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Copper Elven Vampire
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Posted - 14 Mar 2011 :  19:18:17  Show Profile Send Copper Elven Vampire a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
I've heard some great things about this book and some not so good things. I love anything with elves as main characters, but can I get some opinions on this novel so I can decide if I should but it or not? Thank you.

CEV

Hawkins
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Posted - 14 Mar 2011 :  20:54:30  Show Profile  Visit Hawkins's Homepage Send Hawkins a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I last read it a few years back, but I definitely enjoyed it. And it is one of the only novels (if not the only novel) featuring star elves. Also, IIRC, there is a character in Stardeep that showed up originally in Darkvision, so you might want to read that first.

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Posted - 15 Mar 2011 :  00:07:55  Show Profile Send Ayrik a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Stardeep is the third book (of four) in The Dungeons series.

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Edited by - Ayrik on 15 Mar 2011 00:08:22
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jornan
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Posted - 15 Mar 2011 :  01:46:24  Show Profile Send jornan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think it is definately worth the read. But as HawkinstheDM pointed out you may want to read Darkvision from the Wizards series first. And then assuming you enjoyed Darkvision and Stardeep you will want to continue to story with the Abolethic Sovereignty.
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The Red Walker
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Posted - 15 Mar 2011 :  12:47:39  Show Profile Send The Red Walker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Copper Elven Vampire

I've heard some great things about this book and some not so good things. I love anything with elves as main characters, but can I get some opinions on this novel so I can decide if I should but it or not? Thank you.

CEV



Not trying to give away too much and wont tell you if it was good or bad, just a simple question could answer this for you.

Are you ready for or interested in a sort of Magicly powered computer/sentience/construct? If so go for it....if not don't.

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Hawkins
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Posted - 15 Mar 2011 :  14:45:19  Show Profile  Visit Hawkins's Homepage Send Hawkins a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker
Are you ready for or interested in a sort of Magicly powered computer/sentience/construct? If so go for it....if not don't.

IIRC, that was actually in Darkvision, not Stardeep. And, IMO, that is an oversimplification of the entity/object you are referring to.

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The Sage
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Posted - 15 Mar 2011 :  14:56:16  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by HawkinstheDM

quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker
Are you ready for or interested in a sort of Magicly powered computer/sentience/construct? If so go for it....if not don't.

IIRC, that was actually in Darkvision, not Stardeep. And, IMO, that is an oversimplification of the entity/object you are referring to.

If you're referring to Cynosure, the sentient construct, then it's actually from the Stardeep novel.

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The Red Walker
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Posted - 15 Mar 2011 :  18:09:03  Show Profile Send The Red Walker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by HawkinstheDM

quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker
Are you ready for or interested in a sort of Magicly powered computer/sentience/construct? If so go for it....if not don't.

IIRC, that was actually in Darkvision, not Stardeep. And, IMO, that is an oversimplification of the entity/object you are referring to.



Its a oversimplification, no doubt about it. It was intentional, I was trying not to give away too much and not influence + or -, but I think I still hit the crux of it.

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The Red Walker
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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by HawkinstheDM

quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker
Are you ready for or interested in a sort of Magicly powered computer/sentience/construct? If so go for it....if not don't.

IIRC, that was actually in Darkvision, not Stardeep. And, IMO, that is an oversimplification of the entity/object you are referring to.

If you're referring to Cynosure, the sentient construct, then it's actually from the Stardeep novel.



I was referring to that, but trying not to name it

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Hawkins
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Posted - 15 Mar 2011 :  20:52:58  Show Profile  Visit Hawkins's Homepage Send Hawkins a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Lol. Which of the novels has the half-golem? Obviously I am mixing the plots of a few of the books from those series (The Wizards and Dungeons) in my head. Now I will have to go and read them again. BTW, I was thinking about the Imaskari artifact featured in one of the books when you mentioned "Magicly powered computer/sentience/construct."

Edited by - Hawkins on 15 Mar 2011 20:55:11
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The Sage
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Posted - 16 Mar 2011 :  00:35:43  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by HawkinstheDM

Lol. Which of the novels has the half-golem? Obviously I am mixing the plots of a few of the books from those series (The Wizards and Dungeons) in my head. Now I will have to go and read them again. BTW, I was thinking about the Imaskari artifact featured in one of the books when you mentioned "Magicly powered computer/sentience/construct."

You might be thinking of Ususi's uskura, which is a magical construct that nearly every citizen of Deep Imaskar could craft or purchase. Each one acts as a general, all-purpose bearer of burdens, opener of doors, and retriever of objects.

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Copper Elven Vampire
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Posted - 16 Mar 2011 :  21:32:02  Show Profile Send Copper Elven Vampire a Private Message  Reply with Quote
thanks everyone.
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swifty
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Posted - 17 Mar 2011 :  23:08:51  Show Profile  Visit swifty's Homepage Send swifty a Private Message  Reply with Quote
im really enjoying stardeep.darkvision was good but this is even better.

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Markustay
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Actually, the BBG from Darkvision is/was Pandorym, who is an Elder Evil (and written-up in the 3e tome of the same name).

I found Darkvision interesting, although it strayed from canon somewhat (Halruaans do NOT sell their skyships!), but for the most part it was an enjoyable read. One of my favorite FR 'scenes' in regards to lore take place in that book - the connection between Imaskar and the Fey.

Not a big fan of Deep Imaskar (or its newly returned status), and REALLY not a fan of elves, but regardless I liked Darkvision, and I would suggest reading that first.

That's as close as a recommendation as I can give you, since I haven't read the actual novel you are asking about, but THAT BOOK is the REAL first appearance of a star Elf (AFAIK) - one of the main characters is one (the one that appears later in Stardeep).

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Edited by - Markustay on 18 Mar 2011 04:35:14
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Lord Karsus
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Posted - 26 Mar 2011 :  19:00:13  Show Profile Send Lord Karsus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by HawkinstheDM

Lol. Which of the novels has the half-golem? Obviously I am mixing the plots of a few of the books from those series (The Wizards and Dungeons) in my head. Now I will have to go and read them again. BTW, I was thinking about the Imaskari artifact featured in one of the books when you mentioned "Magicly powered computer/sentience/construct."



-The Half-Golem character is Dorn Graybrook, who was in the Year of the Rogue Dragons trilogy.

Regarding Stardeep, here is my review of it:

http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/19847326/LKs_Book_Review:_Stardeep

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Edited by - Wooly Rupert on 26 Mar 2011 19:02:39
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