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The Red Walker
Great Reader
USA
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 Posted - 23 Feb 2010 : 20:39:30
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Poll Question:
I noticed amazon has roughly 40 FR novels either available or soon to be in eBook form. And it looks like most(if not all) new releases are coming available in eBooks as well.
Which form would you prefer to be buying in? Or will you buy a mix of both?
Feel free to share any thoughts. I am debating on going with an eReader of some typr or continuing to overflow my shelving! Anyone planning on going all digital? Or waiting for the readers to be more affordable? My wife was going to buy me one for my birthday, but I told her I was not sure if I was ready to go that direction.
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Edited by - The Red Walker on 23 Feb 2010 20:40:48
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
USA
3243 Posts |
Posted - 23 Feb 2010 : 21:21:33
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I'm waiting until the prices drop a LOT more. Looking at the iPod as an example, (How much cheaper is the iPod going to get?) I'd rather wait the 7-8 years like I did before buying my first nano and get a terrific deal.
And, to expand on the article (since it's almost 4 years old), the iPod classic now holds 160GB and costs $250. Which means it's now $1.56 per GB, which is an incredible 5000% price reduction over almost ten years. Hell, I just bought my first 1 TB hard-drive for just $100. Give it five years and the e-readers will be down to a more reasonable $100 or less.
[On a fun side note, my friend found this article from 1995 written by Clifford Stoll on how the internet WON'T change everything. Nostradamus, this guy AIN'T] |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 23 Feb 2010 : 23:58:33
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I chose the third option.
Unlike many, I don't really have any problems with reading PDFs or e-books. And with the long commute to work via train, I'm usually pressed for space in my carry-all, so having ready access to PDFs and/or e-books has often been a real space-saver for me. [Heh, usually I'll end up dropping another book or piece of source material into my carry-all anyway, for lunchtime reading, but...]
It's largely for this reason that I'm considering the iPad for purchase, because my current e-reader is a few years old now and largely archaic in terms of the files it can access. So having further access to Realms novels in e-book format would work for me just as well as physically printed copies. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 24 Feb 2010 : 00:24:14
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| I don't really care for ebooks. I'll stick with printed books as long as I can. |
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Lady Fellshot
Senior Scribe
USA
379 Posts |
Posted - 24 Feb 2010 : 02:19:31
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| I like the readers and all, but the e-books are too expensive for the most part. I'm not against the idea of e-books, but I tend to vote with my pocketbook in such cases. If the price of e-novels drops or some clever person comes up with a reasonably priced subscription system I'll reconsider my position. |
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scererar
Master of Realmslore
USA
1618 Posts |
Posted - 24 Feb 2010 : 02:31:13
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| I dig ebooks though I agree that ereader prices are still too high. I too am looking at the ipad as a future option. I have been able to replace most of my library in an electronic format. Just waiting for WOTC to get on board for the FR stuff. |
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Kyrene
Senior Scribe
South Africa
757 Posts |
Posted - 24 Feb 2010 : 07:39:28
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| I voted "Too soon to decide", since I don't have an e-reader and therefore cannot compare. For now, the very few FR novels I am still willing to buy are printed. |
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Rosemary Jones
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
148 Posts |
Posted - 07 Mar 2010 : 02:07:24
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My line on ebook readers was "When it costs me a $100 or so and I can check out books from the library." Because I couldn't see buying both a print and ebook version for certain authors, even though I might want to travel with the ebook and keep the regular one safe at home on the shelf.
So, in January, my local Sony store had a Pocket Reader (floor model) for $119. I can check out and load ePubs from the library -- including many new WOTC titles -- and I can also buy the ones that I want permanently in book form.
So I'm now a happy . But, Red Walker, it has not stopped my shelves from overflowing. I'm still buying as many or more "keepers" for my book collection. |
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Hawkins
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 07 Mar 2010 : 21:45:24
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| I voted for "Printed," but I would like to note that I think all books (novels, rpg, et cetera) should start coming with codes from the publisher (most likely tear-off inside the cover like in textbooks) that should allow you to download a digital copy of the book at no additional cost. |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
USA
3567 Posts |
Posted - 07 Mar 2010 : 23:46:43
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quote:
Originally posted by Rosemary Jones
My line on ebook readers was "When it costs me a $100 or so and I can check out books from the library." Because I couldn't see buying both a print and ebook version for certain authors, even though I might want to travel with the ebook and keep the regular one safe at home on the shelf.
So, in January, my local Sony store had a Pocket Reader (floor model) for $119. I can check out and load ePubs from the library -- including many new WOTC titles -- and I can also buy the ones that I want permanently in book form.
So I'm now a happy . But, Red Walker, it has not stopped my shelves from overflowing. I'm still buying as many or more "keepers" for my book collection.
I cannot imagine not holding a book in my hands a flipping through it...but 5 years from now? Who knows! |
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"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -
John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
USA
3567 Posts |
Posted - 07 Mar 2010 : 23:47:44
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Originally posted by HawkinstheDM
I voted for "Printed," but I would like to note that I think all books (novels, rpg, et cetera) should start coming with codes from the publisher (most likely tear-off inside the cover like in textbooks) that should allow you to download a digital copy of the book at no additional cost.
I agree...but I don't see it happening. |
A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka
"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -
John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963
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skychrome
Senior Scribe
713 Posts |
Posted - 08 Mar 2010 : 19:56:58
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I voted "too soon to decide". In general I love having a paper book in my hands.
On the other hand if eBooks where significantly cheaper than the printed versions and I had an eReader that has nice features like flipping pages instead of just scrolling down plus I can get new FR novels and even "TSR out of print"-stuff: I would probably go for it without a second thought. |
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Thauramarth
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
729 Posts |
Posted - 08 Mar 2010 : 20:28:09
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I would definitely go for eBooks. Although I do like the feel of books, I lead what one could call a highly mobile life, and the advantage of having as many books with me as possible outweighs any disadvantages the eReader might have.
One caveat - still holding out for a bit until there's clarity on compatibility of the formats. |
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Ayunken-vanzan
Senior Scribe
Germany
657 Posts |
Posted - 08 Mar 2010 : 20:56:47
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| At the moment I prefer the printed book. Reading texts on a computer or with one of the current ebook readers cannot substitute reading a book for me, but that may change with the iPad. |
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Jhoebryn
Acolyte
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Posted - 08 Mar 2010 : 21:31:44
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I have a Kindle (the Amazon ebook reader) and I have to say I like it. The ability to carry a large collection of books is definitely a plus. The eInk technology is not nearly as tiring to read as a lighted screen (sorry iPad...), it reads like a book (light source required).
I actually find I prefer reading on the Kindle to reading an actual book - read page, hit button, read page, hit button... fairly simple process, and on the Kindle it is quick (the Barnes and Noble Nook is much slower to change pages - my wife has one). The ability to purchase and download books is also a huge benefit (no running to the bookstore only to find they don't have the title in stock).
My biggest fear has already been mentioned - the Kindle format for books. When this kindle is ancient, will I be able to download the books to the next device I purchase or will I lose them. For me, that is the biggest drawback. So far, I still buy all the Realms novels as they come out, but I am actually reading the Haunted Lands trilogy on the Kindle. I just like reading on it better... |
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Rosemary Jones
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
148 Posts |
Posted - 09 Mar 2010 : 03:30:41
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quote:
Originally posted by HawkinstheDM
I voted for "Printed," but I would like to note that I think all books (novels, rpg, et cetera) should start coming with codes from the publisher (most likely tear-off inside the cover like in textbooks) that should allow you to download a digital copy of the book at no additional cost.
You may very well see this happening. I was at an event for publishers and this idea was very seriously discussed among small press and independents. I can definitely see some bright publisher using this as an "added value" Others were discussing essentially the reverse: buy the e-book, get a discount (up to the full price of the e-book) on a print version.
For those in the Northwest and heading to Norwescon, I'm leading two panels on small press publishing/e-books on Friday, April 2. As I get closer to the date, I'm planning to post my notes on my website for those who can't make it or want some additional material. |
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Victor_ograygor
Master of Realmslore
Denmark
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
USA
3567 Posts |
Posted - 11 Mar 2010 : 21:21:42
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Originally posted by Rosemary Jones
quote:
Originally posted by HawkinstheDM
I voted for "Printed," but I would like to note that I think all books (novels, rpg, et cetera) should start coming with codes from the publisher (most likely tear-off inside the cover like in textbooks) that should allow you to download a digital copy of the book at no additional cost.
You may very well see this happening. I was at an event for publishers and this idea was very seriously discussed among small press and independents. I can definitely see some bright publisher using this as an "added value" Others were discussing essentially the reverse: buy the e-book, get a discount (up to the full price of the e-book) on a print version.
For those in the Northwest and heading to Norwescon, I'm leading two panels on small press publishing/e-books on Friday, April 2. As I get closer to the date, I'm planning to post my notes on my website for those who can't make it or want some additional material.
Rosemary...I hope it eventually happens(sooner the better) that would be very cool....thanks for the info! |
A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka
"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -
John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963
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danbuter
Seeker
USA
74 Posts |
Posted - 11 Mar 2010 : 23:14:41
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| I have no interest in an ebook reader. I LIKE real books. Unless ebook readers cause a lot less eyestrain than computer screens, I would get headaches. |
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
3054 Posts |
Posted - 12 Mar 2010 : 13:33:06
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| For novels I need to have an actual printed book. Game mechanics and lore books I can stand in e form (only so much of it though) |
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
3054 Posts |
Posted - 12 Mar 2010 : 13:34:30
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| For novels I need to have an actual printed book. Game mechanics and lore books I can stand in e form (only so much of it though) |
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GRYPHON
Senior Scribe
USA
527 Posts |
Posted - 12 Mar 2010 : 14:44:31
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| Too soon to decide... |
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BARDOBARBAROS
Senior Scribe
Greece
581 Posts |
Posted - 22 May 2010 : 22:31:43
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| Mix of Both |
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swifty
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
517 Posts |
Posted - 23 May 2010 : 18:18:30
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Originally posted by danbuter
I have no interest in an ebook reader. I LIKE real books. Unless ebook readers cause a lot less eyestrain than computer screens, I would get headaches.
most dont acyually cause eyestrain. |
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Jorkens
Great Reader
Norway
2950 Posts |
Posted - 24 May 2010 : 13:04:28
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I really, really hate to read anything of a screen and never trust anything computer-based, as it will continually break down when I am near. On the other hand I love to hold books, look at the cover and sort them in the shelves, in addition to reading them.
Anyone curious about what I voted ? |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
USA
3567 Posts |
Posted - 01 Jun 2010 : 18:37:03
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Still on the fence......kinda.
Wife bought me an iPad and the books on there(especially the illustrated ones) are gorgeous.
I have yet to purchase an eBook FR title though.....I keep looking over at my bookshelves (which hold every FR Novel except the ablolithic thingys) and have a hard time not buying the next one to put with them! Maybe I will get over it , but I have a hard time "splitting" my collection of FR into two parts.... |
A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka
"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -
John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963
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Rosemary Jones
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
148 Posts |
Posted - 05 Jun 2010 : 04:44:37
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I own an ebook reader that is compatible with my local library system. I do love it for commuting and other travel. And I can check out the FR books that I don't want to lug around in my suitcase! So that's a nice plus.
Last couple of conventions I attended, this has been a HUGE topic of discussion. Most seem to fall into an "either/or" idea: either you go all e-book or all print. I'm finding that I'm more a "both/more the merrier" I'm still buying print books, but I'm reading at least one book a week on my Sony reader. |
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GERGE
Acolyte
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Posted - 08 Jun 2010 : 15:01:25
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For foreign guys like me eBooks are like a dream come true. You simply cannot find books newer than one year in Turkey. Hardcovers of fantasy novels never come here anyway. Only paperbacks.
I have a Nook and being able to buy anything I want from Barnes&Noble is great.
Let me give you an example: I bought this today:http://search.barnesandnoble.com/The-Passage/Justin-Cronin/e/9780345516862 It was released today too. If I didn't have a Nook, I would either had to wait for one and half year or so for the mass-market paperback or pirate the book and read it from computer. I could order the book from U.S. but my student budget can't pay for a hardcover plus Int. shipping.
So, you guys from the U.S. might not think that eBook is a big deal, but it is.
To talk about FR novels, I just bought a FR novel I simply can't find in Turkey as a B&N eBook. They are really great  |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
USA
3567 Posts |
Posted - 08 Jun 2010 : 20:07:26
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Originally posted by GERGE
For foreign guys like me eBooks are like a dream come true. You simply cannot find books newer than one year in Turkey. Hardcovers of fantasy novels never come here anyway. Only paperbacks.
I have a Nook and being able to buy anything I want from Barnes&Noble is great.
Let me give you an example: I bought this today:http://search.barnesandnoble.com/The-Passage/Justin-Cronin/e/9780345516862 It was released today too. If I didn't have a Nook, I would either had to wait for one and half year or so for the mass-market paperback or pirate the book and read it from computer. I could order the book from U.S. but my student budget can't pay for a hardcover plus Int. shipping.
So, you guys from the U.S. might not think that eBook is a big deal, but it is.
To talk about FR novels, I just bought a FR novel I simply can't find in Turkey as a B&N eBook. They are really great
that is awesome! I see more and more FR books popping up available as ebooks and it doesnt hurt that many FR authors are supportive.....Rosemary Jones(you'll like her stuff alot!), Paul S Kemp(of Erevis Cale Fame) and Erik Scott de Bie to name just a few! |
A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka
"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -
John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963
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Dennis
Great Reader
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Posted - 13 Jun 2010 : 10:31:03
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| nothing can sunbstitute an actual, you-can-feel book. ebooks are good, but printed are a lot better. and of course, if you're into having your own physical (as opposed to electronic) library that you want to expand and expand (like what i do), then the choice is obvious... |
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ElaineCunningham
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 15 Jun 2010 : 00:21:45
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| Ebooks would provide a way to keep all the backlist in print. Ebooks would also give an inexpensive way to experiment with new forms that are not commercially viable, such as a novella, and experiment with new delivery methods, such as sending new installments of a digital serial novel directly to the reader's phone. |
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