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William of Waterdeep
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 Posted - 16 Sep 2003 : 09:05:09
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Okay,just got first book and was asking if anyone had or was reading and what they thought of it.
Thank you Arivia for your thoughts and sorry about that in wrong room, all my fault  .
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Courage isn't the lack of fear but rather believing in and doing what you know is right even though fear is present.
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Edited by - William of Waterdeep on 16 Sep 2003 09:07:39
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Bellua Aeneus Lacerta
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 17 Sep 2003 : 01:24:41
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Excellent series of books
Ivan and Pikel are favorites |
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Mystery_Man
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 17 Sep 2003 : 02:06:15
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I honestly thought that the Cleric series was better than the Drizzt series. |
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William of Waterdeep
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 17 Sep 2003 : 04:17:04
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Bellua Aeneus Lacerta said:Quote
Excellent series of books
Ivan and Pikel are favorites
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William replys:I'm glad to hear that you thought was excellent and Arivia says the same thing about Ivan and Pikel.
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Elf_Friend said:Quote
I honestly thought that the Cleric series was better than the Drizzt series.
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William replys:I am surprized to hear that Elf_Friend.I am glad its a good series and I'm sure you do think it is better but may I ask why?
I am not saying your wrong but rather just curious to what makes it better in your opinion.
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Courage isn't the lack of fear but rather believing in and doing what you know is right even though fear is present.
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Arion Elenim
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 17 Sep 2003 : 06:09:02
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And more good news.....
The Cleric Quintet is just that..5 books not 3....
They really ought to do more quintets.....they cover a lot more ground.....course, you also have to be a spectacular writer like RA Salvatore to keep one series running that long that spans such a short amount of time...
Good stuff, the Cleric Quintet....I love Danica...she rules.
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My latest Realms-based short story, about a bard, a paladin of Lathander and the letter of the law, Debts Repaid. It takes place before the "shattering" and gives the bard Arion a last gasp before he plunges into the present.http://candlekeep.com/campaign/logs/log-debts.htm |
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mikhel
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 17 Sep 2003 : 06:09:41
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| I really enjoyed the series (especially in the omnibus edition, because you can read two books before realizing it), but I confess to enjoying the Drizzt series a bit better. |
ummm...."I have nothing witty to say right now" |
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
United Kingdom
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Posted - 17 Sep 2003 : 17:52:14
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| Indeed a great series, each novel had a different flavor and feel to it. Loved it! And it gave me one of, if not "THE" most hated FR villain of all time for me...."Ghost" |
Lord Rad
"What? No, I wasn't reading your module. I was just looking at the pictures"
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Trafaldi
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 17 Sep 2003 : 20:19:01
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Salvatore brings up the characters of the quintet in the Drizzt series many times and Ivan and Pikel are in the Hunter Blades trilogy.
the newest one out in october
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Some believe there is something more after death, if you really want to find out... go kill yourself and stop pestering me. |
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William of Waterdeep
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 17 Sep 2003 : 20:42:41
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ArionElenim said:QUOTE
And more good news.....
The Cleric Quintet is just that..5 books not 3....
They really ought to do more quintets.....they cover a lot more ground.....course, you also have to be a spectacular writer like RA Salvatore to keep one series running that long that spans such a short amount of time...
Good stuff, the Cleric Quintet....I love Danica...she rules.
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William replys:
I only have the first book so far but working on the set.Glad you like
it.
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mikhel said:QUOTE
I really enjoyed the series (especially in the omnibus edition, because you can read two books before realizing it), but I confess to enjoying the Drizzt series a bit better.
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William replys:
Good,I love a set of books that I can become lost in.I am a big Drizzt
fan but I guess I should finish this set before I comment on the best.
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Rad Said:QUOTE
Indeed a great series, each novel had a different flavor and feel to it. Loved it! And it gave me one of, if not "THE" most hated FR villain of all time for me...."Ghost"
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William replys:
Haven't gotten far enough to meet "Ghost" but I shall be on the look out.Thanks,glad you loved it!I look foward to diving in for hours.I will have to admit that time has been limited and I am still in Chapter 1, "The White Squirrel's Pet" but mabye i'll get the whole set
in the next few days and have time to get lost in them. 
*Hope everyone can follow my cut and paste quote and reply*
Got the idea from Sage who uses a similar method.(saves on making multiple posts.)
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Courage isn't the lack of fear but rather believing in and doing what you know is right even though fear is present.
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Edited by - William of Waterdeep on 17 Sep 2003 20:45:15 |
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William of Waterdeep
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 19 Sep 2003 : 05:22:54
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Originally posted by Trafaldi
Salvatore brings up the characters of the quintet in the Drizzt series many times and Ivan and Pikel are in the Hunter Blades trilogy.
the newest one out in october
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I was so tired the other night that I forgot to respond to your post.
That is good to know!! Makes me look forward to other novels.
I wasn't ignoring you and your post as I said,I was falling asleep
but sorry Trafaldi you have given a good tidbit to look forward too. |
Courage isn't the lack of fear but rather believing in and doing what you know is right even though fear is present.
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Trafaldi
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 19 Sep 2003 : 16:44:59
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| yes i cant wait until october, it will be interesting to see if Ivan and Pikel meet up with Bruenor and the others. If you haven't read about Drizzt's sitiuation i am not telling you. |
Some believe there is something more after death, if you really want to find out... go kill yourself and stop pestering me. |
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William of Waterdeep
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 19 Sep 2003 : 18:37:06
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Originally posted by Trafaldi
yes i cant wait until october, it will be interesting to see if Ivan and Pikel meet up with Bruenor and the others. If you haven't read about Drizzt's sitiuation i am not telling you.
Thanks,I appreciate that!!! I want to read for myself but thanks for the hint that makes it more interesting. |
Courage isn't the lack of fear but rather believing in and doing what you know is right even though fear is present.
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William of Waterdeep
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 26 Sep 2003 : 21:55:35
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Okay book #1 is finished and I like the Drizzt series better too,but
Since the other books #2-#5 haven't arrived yet, I guess I should first wait until I have received and read them before I form an honest
opinion.I must agree with ArionElenim about Danica,I also like Cadderly.Maybe as I get into the 2nd book It will come to life more.
Never had a lot of time to just sit and read.Comments welcome,just
Please don't spoil it. |
Courage isn't the lack of fear but rather believing in and doing what you know is right even though fear is present.
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fanatic
Acolyte
Austria
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Posted - 28 Sep 2003 : 12:17:11
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i think that ivanand pikel are one of the best characters created by salvatore. it´s always amusing to read about these two chaotic dwarves. especially since pikel managed to access some druidic skills.
very amusing indeed.
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even fantasy has it´s limits
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William of Waterdeep
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 30 Sep 2003 : 00:45:45
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Good news: I finally got the rest of The Cleric Quintet series.
Bad news: I got other books too including all 3 books of The Empires Trilogy.
I am going to finish The Cleric Quintet!!! And I did like Ivan and Pikel both but Danica and Cadderly seemed more real to me.Remember
though I have only just begun so we shall see.I may agree with you
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Courage isn't the lack of fear but rather believing in and doing what you know is right even though fear is present.
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Arion Elenim
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 30 Sep 2003 : 01:05:44
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I know this will probably make me grossly unpopular around here...but...
I'm not particularly crazy about Ivan and Pikel.....I think that they are extremely cartoonish...like caracatures instead of characters.
Anyone else? |
My latest Realms-based short story, about a bard, a paladin of Lathander and the letter of the law, Debts Repaid. It takes place before the "shattering" and gives the bard Arion a last gasp before he plunges into the present.http://candlekeep.com/campaign/logs/log-debts.htm |
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William of Waterdeep
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 30 Sep 2003 : 01:29:24
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Originally posted by ArionElenim
I know this will probably make me grossly unpopular around here...but...
I'm not particularly crazy about Ivan and Pikel.....I think that they are extremely cartoonish...like caracatures instead of characters.
Anyone else?
I'm not as brave as you but thats why I couldn't really relate to them
but I was hoping they might grow on me in the next 4 books. |
Courage isn't the lack of fear but rather believing in and doing what you know is right even though fear is present.
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 30 Sep 2003 : 05:29:01
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| It really wasn't until Servant of the Shard that I could relate to Ivan and Pikel. Up until then, they just seem to be muscle and comic relief. |
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William of Waterdeep
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 30 Sep 2003 : 23:48:19
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Well,I do hope they grow on me.I don't hate them but I don't know
how to explain it.
They don't fit in or something,I just can't relate with them!! |
Courage isn't the lack of fear but rather believing in and doing what you know is right even though fear is present.
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fanatic
Acolyte
Austria
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Posted - 04 Oct 2003 : 12:42:32
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you don´t have to take them too serious, just imagine them quarreling in the eye of danger...
thats what makes them interresting.
they don´t take things too serious, but they solve their poroblems in their own way.
i like them quite much, easies up the whole story. |
even fantasy has it´s limits
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William of Waterdeep
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 04 Oct 2003 : 19:18:43
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Originally posted by fanatic
you don´t have to take them too serious, just imagine them quarreling in the eye of danger...
thats what makes them interresting.
they don´t take things too serious, but they solve their poroblems in their own way.
i like them quite much, easies up the whole story.
They remind me more of Halflings sometimes than Dwarves, especially
Pikel.But maybe I will change my opinion as the story unfolds.
I do like the overall story so far. |
Courage isn't the lack of fear but rather believing in and doing what you know is right even though fear is present.
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Acolyte
Austria
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Posted - 05 Oct 2003 : 18:06:24
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you can say that the bouldershoulder brothers are the most uncommon dwarfs around the realms.
especially pikel, with his druidic ambitions, and the somewhat unnormal mind.
well, you can´t like everybody.
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even fantasy has it´s limits
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William of Waterdeep
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 06 Oct 2003 : 04:56:05
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| That is true that you can't like everybody as well as you can't please everybody. |
Courage isn't the lack of fear but rather believing in and doing what you know is right even though fear is present.
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Acolyte
Austria
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Posted - 06 Oct 2003 : 12:03:16
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so what is the great magic of writers such as salvatore, who write on best-seller after another???
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even fantasy has it´s limits
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William of Waterdeep
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 07 Oct 2003 : 00:25:05
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Hmmmm,Can't answer for everyone but as for myself He captures the scene as well as any movie camera ever could;The world of Toril or at least some part of it is brought to life for me.
I guess the best person to answer this question is our own Bard and
good friend ArionElenim.He knows Salvatores works as well or better
than any and could probably explain on a much deeper level than I. |
Courage isn't the lack of fear but rather believing in and doing what you know is right even though fear is present.
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Arion Elenim
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 08 Oct 2003 : 15:55:18
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Sorry folks, I would have replied sooner, but (thanks to William of Waterdeep) my hugely swollen ego wouldn't fit through the door...
I think that the magic of Salvatore is originality. He has given us something that we have never seen before in the ranks of fantasy. Drizzt was born in the 80's - a time when He-Man/Conan/barbarian-esqe characters were (excuse the pun) all the rage. Drizzt fit a different model, one that has been often imitated since then, but never duplicated. Salvatore's drow are not really drow (Drizzt)...his dwarves are not really dwarves (Fredegar Rockcrusher/Quilldipper) - every character is an enigma unto their particular race - which makes Faerun a more realistic, richer world.
Secondly, the characters are deep and introspective. Salvatore wastes not one page in his descriptions - making it impossible not to feel as if you are there with the characters, as if you can smell the sewers as Entreri battles his nemesis or feel the wind on Bruenor's Climb.
I don't know - I think that it was the Cheers producer (a show of some note by a rove of traveling brigands in some OTHER realm ) that said: "The secret to success is to wake up very early, work very hard and strike oil." I think that Salvatore must simply have a knack with a pickaxe as well as with the pen. |
My latest Realms-based short story, about a bard, a paladin of Lathander and the letter of the law, Debts Repaid. It takes place before the "shattering" and gives the bard Arion a last gasp before he plunges into the present.http://candlekeep.com/campaign/logs/log-debts.htm |
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William of Waterdeep
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 09 Oct 2003 : 02:11:50
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See what I mean fanatic and he's modest too.I wasn't trying to flatter
you my Bard friend, only relaying honest observations.
I am sure most will agree with me after reading your post.
Thank you.
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Courage isn't the lack of fear but rather believing in and doing what you know is right even though fear is present.
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spikeyhairedone
Acolyte
United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 Nov 2003 : 22:34:43
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| the Cleric quintet kicks ass, it is in my top 3 series of FR novels ever. But saying that I only own about 60 of the novels. Enjoy |
Hello, Hello, what's all that shouting we'll have none of that trouble here. |
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Lina
Senior Scribe
Australia
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Posted - 22 Nov 2003 : 06:15:51
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| I haven't quite finished reading the series but I like it so far. The storyline is original, none of that recycled and spat out stuff you get when reading different novels with similar themes and plots. And the characters too are very unique which brings life to the story. (I love the bit where the bouldershoulder brothers are trying to make a trap by putting a boulder on an overhanging tree limb.) I like the humourous relief that Salvatore brings into the story through the dwarves and Druzil, otherwise it gets a bit too drab and serious for my likings. |
“Darkness beyond twilight, crimson beyond blood that flows! Buried in the flow of time. In thy great name. I pledge myself to darkness. All the fools who stand in our way shall be destroyed…by the power you and I possess! DRAGON SLAVE!!!”
"Thieves? Ah, such an ugly word... look upon them as the most honest sort of merchant."
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Lina
Senior Scribe
Australia
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Posted - 26 Nov 2003 : 10:57:28
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SPOILERS!!
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I have just finished reading the series. It's a little sad at the end how everyone dies, well almost everyone and that Danica and Cadderly's time together is shortened.
There's one thing that gets me a bit confused is that Danica doesn't turn into a vampire after she has been bitten. Sure that Danica can control her heart and be in suspended animation but her art doesn't protect her from being a vampire. I don't really know the theory behind the workings of vampirism but I do know that once a vampire takes a bit of blood from a person they inturn become a vampire (unless all the blood is drained in which they become zombies). So this is my theory and jump in if I'm wrong... if the vampire takes a bit but not all of the blood from you then the vampire transmits through the bite, enzymes or virus that turns you into one. Danica being already bitten would have the virus/enymes circulating in her system and she would eventually become a vampire. Eventhough her heart was stopped it does not protect her from becoming undead as there is nothing to stop the virus/enzymes from spreading in her body. So as in the novel, how does she not become a vampire? |
“Darkness beyond twilight, crimson beyond blood that flows! Buried in the flow of time. In thy great name. I pledge myself to darkness. All the fools who stand in our way shall be destroyed…by the power you and I possess! DRAGON SLAVE!!!”
"Thieves? Ah, such an ugly word... look upon them as the most honest sort of merchant."
-Oglar the Thieflord |
Edited by - Alaundo on 26 Nov 2003 17:14:35 |
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Alaundo
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