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The Sage
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Posted - 17 Mar 2010 :  00:05:46  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ah. Some of those sources, like the DRAGON articles, are generic D&D stuff, which is why I didn't bother checking them for references. That's probably why I missed it.

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Alystra Illianniis
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Posted - 17 Mar 2010 :  19:46:19  Show Profile Send Alystra Illianniis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I found it! It was Dragon #298, Aug. '02 issue (page 29 of an article titled "Flesh for Lolth: the Secret Life of Dark Elves"). It was a mostly drow issue, and had several very good articles that, while generic, would certainly fit in any FR drow city. The insturment in question is called the vazhan-do, and looks like a lute with 64 strings. (don't ask me how the heck that works, I haven't figured it out myself...) The sound is described as being everything from wailing, dischordant tones, violent torrents of notes, to slow, disturbing sounds. Might even have a natural reverb to it, I imagine. Sounds like Heavy Metal music to me!! And on a side note, the strings can double as garrotes. Figures that drow would find a way to kill someone with an instrument...

Also, I mentioned the discussion with my gamer hubby, who thinks that an acoustic Metal sound would be very possible- something like Savatage or one of the acoustic Metal bands, perhaps. That would negate the need for electric instruments, and although the sound might be more limited, it would still have a Metal feel to it. Hope this helps!


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Posted - 17 Mar 2010 :  21:23:41  Show Profile  Visit HelldoG's Homepage Send HelldoG a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Hope this helps!

It certainly will. Many thanks for everyone who posted in this scroll.

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Posted - 18 Mar 2010 :  00:30:03  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis

I found it! It was Dragon #298, Aug. '02 issue (page 29 of an article titled "Flesh for Lolth: the Secret Life of Dark Elves"). It was a mostly drow issue, and had several very good articles that, while generic, would certainly fit in any FR drow city. The insturment in question is called the vazhan-do, and looks like a lute with 64 strings. (don't ask me how the heck that works, I haven't figured it out myself...) The sound is described as being everything from wailing, dischordant tones, violent torrents of notes, to slow, disturbing sounds. Might even have a natural reverb to it, I imagine. Sounds like Heavy Metal music to me!! And on a side note, the strings can double as garrotes. Figures that drow would find a way to kill someone with an instrument...
My thanks Alystra.

It's a relief that I didn't miss this particular source. Being a generic D&D article means it doesn't automatically apply to the Realms drow unless the individual DM wishes it so. Thus, I don't have to include it in my Realms-specific catalogue of musical-related Realmslore.

[I might drop it into my D&D music notebook, though, for when I eventually get around to collecting all the generic D&D music stuff]

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Alystra Illianniis
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Posted - 18 Mar 2010 :  21:28:05  Show Profile Send Alystra Illianniis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, I'd imagine it could have originated there- the article used a lot of Realms-type references, like the tests, and the chad-zhak thing with females having twins.

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The Sage
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Oh, I don't doubt that the vazhan-do might find some purchase among Realms drow -- in, perhaps, more-liberal Sshamath for example, where the expressive nature of the instrument would likely find an outlet among musical devotees. But given that the source is not an FR-specific article, I'd tend to, at least initially, assume that this applies mostly to generic or core D&D.

And since I'm compiling official Realms musical references only, at least for the time being, this particular reference should, thus, be relegated to the "maybe later" pile.

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Alystra Illianniis
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Posted - 19 Mar 2010 :  01:46:30  Show Profile Send Alystra Illianniis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Aww... I could totally see it in Menzo. The sound lends itself well to Lolth's bards!

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The Sage
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Posted - 19 Mar 2010 :  02:36:27  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis

Aww... I could totally see it in Menzo. The sound lends itself well to Lolth's bards!

Oh, the vazhan-do would undoubtedly work here:-
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Originally referenced in the Menzoberranzan boxed set pg. 16 [of Book 1]

Seldom attended by high priestesses, these wild, acrobatic 'sweat dances' usually leave young drow drenched in sweat, dancing to the syncopated, driving rhythms of drumming and piping music.
I think this is about as close as we come to "heavy metal" music in the Realms.

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Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis

... and looks like a lute with 64 strings. (don't ask me how the heck that works, I haven't figured it out myself...)
It depends on the size of the sound table [usually the tear-drop-like wooden section of the instrument], really. I've seen experimental lute designs which feature larger sound tables and accommodating around 20 to 30 strings -- all running parallel to the sound tables and with plenty of tuning pegs to match. They've been derived from the design of the Baroque lute, which usually has 24 strings.

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Alystra Illianniis
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Posted - 20 Mar 2010 :  17:29:34  Show Profile Send Alystra Illianniis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
"Sweat dances"? Are you refering to the nedierras? I'd like to find some more lore on those than just what was presented in Elaine Cunningham's first book in the series on Liriel. I have a drow bard who is quite the dancer! And i kind of figured it would need a really big sound box. And probably more than one neck. Like a double neck guitar- hmm, another Metal paralell...

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