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Dalor Darden
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 Posted - 25 Aug 2010 : 16:01:09
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Originally posted by capnvan
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Originally posted by Markustay
No reason why Aesperus couldn't have been Bane, is there? Perhaps he took on that name after receiving divine aid from core Bane, who set him on his path to destroy the seven lost Gods and usurp their power.
Well, Aesperus is an active, physical lich in c. 1000, 1375 and 1479DR. I suppose you could claim he's an avatar, if you'd like.
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Originally posted by Markustay
No name for that Kingdom/Empire, eh capnvan? Thought I saw it somewhere... I will have to look around. Seems reasonable that that was the first human nation in the region, the one that took sides with the 'Dark Alliance', who were later scattered and formed the various (evil) city-states around the Moonsea.
It may have been simply Thentia or Thentur. Don't recall at the moment. I do believe that all indications were that Aesperus was simply a powerful wielder of magic who used his power to dominate the region around 1000. Nothing there to suggest anything related to really anything else, let alone remnants of an earlier civilization.
YMMV, of course.
I'm not a fan of the avatar theory either...however, it would not be unusual for Bane to possess someone as he has done it many times before.
He may have even learned the idea/ability from Tyranthraxus when The Three forced T's vassalage to Bane. |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
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Posted - 29 Aug 2010 : 22:02:22
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Possession is a decent explanation, except that I was trying to get-at that Aesperus was Bane's pre-godhood name, which obviously does't work.
HOWEVER, saying some mortal half-Orc (Bane just doesn't look human) controlled a kingdom even further back then Thentur is a possibility. Aesperus may have simply rebuilt what Bane, Myrkul, and Baal abandoned when they ascended.
Hey Dalor, what was that name you found for that other kingdom in the area? What was the time-frame on that?
I think I'm getting an idea for a piece of lore that is almost entirely homebrew, yet will knit-together quite a bit more. It may be time for a pre-Moonsea map of the North West. I'm going to need all my books for that one - there was another name for the Moonsea that the Elves used - it could have been a name for a smaller, pre-fall body of water in that region. That will also explain some of the Gur migrations, which shouldn't have been so easy considering that Vassa was beneath ice at that time. If the Moonsea was the sight of a powerful evil kingdom before becoming a sea it could be used for a number of things. The vaporized ice in the region would also explain why the Moonsea is fresh water.
Hmmmmm... must get home and start researching.... might be something I can tie to Bloodstone as well... |
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Dalor Darden
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Posted - 30 Aug 2010 : 02:40:00
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| Kingdom of Barze...stood only from -456 DR to -351 DR. Ruled by the wizard Barze, a Netherese wizard and his followers founded it and evidently had "war wizards" that they allowed to follow "The Three" in the defeat of Maram of the Great Spear in c. -350 DR (not looking at the article right now) which resulted in the Kingdom of Barze losing the majority of its strength. It fell to the armies of Tyranthraxus immediately following. |
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