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Rhewtani
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 Posted - 30 Jul 2009 : 03:22:45
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Ok, apparently Elves of Evermeet is the first book to detail moonblades, but where can I find history on them? i.e. when they were created?
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Ashe Ravenheart
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Posted - 30 Jul 2009 : 03:38:13
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| Well, Magic of Faerūn has some crunch on them for the 3rd Edition, while Elaine Cunningham's Songs & Swords series details much about Arilyn Moonblade, a wielder of one of the blades. Also, Elaine's Evermeet: Island of Elves is a great novel on the elven history in Faerūn, but I cannot recall if she gets into specifics on the creation of the blades. |
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Wooly Rupert
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Kuje
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Posted - 30 Jul 2009 : 04:36:34
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Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart
Well, Magic of Faerūn has some crunch on them for the 3rd Edition, while Elaine Cunningham's Songs & Swords series details much about Arilyn Moonblade, a wielder of one of the blades. Also, Elaine's Evermeet: Island of Elves is a great novel on the elven history in Faerūn, but I cannot recall if she gets into specifics on the creation of the blades.
There's a scene/chapter two in the Evermeet novel detailing their creation. :) |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Rhewtani
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 30 Jul 2009 : 15:35:22
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| Is there a chronology of them? Really, what I need to know for sure is when they were first "out there." |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 30 Jul 2009 : 15:48:29
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| No chronology... But page 311 of the paperback copy of Evermeet has the claiming ceremony happening in -9000 DR. |
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Lord Karsus
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Posted - 30 Jul 2009 : 17:59:30
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-The Moonblades were created in -9,000 DR by Ethlando, an Aryvandaari High Mage, and a Circle of Elven High Magi. The blades were enchanted with magic cast by the Circle to judge those who were worthy of wielding them, and to empower them, based on the exploits of the wielder, and past wielders. Originally, there were 300 Moonblades, one for every noble who had been summoned. They were created to eventually determine a proper ruler for the theoretical throne of Evermeet, a place that had only recently been "discovered" by the Elves of the mainland. Eventually, across the thousands and thousands of years, the amount of active Moonblades- those with wielders judged worthy to wield them- would get smaller and smaller, until "one, or perhaps two or three, will become such a sword as a king might wield." At least 172 swords were claimed during the initial ceremony, and, of course, over the years, the number of active Moonblades has dropped precipitously. When King Zaor Moonflower took the throne of Evermeet, the initial purpose of the Moonblades was satisfied.
-We don't know exactly how many Moonblades continue to exist today (1,375 DR), being that we never knew the exact number of Moonblades that were "out there". We know of Arilyn Moonblades' sword. We know of Elaith Craulnobler's sword. We know of Daried Morvaerils'/Nilsa Harvalmeer's sword. We know of Kroloth Ilbaereth's sword. We know of Teharissa Ulongyr's sword. We know of Tyllaetha Silverspear's sword. According to Magic of Faerūn, only "a few" are known to still exist (active). Presumably, many of the active Moonblades transformed into Hopeblades in 1,374 DR, when the City of Hope was restored in the High Moor. |
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Rhewtani
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Posted - 30 Jul 2009 : 18:44:47
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| The Starym one exists, too, right? I'm planning on using the Tsornyl moonblade in my campaign. |
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 30 Jul 2009 : 19:23:57
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Originally posted by Rhewtani
The Starym one exists, too, right? I'm planning on using the Tsornyl moonblade in my campaign.
Yup. And it's written up in Volo's Guide to All Things Magical (formerly a suppressed work  , now available for free from the Wizards downloads page).
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Kes_Alanadel
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Posted - 30 Jul 2009 : 20:18:21
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Originally posted by Dagnirion
-We don't know exactly how many Moonblades continue to exist today (1,375 DR), being that we never knew the exact number of Moonblades that were "out there". We know of Arilyn Moonblades' sword. We know of Elaith Craulnobler's sword. We know of Daried Morvaerils'/Nilsa Harvalmeer's sword. We know of Kroloth Ilbaereth's sword. We know of Teharissa Ulongyr's sword. We know of Tyllaetha Silverspear's sword. According to Magic of Faerūn, only "a few" are known to still exist (active). Presumably, many of the active Moonblades transformed into Hopeblades in 1,374 DR, when the City of Hope was restored in the High Moor.
If I remember correctly, in one of the last printed Dragon's, there is a short story about Elaith in which he discovers an unnamed Moonblade on a human lordling. Right now I can't remember which issue it was in, nor the title. *sigh* |
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Lord Necro
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Posted - 30 Jul 2009 : 22:18:58
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| In Elaine Cunningham's book: Silver Shadows, there is quite a bit of info on Moonblades. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 31 Jul 2009 : 00:51:26
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Originally posted by Rhewtani
The Starym one exists, too, right? I'm planning on using the Tsornyl moonblade in my campaign.
For myself, I'd be a little weary when using the Starym Moonblade in my campaign. I'd see it more as a plot device, rather than something a PC could use.
The Darkmoon is both intelligent and possesses a significant ego -- the blade, rather than any wielder who does not share in the beliefs of the EV -- will determine its own course. In fact, it's possible that the blade itself is leading those who are not EV into a situation where the Darkmoon could be returned to the group. The Darkmoon is, in this regard, much like Sauron's Ring... in that "it wants to be found" by those to whom it belongs
However, it's your game, so you are free to do as you wish. If I were to attempt something like this, not that I would really because, like Elaine originally envisioned... moonblades are meant to aid the story and the plot... rather than a PC, I would require that the wielder spend more time "fighting" the blade for dominance than he/she would using it successfully in combat. |
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Lord Karsus
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Posted - 31 Jul 2009 : 02:32:44
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Originally posted by Rhewtani
The Starym one exists, too, right? I'm planning on using the Tsornyl moonblade in my campaign.
-Technically, it's a Moonblade, but I don't know if I'd still consider it a Moonblade (it certainly isn't pure anymore), based on the...third-party alterations it's undergone. It's warantee isn't valid anymore, so to speak. It's more and less than a Moonblade, now. |
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Lady Kazandra
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Posted - 01 Aug 2009 : 05:25:01
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There's some truth to that.
I seem to recall Eric L. Boyd bringing up this point for consideration in a previous thread.
Sage? Wooly? Can either of you find it? |
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The Sage
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Posted - 01 Aug 2009 : 07:46:57
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Originally posted by Lady Kazandra
There's some truth to that.
I seem to recall Eric L. Boyd bringing up this point for consideration in a previous thread.
Sage? Wooly? Can either of you find it?
Yeah, it's a post Eric once made over at the REALMS-L. It's in the "Lore of the Sages" compilation as part of the compiled reply archives here at Candlekeep. |
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Rhewtani
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Posted - 03 Aug 2009 : 16:08:52
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| Oh no, I'm not using the starym one, I was just adding it to the list of "known" ones. |
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Saegis
Acolyte
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Posted - 04 Aug 2009 : 07:02:43
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I cannot say there is a large amount of information within the story but I seem to recall the short story "The Bladesinger's Lesson" by Richard Baker found within the The Last Mythal: Anthology of the Elves book.
A particularly interesting note is the dead moonblade reawakening for some not from the original family of the blade itself. I'd suggest reading it because it'd be best to get the details from the source and not my addled brain.
May I add as a completely irrelevant note that remembering this particular story has made me realize that a lot can be gained from the FR anthologies when researching a wide variety of lore on the realms. |
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Lord Karsus
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Posted - 04 Aug 2009 : 23:49:02
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Originally posted by Saegis
A particularly interesting note is the dead moonblade reawakening for some not from the original family of the blade itself. I'd suggest reading it because it'd be best to get the details from the source and not my addled brain.
-Nilsa Harvalmeer is a Half-Elf from the region, with implied ancestry linking her to the Moraervril family. |
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Marquant Volker
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Posted - 24 Aug 2009 : 22:32:54
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The Elfshadow and Silver Shadows have many information on mooonblades especially the one carried by Arilyn. They are part of the series Songs and Swords. And of course let us not forget the novel "Evermeet:Island Of the Elves" Considered by some (incuding me) the "Elven Bible".
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