 23:55:14
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quote: Originally posted by Arik
quote: Signboard posted in Baldur's Gate I'm hiring brave and sturdy adventurers who are willing to undertake a little raid on Candlekeep. Specifically to gain entry to the High Loremaster's inner sanctum and procure as many tomes as they can carry from his sacred "Wall o' Lore". Be wary of any scribes, monks, and sages encountered within the keep, particularly the more venerated ones or the strange wooly blue guardian beast which roams the halls, for they know secrets even the gods have forgotten and can command the very cosmos to bend to their will.
Scribbled underneath, in near non-legible script...
quote: "Remain cautious, however, fellow scribe. It is said that the chambers of the Loremaster Most High is subjected to the unusual temporal-morphic effects of a phenomenon commonly referred to as 'SageTime.' This strange aspect could conceivably act as a trap or defensive mechanism for those foolish enough to enter without the proper spellkey/word."
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Posted - 18 Nov 2010 : 00:09:24
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Which brings me to a brief OT question ... monks in Candlekeep? Would they be the Monks of the Long Scroll? |
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Posted - 18 Nov 2010 : 04:37:14
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No, those are Monks of the REALLY Long Scroll in regards to Sages notes. |
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Ayrik
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Posted - 18 Nov 2010 : 07:23:16
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I'll sashay this one right back on topic with the statement that the Monks of the Long Death are a delightfully evil little organization with small numbers but a promising future in wholesale badness. That Malarky Springhill guy was a little bit too preprosterous to swallow, though. |
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Posted - 18 Nov 2010 : 08:35:36
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quote: Originally posted by The Sage
quote: Originally posted by Arik
quote: Signboard posted in Baldur's Gate I'm hiring brave and sturdy adventurers who are willing to undertake a little raid on Candlekeep. Specifically to gain entry to the High Loremaster's inner sanctum and procure as many tomes as they can carry from his sacred "Wall o' Lore". Be wary of any scribes, monks, and sages encountered within the keep, particularly the more venerated ones or the strange wooly blue guardian beast which roams the halls, for they know secrets even the gods have forgotten and can command the very cosmos to bend to their will.
Scribbled underneath, in near non-legible script...
quote: "Remain cautious, however, fellow scribe. It is said that the chambers of the Loremaster Most High is subjected to the unusual temporal-morphic effects of a phenomenon commonly referred to as 'SageTime.' This strange aspect could conceivably act as a trap or defensive mechanism for those foolish enough to enter without the proper spellkey/word."
Beneath that, carved in as if by the hasty scratches of a dagger, reads yet another message...
quote: Waste of time, went looking for [illegible] spells, just found some [illegible] list, seemed to be of things to do.
[illegible] long, it was too.
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Posted - 18 Nov 2010 : 08:57:35
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quote: Originally posted by Arik
I'll sashay this one right back on topic with the statement that the Monks of the Long Death are a delightfully evil little organization with small numbers but a promising future in wholesale badness. That Malarky Springhill guy was a little bit too preprosterous to swallow, though.
I happen to like him in The Haunted Lands. Though I didn't like that he 'suddenly' became a Red Wizard. Spy fit him better than a wizard.
I think he's vital in Richard's attempt to show a character who is in many ways opposite to Szass Tam. |
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The Sage
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Posted - 18 Nov 2010 : 09:11:24
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quote: Originally posted by Sandro
quote: Originally posted by The Sage
quote: Originally posted by Arik
quote: Signboard posted in Baldur's Gate I'm hiring brave and sturdy adventurers who are willing to undertake a little raid on Candlekeep. Specifically to gain entry to the High Loremaster's inner sanctum and procure as many tomes as they can carry from his sacred "Wall o' Lore". Be wary of any scribes, monks, and sages encountered within the keep, particularly the more venerated ones or the strange wooly blue guardian beast which roams the halls, for they know secrets even the gods have forgotten and can command the very cosmos to bend to their will.
Scribbled underneath, in near non-legible script...
quote: "Remain cautious, however, fellow scribe. It is said that the chambers of the Loremaster Most High is subjected to the unusual temporal-morphic effects of a phenomenon commonly referred to as 'SageTime.' This strange aspect could conceivably act as a trap or defensive mechanism for those foolish enough to enter without the proper spellkey/word."
Beneath that, carved in as if by the hasty scratches of a dagger, reads yet another message...
quote: Waste of time, went looking for [illegible] spells, just found some [illegible] list, seemed to be of things to do.
[illegible] long, it was too.
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Ayrik
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Posted - 18 Nov 2010 : 09:31:07
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quote: dennis I happen to like him in The Haunted Lands. Though I didn't like that he 'suddenly' became a Red Wizard. Spy fit him better than a wizard.
I think he's vital in Richard's attempt to show a character who is in many ways opposite to Szass Tam.
That's basically my only (but big) problem with Malark. He clandestinely taught himself the secrets of Red Wizardry, and developed sufficient mastery of the complicated magic and of himself to attempt a very difficult ritual ... even while superior zulkirlich Szass (with a head start of many months or perhaps even decades) was still diligently striving to achieve the über discipline needed to do this ritual himself. Malark is amazing and worldly and superbly competent, but he still ain't no Szass Tam and IMO he should have had zero chance as a new player bouncing the ball around in Szass' arena.
Agreed, Malark is designed to be the perfect spy, assassin, bodyguard, and all-round punisher minion. But not an overnight multiclassed gamebreaker ... I kept expecting his clever machinations were playing into some masterful xanatos gambit that would pawn him right into Szass's skeletal hands. Nope. (And then the novel went bitterly downhill, but that's a different issue entirely and hardly Malark's fault.) |
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Posted - 18 Nov 2010 : 09:43:23
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quote: Originally posted by Arik
quote: dennis I happen to like him in The Haunted Lands. Though I didn't like that he 'suddenly' became a Red Wizard. Spy fit him better than a wizard.
I think he's vital in Richard's attempt to show a character who is in many ways opposite to Szass Tam.
That's basically my only (but big) problem with Malark. He clandestinely taught himself the secrets of Red Wizardry, and developed sufficient mastery of the complicated magic and of himself to attempt a very difficult ritual ... even while superior zulkirlich Szass (with a head start of many months or perhaps even decades) was still diligently striving to achieve the über discipline needed to do this ritual himself. Malark is amazing and worldly and superbly competent, but he still ain't no Szass Tam and IMO he should have had zero chance as a new player bouncing the ball around in Szass' arena.
It's important to note that he's far older than Tam and his mind discipline is unlike no other. He even managed to break from Dmitra's powerful illusion during the war in the Keep of Sorrows. But then again, the transition from being a mere spy/monk to a Red Wizard was rather abrupt. And that's what I don't like about him. Richard left much to the reader's imagination. |
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Ayrik
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Posted - 18 Nov 2010 : 10:05:48
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Sounds like Malark's blood may have been spilled all over the editing room floor.
What the other Monks of the Long Death. Are there any? It's been a long time since I read that trilogy, I can't remember if Malark was the last of his kind. |
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Posted - 18 Nov 2010 : 10:31:55
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Whether there were other survivors of the MLD or not was not mentioned, I think. But I could be incorrect, as I didn't give particular attention to MLD, which I consider rather bland. |
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Posted - 18 Nov 2010 : 11:58:22
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Ah, the little gems of evilness of small organizations in the Realms are definitely worth mentioning.
I found the fatalistic philosophy of the Monks of the Long Death very intriguing: seeking a perfect death for oneself gleaned from their numerous victims is so sick and horrific. Always wondered what this perfect death would entail, but understand that they are just sick psychos who use their intellect and wisdom as an excuse for mass murder. Have yet to use them though.
I have a fondness for secret Sharran cells, especially those that have a front that uses debauchery and leisure to misdirect unwanted attention. I had a good time seeing PC's let down their guards willingly in a relaxing bathhouse. They were oblivious to the fact their memories had been wiped by the fumes wafting over the heated waters; the memories removed included the horrible acts they performed under the influence of Sharran courtesans suggestions. Only the Sharran in their midst was allowed to impart them information and subsequently sent on a secret assassination mission.
I had a secretive order of Gargauth in my Chessenta campaign as well: The Hands of Blinding Light, who were an infiltrated Gargauthan sect within a larger clergy of Lathander who managed to use the wealth of the church for their nefarious plans. Their method was seeking out positions close to power to obscure their own evil by using honeyed words, intense lies and misdirection; by standing in the bright light of the Lathanderites their own evil was effectively invisible to the public. Their members usually were heretics of the faith, disillusioned by their betters in the church hierarchy and sponsored by the filthy rich Knights of the Shield.
Besides, I like most of Fearuns evil churches: Cyric assassin cults led by strife sowing madmen, Talossan mobs led by lightning and fire wielding battle-clerics, Garagos blessed bloodpit-gladiators, Banites leading zentilar saboteurs. All very enjoyable for a DM to use and for a player to hack to pieces.
Another one not mentioned afore are the Coiled Cabal. These serpentine mages are scarily competent but luckily regionally limited to the warmer environments like the Maihr and Black Jungles of de deep south of Fearun.
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Ayrik
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Posted - 18 Nov 2010 : 16:19:25
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quote: Bladewind Ah, the little gems of evilness of small organizations in the Realms are definitely worth mentioning.
Yup. They're often overlooked and retain a certain charming "freshness".quote: I found the fatalistic philosophy of the Monks of the Long Death very intriguing: seeking a perfect death for oneself gleaned from their numerous victims is so sick and horrific.
Meh. Motivation for a somehow meaningful "proper death" (by whatever name) is ancient trope, often (though not in this instance) handled rather clumsily and given cheaply superficial treatment as a "convenient" character trait by authors. The Vikings were big on it, as were the Samurai, and the now-popularized Spartans, and innumerable fanatic militants both good and evil, from past and present. Oblivion tempts killers with hypnotic fascination. It's a steady staple for defining anti-heroes and villains, although most storytellers avoid exploring the fatalistic/nihilistic philosophical implications out of (justified) fear that their characters will be rendered utterly impotent by apathy and churning ulcers of the conscience. Even guys like Batman bite into this idea (though I hardly dare to make such a boldly generalized statement, knowing that sages of superhero lore will unhesitantly overanalyze and disseminate it).
I personally feel that the best evil characters are those described by authors who understand and are able to admit their own dark capacity for vile unwholesome thoughts. Better yet, those authors who can comprehend what it feels like to glory in the romantic shadowy dimness of a path inspired by evil as a joyful life philosophy. I love some of the books written by Paul Kemp, but I don't think I'd want to let him babysit my firstborn. 
Of course the evils of a story must touch upon the evils of the audience to really strike a resonant chord. Just as with any other work of art, it is difficult for the observer to appreciate more beauty in the piece than the artist's skill can convey.
Your other examples are compelling. I especially like your order of Gargauth, nice name with a hint of savoury dark aroma that gently rolls off the tongue. The internal divisiveness of Banesters and plotty little simpering Cyricists are readily associated with the small-evil idea, and it even fits the Zhentarim, Red Wizards, Cult of the Dragon, and other such (tired) evil organizations. |
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Markustay
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Posted - 18 Nov 2010 : 18:32:08
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I'm not big on dragons as enemies, because realistically, they are just too tough. As for dracoliches, that's just uber-overkill.
Seriously, any normal human being - or elf, dwarf, etc - facing 50+ tons of super-intelligent, fire-breathing, reptile staring them in the eye is going to lose their bowels and then pass out. People fighting dragons is preposterous, IMHO.
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Am I the only one who like Breagan D'aerth as a baddie group? I know they're not THAT bad, but they can be a fun thorn in anyone's side for any number of reasons. They've got their sneaky black fingers in LOTS of pies....
I don't consider them 'bad'. If being smart and ambitious (and mercenary) is evil, then I can say that nearly any 'group' is evil, and most especially a mercantile one (and Breagan D'aerth are merchants - their 'product' is themselves).
They are no more or less evil then any other mercenary band - they are just better-equipped and a whole lot smarter (and being from a race that makes most normal folk soil their pants doesn't hurt, either). 
As for the Krakens - like I said, they are definitely not a 'limelight' baddie group - they make for great backdrop, is all. The kinda group even the other evil groups have to watch out for (because when you buy information from them, they will most-assuredly sell THAT information to someone else).
quote: Originally posted by The Sage
quote: Originally posted by Arik
quote: Signboard posted in Baldur's Gate I'm hiring brave and sturdy adventurers who are willing to undertake a little raid on Candlekeep. Specifically to gain entry to the High Loremaster's inner sanctum and procure as many tomes as they can carry from his sacred "Wall o' Lore". Be wary of any scribes, monks, and sages encountered within the keep, particularly the more venerated ones or the strange wooly blue guardian beast which roams the halls, for they know secrets even the gods have forgotten and can command the very cosmos to bend to their will.
Scribbled underneath, in near non-legible script...
quote: "Remain cautious, however, fellow scribe. It is said that the chambers of the Loremaster Most High is subjected to the unusual temporal-morphic effects of a phenomenon commonly referred to as 'SageTime.' This strange aspect could conceivably act as a trap or defensive mechanism for those foolish enough to enter without the proper spellkey/word."
And carved into the wood beneath the sign in badly written common -
quote: Looking for gremlins and other small mischievous types to help cause unbridled chaos while humans are stupidly hacking at each other ---- Baadcôd, Fiendish Gremlin most-high
And this thread just allowed me to contemplate a new baddie for the Realms - a Shadgrym. Thats what happens when a shade procreates with a Malaugrym.
Think about it... while the Shades are trying to infiltrate and takeover much of Faerûn, they themselves could be infiltrated by others. The thought of the Malaugrym trying to seize power in Shade tickles me in ways no man of my girth should ever be tickled.  |
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Ayrik
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Posted - 18 Nov 2010 : 18:37:36
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Well (thank Denier!) at least my that anonymous tome raider's dozen-quoted signboard doesn't have any glaring typos. |
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Tyrant
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Posted - 18 Nov 2010 : 19:23:11
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quote: Originally posted by dennis
quote: Originally posted by Arik
quote: dennis I happen to like him in The Haunted Lands. Though I didn't like that he 'suddenly' became a Red Wizard. Spy fit him better than a wizard.
I think he's vital in Richard's attempt to show a character who is in many ways opposite to Szass Tam.
That's basically my only (but big) problem with Malark. He clandestinely taught himself the secrets of Red Wizardry, and developed sufficient mastery of the complicated magic and of himself to attempt a very difficult ritual ... even while superior zulkirlich Szass (with a head start of many months or perhaps even decades) was still diligently striving to achieve the über discipline needed to do this ritual himself. Malark is amazing and worldly and superbly competent, but he still ain't no Szass Tam and IMO he should have had zero chance as a new player bouncing the ball around in Szass' arena.
It's important to note that he's far older than Tam and his mind discipline is unlike no other. He even managed to break from Dmitra's powerful illusion during the war in the Keep of Sorrows. But then again, the transition from being a mere spy/monk to a Red Wizard was rather abrupt. And that's what I don't like about him. Richard left much to the reader's imagination.
Although it may not be enough time to totally master the Art, there was a pretty big time jump between books two and three (1385-1478). I would also assume that Tam had a hand in teaching him, directly or indirectly. He seemed to consider Malark a friend so I see no reason why he wouldn't help him. Nearly 100 years, the patience of an immortal coupled with the focus of a monk, and help from an archmage can go a long way towards making someone a capable wizard.
As far as the Kraken Society, where can I find information about them (or novel appearances)? I recall one of their agents in the Skullport in the first Cale trilogy but that's the only place I can recall seeing them. |
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George Krashos
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Posted - 18 Nov 2010 : 22:22:18
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The best info on the Kraken Society can be found in the very late 2E sourcebook "Cloak and Dagger".
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Tyrant
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Posted - 18 Nov 2010 : 22:31:14
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quote: Originally posted by George Krashos
The best info on the Kraken Society can be found in the very late 2E sourcebook "Cloak and Dagger".
-- George Krashos
Thanks. Is that downloadable (legally) anywhere or is that one I would need to search out a physical copy? |
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Ayrik
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Posted - 18 Nov 2010 : 22:36:31
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Not an official download. 2E lore appears often at the gnomish eBay sites and similar trading grounds, though more usually as collected sets than as individual tomes. Much Kraken Society information of dubious reliability can be scried through the mystical google orb, though painstaking research can accurately piece together their hidden secrets. |
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Posted - 18 Nov 2010 : 23:46:16
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quote: Originally posted by Arik
Not an official download. 2E lore appears often at the gnomish eBay sites and similar trading grounds, though more usually as collected sets than as individual tomes. Much Kraken Society information of dubious reliability can be scried through the mystical google orb, though painstaking research can accurately piece together their hidden secrets.
There was an official download, but it was taken down when WotC invoked the "no legally selling pdfs!" decree.
And I more often see individual books on eBay, as opposed to lots. And I check every day, too. |
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Posted - 19 Nov 2010 : 00:07:31
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quote: Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
quote: Originally posted by Arik
Not an official download. 2E lore appears often at the gnomish eBay sites and similar trading grounds, though more usually as collected sets than as individual tomes. Much Kraken Society information of dubious reliability can be scried through the mystical google orb, though painstaking research can accurately piece together their hidden secrets.
There was an official download, but it was taken down when WotC invoked the "no legally selling pdfs!" decree.
And I more often see individual books on eBay, as opposed to lots. And I check every day, too.
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Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken. The Force shall free me. -The Sith Code
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The Sage
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Posted - 19 Nov 2010 : 00:10:35
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quote: Originally posted by Markustay
quote: Originally posted by The Sage
quote: Originally posted by Arik
quote: Signboard posted in Baldur's Gate I'm hiring brave and sturdy adventurers who are willing to undertake a little raid on Candlekeep. Specifically to gain entry to the High Loremaster's inner sanctum and procure as many tomes as they can carry from his sacred "Wall o' Lore". Be wary of any scribes, monks, and sages encountered within the keep, particularly the more venerated ones or the strange wooly blue guardian beast which roams the halls, for they know secrets even the gods have forgotten and can command the very cosmos to bend to their will.
Scribbled underneath, in near non-legible script...
quote: "Remain cautious, however, fellow scribe. It is said that the chambers of the Loremaster Most High is subjected to the unusual temporal-morphic effects of a phenomenon commonly referred to as 'SageTime.' This strange aspect could conceivably act as a trap or defensive mechanism for those foolish enough to enter without the proper spellkey/word."
And carved into the wood beneath the sign in badly written common -
quote: Looking for gremlins and other small mischievous types to help cause unbridled chaos while humans are stupidly hacking at each other ---- Baadcôd, Fiendish Gremlin most-high
And this thread just allowed me to contemplate a new baddie for the Realms - a Shadgrym. Thats what happens when a shade procreates with a Malaugrym.
Think about it... while the Shades are trying to infiltrate and takeover much of Faerûn, they themselves could be infiltrated by others. The thought of the Malaugrym trying to seize power in Shade tickles me in ways no man of my girth should ever be tickled. 
That's an intriguing possibility.
Hmmm. Perhaps there had been some previous conflict between the Castle of Shadows and the Shade Enclave while it was absent from the Realms. Maybe the Malaugrym feared the Shades were too powerful, so chose infiltration instead... as a means of conquering their foe.
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The Sage
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Posted - 19 Nov 2010 : 00:11:14
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quote: Originally posted by George Krashos
The best info on the Kraken Society can be found in the very late 2E sourcebook "Cloak and Dagger".
-- George Krashos
Hmmm. I could've sworn another scribe already said that:-
quote: Originally posted by The Sage
quote: Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis
My biggest beef with the Kraken Society is that they don't seem to do much besides deal in information to others. They're not much more than a bunch of wet-behind-the-ears vouyers, if ya ask me.... *snickers*
I prefer the entry for the Society in Cloak & Dagger, as it is far more informative, and elaborates greatly on just what the Krakenar are capable of. Plus, I've always been intrigued by just what Slarkrethel may have learned while he was plumbing the "depths" of lost knowledge in ruins and ancient sunken citadels. That appeals greatly to my ambitions of armchair-archaeology.
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