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Dennis
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 Posted - 22 Oct 2010 : 01:39:41
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Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis
I always thought of him as more like an ameoba. Just keeps splitting off new ones....
 That's a good one. But most amoeba are microscopic. I don't need any microscope to see how exceedingly annoying Manshoon is. |
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Alystra Illianniis
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Dennis
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Posted - 22 Oct 2010 : 02:08:47
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Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis
True. But where do you find a jar big enough to hold all the "Cloneroaches"? Or a can of Raid strong enough to get them all? A shoe certainly won't do the job. Maybe the world's bigest roach motel? Baited with some ancient artifact?
Point taken.  In terms of 'clonability' alone, amoeba could be the best comparison. However, in terms of both 'clonability' and size, I say cockroach is, specially the Macropanesthia rhinoceros, which can reach 3.5 inches and weigh more than 30 grams. |
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Ayrik
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Posted - 22 Oct 2010 : 13:36:53
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... can reach 3.5 inches and weigh more than 30 grams.
That's about the same size as a little chocolate bar, y'know. |
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Dennis
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Posted - 22 Oct 2010 : 15:01:35
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... can reach 3.5 inches and weigh more than 30 grams.
That's about the same size as a little chocolate bar, y'know.
I know. It's just for the sake of comparison to amoeba's size. Besides, I couldn't think of a larger, more annoying insect that multiplies/clones than a cockroach. And that's Manshoon for me. |
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Ayrik
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Posted - 22 Oct 2010 : 16:24:02
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Aha  the cockroach reference is due to Manshoon's multiplying/cloning qualities. That makes sense.
I call him a cockroach because he's bloody impossible to exterminate, he can survive (even prosper) in any environment, and because he tends to frantically scuttle into the darkness whenever startled. And he's kinda icky. |
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Dennis
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Posted - 22 Oct 2010 : 16:55:02
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Aha the cockroach reference is due to Manshoon's multiplying/cloning qualities. That makes sense.
I call him a cockroach because he's bloody impossible to exterminate, he can survive (even prosper) in any environment, and because he tends to frantically scuttle into the darkness whenever startled. And he's kinda icky.
His ickiness is the least of his undesirable traits. His unparalleled recklessness, coupled with kobold-level stupidity, and his immeasurable attempts to cheat death never fail to irritate me. He's the primary reason I lost interest in some of Ed's novels – because where Ed is, the cockroach is almost always there too.
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Ayrik
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Posted - 22 Oct 2010 : 17:23:28
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| Aw, now, I think we must disagree. Manshoon's not quite that badly portrayed, and he is a scheming megalomaniac archmage after all - he invented the Zhentarim. Though yes it is true that he's been turned into a recurring incompetent worm of a villain, much as seen every weekend morning on Power Rangers. In all fairness, I personally feel even more queasy with Elminster than Manshoon, again because the character has just been too overused and overdone. At least Cloneshoon has devised a properly Karsus-like excuse to explain his continued existence, not some cheating "gift of the gods" nonsense. Elminster was a truly interesting and awesome character in earlier days, but he's been turned into a grandfather Mary-Sue, so of course his nemesis will suck as well. Just my opinions, of course. |
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Alystra Illianniis
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Ayrik
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Posted - 22 Oct 2010 : 18:43:43
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| As already mentioned, I've never liked the names Elminster and Drizzt. The characters are (or were) quite entertaining, even though their names suck. IMHO, of course. |
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Dennis
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Posted - 22 Oct 2010 : 18:45:51
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Originally posted by Arik
Aw, now, I think we must disagree. Manshoon's not quite that badly portrayed, and he is a scheming megalomaniac archmage after all - he invented the Zhentarim. Though yes it is true that he's been turned into a recurring incompetent worm of a villain, much as seen every weekend morning on Power Rangers. In all fairness, I personally feel even more queasy with Elminster than Manshoon, again because the character has just been too overused and overdone. At least Cloneshoon has devised a properly Karsus-like excuse to explain his continued existence, not some cheating "gift of the gods" nonsense. Elminster was a truly interesting and awesome character in earlier days, but he's been turned into a grandfather Mary-Sue, so of course his nemesis will suck as well. Just my opinions, of course.
I'm well aware that many here at the 'Keep like (or even adore) the cockroach, er, Manshoon. So I'm not asking you to agree with me. Just saying I can't stand him – and never will. He's my least favorite archcockroach, er, archvillain. Most of the time, the very mention of his name is more than enough for me to throw the book I'm reading.
Back to the topic: Keya sounds good, too. It's like a combination of innocence and innocence lost – a lass who first didn't know how to deal with men, and later became a temptress.
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Are there any names you guys HATE?
Drizzt. Sounds like spitting. When I first heard that name, I thought he's a funny, clownish character. |
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drkissinger1
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Posted - 22 Oct 2010 : 21:42:22
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| Cyric has always been one of my favorite names, but only if it's pronounced SEER - ick. It almost sounds like a poison or toxin to me. Fits the man nicely. Also it produces one of my favorite adjectives: Cyricist, which I pronounce SEER - a - sist. |
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Dennis
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Posted - 24 Oct 2010 : 02:04:14
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Cyric has always been one of my favorite names, but only if it's pronounced SEER - ick. It almost sounds like a poison or toxin to me. Fits the man nicely. Also it produces one of my favorite adjectives: Cyricist, which I pronounce SEER - a - sist.
I don't particularly dislike the name Cyric, and I don't like it either. But in terms of appropriateness, for some reason, or maybe just because how it sounds, it is fit for the character himself.
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Alystra Illianniis
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Dennis
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Posted - 24 Oct 2010 : 04:49:16
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Snake-sounding name? That's Szass! It can even be coined to mean King (of Snakes). So that would mean Tam is a king. King Tam. Oh no...too much coffee again...I'm blabbering.
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Alystra Illianniis
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Dennis
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Posted - 29 Oct 2010 : 00:36:26
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LOL!! Interesting. But what I meant was that Cyric's name just makes me picture a snake covered in syrup for some reason.
Pardon my misconception. Blame the coffee.
I'm reading Darkvision. And I find the name Ususi quite intriguing. I neither like nor dislike it. But its significance in the story is somewhat related to its meaning in our native language. 'Susi' in our language means 'key.' And Ususi is finding the 'keystones' to the Celestial Nadir. Perhaps the 'U' is a symbol for stone from some dead language. Mere happenstance?  |
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Ananta
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Posted - 29 Oct 2010 : 02:15:34
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Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis
LOL!! Interesting. But what I meant was that Cyric's name just makes me picture a snake covered in syrup for some reason.
Pardon my misconception. Blame the coffee.
I'm reading Darkvision. And I find the name Ususi quite intriguing. I neither like nor dislike it. But its significance in the story is somewhat related to its meaning in our native language. 'Susi' in our language means 'key.' And Ususi is finding the 'keystones' to the Celestial Nadir. Perhaps the 'U' is a symbol for stone from some dead language. Mere happenstance?
Haha, Susi in Finnish means Wolf.
And then on to my list:
Loviatar is one of the coolest names. And just an added bonus to it is that it's from Finnish mythology.
Mielikki is from Finnish mythology too, but that would have to be one of the lamest names in my opinion :x
Other cool names would be Drasek Riven, Elminster, Simbul, Ilmater, Azuth, Bane, Shar, Bahamut, Erevis Cale, Nalfein Do'Urden...
Yeah, I know. That's a lot of deities, but can't help it, their names are badass. |
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Dennis
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Posted - 29 Oct 2010 : 02:31:38
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Mielikki is from Finnish mythology too, but that would have to be one of the lamest names in my opinion :x
Agreed. It sounds like our native “may liki” which literally means “there's a crack,” and figuratively, “crazy.” |
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Alystra Illianniis
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Dennis
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Posted - 29 Oct 2010 : 05:42:55
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dennis? Where are you from? What language is that? I always thought Mielikki just sounds kinda raunchy....
Philippines. Particularly in Davao City. My native language (Cebuano, a.k.a. Bisaya) is different from our national language (Filipino). “May liki” is a combination of the two. 'May' is a Filipino word – its Cebuano equivalence is 'naay' (pronounced as nah-ay), meaning 'there is/was/are/were.' And 'liki' is definitely Cebuano, meaning 'crack.' The sentence “May liki” or even the word “liki” alone figuratively means “crazy.”
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Alystra Illianniis
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Dennis
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Posted - 29 Oct 2010 : 06:02:06
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Interesting. So it could be used as in "You're (on) crack!"? That's a similar term here in the states for the same thing.
Exactly. Perhaps with a little etymological research, I'll find out that the origin of its figurative meaning is the U.S., which significantly influences our media and our regional and national languages.
Anyway, I always find the name Shala Thaeral funny. 'Shala' is part of the lyrics of the opening song of the very first DragonBall series...'Shala; head shala...' or something like that...I don't know, to me it sounds funny. |
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Zireael
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Posted - 29 Oct 2010 : 10:27:11
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Snake-sounding name? That's Szass! It can even be coined to mean King (of Snakes). So that would mean Tam is a king. King Tam. Oh no...too much coffee again...I'm blabbering.
Snake sounding - Sseth. Zssulk Starm (y'know that yuan-ti from Skullport?)
Interesting bit about Finnish mythology.
I wonder where did the designers get the names for drow deities? |
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Dennis
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Posted - 29 Oct 2010 : 10:51:40
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Originally posted by dennis
Snake-sounding name? That's Szass! It can even be coined to mean King (of Snakes). So that would mean Tam is a king. King Tam. Oh no...too much coffee again...I'm blabbering.
Snake sounding - Sseth. Zssulk Starm (y'know that yuan-ti from Skullport?)
Interesting bit about Finnish mythology.
I wonder where did the designers get the names for drow deities?
Sseth. Being a god that resembles a snake, 'tis not a wonder.
I can't recall Zssulk Starm. Did he do something of note? |
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Ananta
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Posted - 29 Oct 2010 : 12:51:51
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Mielikki is from Finnish mythology too, but that would have to be one of the lamest names in my opinion :x
Agreed. It sounds like our native “may liki” which literally means “there's a crack,” and figuratively, “crazy.”
In Finnish, Mielikki quite literally means "Pet" (like you'd have dog as a pet). It's an old word though, not something one would use in everyday speech. |
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Dennis
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Posted - 29 Oct 2010 : 13:58:16
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Mielikki is from Finnish mythology too, but that would have to be one of the lamest names in my opinion :x
Agreed. It sounds like our native “may liki” which literally means “there's a crack,” and figuratively, “crazy.”
In Finnish, Mielikki quite literally means "Pet" (like you'd have dog as a pet). It's an old word though, not something one would use in everyday speech.
Does it mean Meilikki in Finnish mythology is a god/goddess of pets/animals? |
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Alystra Illianniis
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Posted - 30 Oct 2010 : 00:54:48
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| As a matter of fact, she is. I have the old 1tst ed book of pantheons- I forget the title off-hand- that had the Finnish pantheonin it. She is the goddess of woodlands and animals. I used the Finnish goddess of beauty and vanity(can't remember her name) as the basis for one of my homebrew deities- Vallenya, goddess of illusions, vanity, and selfish desires. She's NE, of course. That book also had Arthurian, Chinese, Babylonian, Sumerian, Native American, and several other obscure pantheons. |
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 30 Oct 2010 : 02:44:51
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As a matter of fact, she is. I have the old 1tst ed book of pantheons- I forget the title off-hand- that had the Finnish pantheonin it. She is the goddess of woodlands and animals. I used the Finnish goddess of beauty and vanity(can't remember her name) as the basis for one of my homebrew deities- Vallenya, goddess of illusions, vanity, and selfish desires. She's NE, of course. That book also had Arthurian, Chinese, Babylonian, Sumerian, Native American, and several other obscure pantheons.
Deities & Demigods. There were two versions of it. The original version had the Cthulhu and Elric pantheons included, but those were excluded from the reprint. Then the book was reprinted as Legends & Lore. |
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Alystra Illianniis
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