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Alystra Illianniis
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Posted - 23 Jun 2010 :  21:48:39  Show Profile Send Alystra Illianniis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
And have stinking cloud as a standard spell.... (You know what kind of cloud I mean, lol!!)

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Okay, now you have me picturing something funny as hell.

A Coach gets 'pulled over' by some Purple Dragons for 'reckless driving', and when they open the curtain to the back a cloud of smoke issues forth...

"Step back!" The sergeant cries, "Fell magic is afoot!"

A young, bearded noble sticks his head out the opening and says "No dude, tis simply some Sembian Silver... try some?"


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That sure gives hell o' a laughter!
I had an idea for making for one of PC's to make a habit to mix potion of healing with alcohol and from that I got a question: what effect does mixing alcohol drinks with magic potions have and are there any harmful effects like in mixing with medicaments? Is that question fitting to ask Mr. Greenwood?

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Alystra Illianniis
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Posted - 24 Jun 2010 :  18:24:30  Show Profile Send Alystra Illianniis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Certainly! I believe there were rules on that at one point, but I'll be darned if I remember where I saw them. It was inan article on alchemy in Dragon, perhaps. I seem to remember there being a nice piece on alchemic formulae and ingredients, and that might be where I saw it. It was several years ago, but I don't remember what issue #.

BTW, that was really funny, Markustay. I was sort of envisioning a "Scooby-Doo" moment, myself, lol! (You know, with the smoke rolling out of the van and Shaggy and Scooby popping up with huge sandwiches...)

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Markustay
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Ahhhh.. me thinks I have spotted a fellow Harvey Birdman, Attorney at Law fan.

Don't know which episode I liked better - the one where he defended the Scooby Gang on drug charges, or the one where Fred Flintstone was the head of the mafia.

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Alystra Illianniis
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Lol!! Not a HUGE fan of the Birdman, but yeah, it's pretty frickin hilarious sometimes! I did like the Flinstones one. And I seem to recall one with Speedbuggy? Or did I imagine that one?

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Ashe Ravenheart
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Posted - 24 Jun 2010 :  21:42:17  Show Profile Send Ashe Ravenheart a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

Ahhhh.. me thinks I have spotted a fellow Harvey Birdman, Attorney at Law fan.

Don't know which episode I liked better - the one where he defended the Scooby Gang on drug charges, or the one where Fred Flintstone was the head of the mafia.

Good Stuff.


Easy. The one where Apache Chief burned his lap with hot coffee and he could no longer 'grow'.

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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

Ahhhh.. me thinks I have spotted a fellow Harvey Birdman, Attorney at Law fan.
I now wished I'd joined the WWHBD society.

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Alystra Illianniis
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Posted - 30 Jun 2010 :  23:59:34  Show Profile Send Alystra Illianniis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Another stupid question, or several, actually. Since a drow priestess's whips are made of living snakes, could a bard use his music to charm them? Or for that matter, could they eat a wizard's familiar? (Like a rat, for example) And if it did, wouldn't it be hard to use while it was gorging on the animal? sorry, this is just some random stuff my hubby and I were discussing today.

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The Sage
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Posted - 01 Jul 2010 :  01:11:19  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis

Another stupid question, or several, actually. Since a drow priestess's whips are made of living snakes, could a bard use his music to charm them? Or for that matter, could they eat a wizard's familiar? (Like a rat, for example) And if it did, wouldn't it be hard to use while it was gorging on the animal? sorry, this is just some random stuff my hubby and I were discussing today.

I've never heard of anything like that happening in the Realmslore. But, given that an individual whip of fangs is usually attuned to a specific drow priestess [since the living serpents are, largely, an extension of her will] I'd say that any attempt to compel or charm/control them would result in an instant attack against the bard.

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Ashe Ravenheart
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Posted - 01 Jul 2010 :  01:34:50  Show Profile Send Ashe Ravenheart a Private Message  Reply with Quote
According to Shadowdale: The Scouring of the Land, a Scourge of Fangs (what they call the snake-headed whip), can be mentally instructed by the wielder to attack as separate and independent creatures, which means it uses its own statistics (abbreviated below), instead of the wielder's stats. I'm assuming that if the wielder does command them to do so, then they are affected by the bard's ability, until the wielder decides to 'turn off' the independence of the snake head.

quote:
Shadowdale, p. 152
AC: 17 (15 touch, flat 14)
hp: 11 each (5 heads)
Immune: Construct immunities
Fort: +0, Ref: +3, Will: +0


Edit: Just realized Construct Immunities means it would be immune to the bardic abilities...

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Markustay
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I forget what Story it was - probably one of the WotSQ books - the whip actually 'hunted' for the priestess. It may have been that priestess that was chasing Liriel baenre, now that i think about it...

So, obviously the whip is capable of performing like an ordinary animal, but I doubt a priestess would use it as such, and as a magical item it certainly doesn't need to eat.

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Alystra Illianniis
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Posted - 01 Jul 2010 :  17:14:41  Show Profile Send Alystra Illianniis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the answers, guys. I must've missed that part of the story! Anywho, I know they don't NEED to eat, I was just wondering if they'd be affected like a normal snake if they did- you know, going lethargic and moving slow because of the bulge, that sort of thing. And it's too bad they wouldn't be affected by bardic music- it would be amusing if they were! (Could you use a feat to affect constructs? I seem to remember something of the sort, but don't remember where I saw it...)

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Alystra Illianniis
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Another one I thought of- I know that half-dragons are immune/resistant to the element of their dragon parent, but would their own offspring have any resistance as well? What abilities/triats might carry over?

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 10 Aug 2010 :  05:14:36  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis

Another one I thought of- I know that half-dragons are immune/resistant to the element of their dragon parent, but would their own offspring have any resistance as well? What abilities/triats might carry over?



They have a tendency to be sorcerers.

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Sill Alias
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Posted - 11 Nov 2010 :  05:59:49  Show Profile  Visit Sill Alias's Homepage Send Sill Alias a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Opened this dusty scroll to write another question.

Lets say you placed something in bottle as contingency part of yourself, like nail, hair or something. Can someone to try resurrection with these?

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Alystra Illianniis
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Posted - 11 Nov 2010 :  06:48:30  Show Profile Send Alystra Illianniis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Only if it is preserved somehow, AFAIK. I think it has to be fresh for a res to work- or at least uncorrupted. And by that, I mean not rotting.

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Sill Alias
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Posted - 11 Nov 2010 :  07:12:23  Show Profile  Visit Sill Alias's Homepage Send Sill Alias a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Somehow I thought some ash of the dead person will do, but...

Anyway, new question. You shapeshifted in troll, you got the arm torn away. It regrows, but will the hand regenerate itself to make new troll? What about when the spell duration ends?

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Alystra Illianniis
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That's actually a good question. Not sure if you'd get the troll's abilities...

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Markustay
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There is a canon spell somewhere specifically designed to keep 'ingredients' fresh. Not meant for keeping one's 'parts' safe, but since it serves the same purpose I can't see why not.

Its normal use is in lieu of refrigeration in a magical world, but it is superior because it is more like suspended animation. Sorry I can't remember the name of the spell or source.

Also, don't items of holding keep things in suspense? that may work as well... not sure...

As for the troll bit, new trolls don't ordinarily grow from troll parts - only the largest part. In the Moonshaes novels someone was growing new trolls from troll fingers, but dark (deific?) magic was involved and allowed for the regenerative abilities to exceed their normal limitations. I don't remember the specifics - that was the earliest Realms series I read - but I do know that it wasn't a set of normal circumstances.

Also, AFAIK, shape-shifting does NOT give you the creature's abilities - only it's outward appearance. I believe there is a druid feat that allows you to use the creature's abilities as well.

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Lily M Green
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Okay, So I've got a group in Baldur's Gate and we need to get to Mulhorand, specifically Skuld what would be our best option? Overland, by sea? (In 3.5e) Your thoughts please learned Scribes. Thank you :)

(So this is potentially not a stupid question but it really didn't warrant a thread of it's own).

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quote:
Originally posted by Lily M Green

Okay, So I've got a group in Baldur's Gate and we need to get to Mulhorand, specifically Skuld what would be our best option? Overland, by sea? (In 3.5e) Your thoughts please learned Scribes. Thank you :)

(So this is potentially not a stupid question but it really didn't warrant a thread of it's own).



Well, this is a long, ardous and almost certainly a hazardous journey.

However, if it were me and my own band of merry adventurers, i'd probably travel overland as far as the Sea of Fallen Stars and go by boat from there. You would then have to deal with the possibility of piracy etc, but i wont go into specific encounters along the way.

Other options would include teleporting of course, but this could prove costly (either in terms of pure gold, or doing dangerous work in exchange for the spells required). Regarding teleport, you could possibly get weaker teleports done in various cities along the way, just to speed things along. But again, this could be costly, and the cheapest, fastest way to travel i think would be the route i described.

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Mordenkainen disjunction. Absolute magic destroyer. What happens if it is cast on magic beast? Deity?

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quote:
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Mordenkainen disjunction. Absolute magic destroyer. What happens if it is cast on magic beast? Deity?



I'm not 100% up on the rules, but just going from memory, I'd say that the magical beast would lose its magical abilities, at least for a time. A deity might lose it's magic, but for a much shorter time.

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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Sill Alias

Mordenkainen disjunction. Absolute magic destroyer. What happens if it is cast on magic beast? Deity?



I'm not 100% up on the rules, but just going from memory, I'd say that the magical beast would lose its magical abilities, at least for a time. A deity might lose it's magic, but for a much shorter time.

I'm going from memory as well, but I'm fairly certain this was once asked in a "Sage Advice" column in an old issue of DRAGON. Can't recall which one, though.

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Alystra Illianniis
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The spell for keeping things fresh was from 2nd ed. It's simply called preservation. Just thought I'd answer that one. As to disjunction on a magical beast, I'd have to agree with Wooly, though I'd say it probably wouldn't work on a deity.

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I wonder whether Nulathoe's Ninemen would work for the preservation of a contingency component... can't see why not, but then again, as all of a dozen mages in the Realms (if that) know the spell, it's probably not the most viable option.

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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis

Another one I thought of- I know that half-dragons are immune/resistant to the element of their dragon parent, but would their own offspring have any resistance as well? What abilities/traits might carry over?



They have a tendency to be sorcerers.



Aside from that, are there any other abilities or traits they might have? The reason I'm asking is that I have two PC's who had twins together- a half-gold dragon/moon elf mother, and the father is a drow. (The kiddies look like little half-drow with a gold sheen to the skin) I'm trying to figure out what sort of traits of the mother's side they might inherit- besides he obvious sorcerous tendency.

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quote:
Originally posted by Lily M Green

Okay, So I've got a group in Baldur's Gate and we need to get to Mulhorand, specifically Skuld what would be our best option? Overland, by sea? (In 3.5e) Your thoughts please learned Scribes. Thank you :)

(So this is potentially not a stupid question but it really didn't warrant a thread of it's own).



Just like Elfinblade, I'd recommend getting to a port on the Sea of Fallen Stars. If I had to plan this, and had a choice of transportation (non-supernatural), I'd try and catch a river boat down the Chiontar river, to Iriaebor, then from Iriaebor overland to Westgate, and try to catch a boat heading in the general direction of Skuld (you may choose to have a direct connection, or you may have them switch boats in one of the other ports on the Sea of Fallen Stars).
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quote:
Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis

Another one I thought of- I know that half-dragons are immune/resistant to the element of their dragon parent, but would their own offspring have any resistance as well? What abilities/traits might carry over?



They have a tendency to be sorcerers.



Aside from that, are there any other abilities or traits they might have? The reason I'm asking is that I have two PC's who had twins together- a half-gold dragon/moon elf mother, and the father is a drow. (The kiddies look like little half-drow with a gold sheen to the skin) I'm trying to figure out what sort of traits of the mother's side they might inherit- besides he obvious sorcerous tendency.



Not much else, really, though if you're generous, you could go thru the 3.5 book Races of the Dragon and soup them up with some of the feats and such in there.

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