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dormcook
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Posted - 24 Mar 2010 :  14:32:42  Show Profile  Visit dormcook's Homepage Send dormcook a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Were can I find the statistics for shades? I assume its a template similar to the old ad&d monster from Monster Manual II (orginal ad&d).

I was just hoping somebody has already converted it to 3.5 and posted is somewere.



Cleric Generic
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Posted - 24 Mar 2010 :  14:37:52  Show Profile  Visit Cleric Generic's Homepage Send Cleric Generic a Private Message  Reply with Quote
the shade template is in the 3e Campaign Setting book, which I'm pretty sure wasn't altered significantly for 3.5.

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Ashe Ravenheart
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Posted - 24 Mar 2010 :  15:16:34  Show Profile Send Ashe Ravenheart a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The Shade template is in the Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting, p 314. The only changes from 3.0 to 3.5 was to list the LA as +5.

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Eye of Horus-Re
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Posted - 24 Mar 2010 :  19:55:56  Show Profile  Visit Eye of Horus-Re's Homepage Send Eye of Horus-Re a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ashe, I assume this was in the Errata?

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Ashe Ravenheart
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Posted - 24 Mar 2010 :  22:21:36  Show Profile Send Ashe Ravenheart a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Actually, it was a web enhancement for the Player's Guide to Faerūn that detailed a lot of the books that came before.

Edit: Wow. A quadruple post to delete out...

I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.

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Hawkins
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Posted - 25 Mar 2010 :  00:28:43  Show Profile  Visit Hawkins's Homepage Send Hawkins a Private Message  Reply with Quote
They also have the Shade as a race (instead of a template) in Races of Faerun (pp. 147-149).

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Ergdusch
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Posted - 25 Mar 2010 :  08:41:30  Show Profile Send Ergdusch a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Welcome to the Keep, dormcook!

Shade update?

Well, you might also want to take a look into the Dragon Magazine issue #322 (p. 46) where you'll find a 3.5 shade update as well as a level progression for this templete.

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Diffan
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As far as the race of Shades go, they're all considerd shades and usually have the statistics of their base race (a shade elf would have elf stats but is a shade). What give them their shadoy powers is a specific ritual given to those who the Princes deem worthy.

At least, I think this is how it is. I could be wrong since I'm AFB right now.
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Ergdusch
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Posted - 26 Mar 2010 :  10:24:21  Show Profile Send Ergdusch a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Diffan

As far as the race of Shades go, they're all considerd shades and usually have the statistics of their base race (a shade elf would have elf stats but is a shade). What give them their shadoy powers is a specific ritual given to those who the Princes deem worthy.

At least, I think this is how it is. I could be wrong since I'm AFB right now.



That is how the TRaces of Faerun discribes it. In the Dragno article I mentioned above another way of 'shade-creation' is discribed. to quote form p. 46:

quote:
"There it says that such a transformation might take place when creatures from the Material Plane are exposed to the strange energies of the Plane of Shadows for an extended period of time, a process that usually takes centuries."


That article is not Forgotten Realms specific. However, I thought to add the info for completeness' sake.

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Hawkins
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Posted - 26 Mar 2010 :  16:55:49  Show Profile  Visit Hawkins's Homepage Send Hawkins a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ergdusch

Welcome to the Keep, dormcook!

Shade update?

Well, you might also want to take a look into the Dragon Magazine issue #322 (p. 46) where you'll find a 3.5 shade update as well as a level progression for this templete.
I did not know about that. Thanks, Ergdusch!

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One, two! One, two! And through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back. --Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass

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* Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Reference Document (PFRPG OGL Rules)
* The Hypertext d20 SRD (3.5 OGL Rules)
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My game design work:
* Heroes of the Jade Oath (PFRPG, conversion; Rite Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 1: Cantrips & Orisons (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 2: 1st-Level Spells (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Martial Arts Guidebook (forthcoming) (PFRPG, designer; Rite Publishing)
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