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Snowblood
Senior Scribe
Australia
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Posted - 25 Jul 2010 : 11:04:32
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Dear Scribes, I am looking at the original map of the Lost Kingdoms of Netheril from the old Anauroch booklet by Ed Greenwood and I see the city Phelajarama is in Asram south of Hlondath and quite near the cities of Olorin and Anauril. Now here is my conundrum....when I look at the map within Anauroch - Empire of the Shade I see that the city of Phelajarama has suddenly jumped north to be west of Hlondath and right in the middle of the desert....how did that happen????
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Saxmilian
Learned Scribe
USA
157 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jul 2010 : 16:54:54
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Dalor Darden
Great Reader
USA
4211 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jul 2010 : 17:40:06
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It happened because the maker of the new map did not reference previous material very well...
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It was a deliberate change. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 25 Jul 2010 : 17:48:47
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quote: Originally posted by Dalor Darden
It happened because the maker of the new map did not reference previous material very well...
OR
It was a deliberate change.
Considering how many times 3E lore contradicted earlier stuff, I'm inclined to favor the first theory. |
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Dalor Darden
Great Reader
USA
4211 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jul 2010 : 17:52:02
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I am too Wooly...in fact, the thing that still to this day outright angers me is that Tethyamar is sitting out in the damnable desert! I mean, come on! |
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froglegg
Learned Scribe
317 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jul 2010 : 22:11:04
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quote: Originally posted by Snowblood
Dear Scribes, I am looking at the original map of the Lost Kingdoms of Netheril from the old Anauroch booklet by Ed Greenwood and I see the city Phelajarama is in Asram south of Hlondath and quite near the cities of Olorin and Anauril. Now here is my conundrum....when I look at the map within Anauroch - Empire of the Shade I see that the city of Phelajarama has suddenly jumped north to be west of Hlondath and right in the middle of the desert....how did that happen????
Can you say opps?
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 26 Jul 2010 : 01:44:46
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In these instances, I adhere strictly to the wise words of Steven Schend when considering such mapping errors:- "Chalk it up to Sembian mapmakers or something to overlook their existence, that's all."
In other words, maybe some map-makers in the Realms, simply "guessed" or erred when placing some lesser-known locations on those different maps you refer to. |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
USA
3567 Posts |
Posted - 26 Jul 2010 : 01:54:15
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quote: Originally posted by The Sage
In these instances, I adhere strictly to the wise words of Steven Schend when considering such mapping errors:- "Chalk it up to Sembian mapmakers or something to overlook their existence, that's all."
In other words, maybe some map-makers in the Realms, simply "guessed" or erred when placing some lesser-known locations on those different maps you refer to.
I second this approach. It was not too long ago that inaccurate maps were about all that could be found here in our world! |
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Dalor Darden
Great Reader
USA
4211 Posts |
Posted - 26 Jul 2010 : 03:51:25
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There are very few maps I accept for any game now.
When a player says "but the map says we should be able to get there in two days and it is right at the mouth of the river!"
I smile and reply "If you make it back to town...you might want to have a talk with the shyster that sold you that lousy map." |
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Calmar
Acolyte
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Posted - 26 Jul 2010 : 08:14:37
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I guess that's none of those flying shadow-cities..? |
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Snowblood
Senior Scribe
Australia
388 Posts |
Posted - 26 Jul 2010 : 10:21:13
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oh I thought it might have happened when the Sharn Wall came up against Phaerimm magics.....whole mountain ranges rose up & disappeared etc....... |
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