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Hoondatha
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Posted - 08 May 2009 :  02:06:36  Show Profile  Visit Hoondatha's Homepage Send Hoondatha a Private Message  Reply with Quote
When I got tracking as a bonus proficiency, I didn't think I'd be getting this many successes with it. Just goes to show that the dice gods are fickle.

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Barshevy
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Posted - 08 May 2009 :  04:28:42  Show Profile  Visit Barshevy's Homepage Send Barshevy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hoondatha

Hmm. Then that makes it rather advantageous to either Valthorin or Nagrath, since they're both rather likely to get hit.

I say for now we keep in the communal pool, and maybe use it later as a better use appears.



Somebody has to hold it, though.

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Tyr
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Posted - 08 May 2009 :  08:47:08  Show Profile  Visit Tyr's Homepage Send Tyr a Private Message  Reply with Quote
ok, Keldon will keep hold of it until he can pass it off on someone, so whoever needs it first gets it or something.
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Posted - 10 May 2009 :  03:00:19  Show Profile  Visit Barshevy's Homepage Send Barshevy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Apologies for the slow pace this weekend. It's been kind of hectic here.

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Hoondatha
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Posted - 10 May 2009 :  03:58:24  Show Profile  Visit Hoondatha's Homepage Send Hoondatha a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No problem. Life happens.

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Ghost King
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Posted - 10 May 2009 :  05:37:39  Show Profile  Visit Ghost King's Homepage Send Ghost King a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No worries, take your time.
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Penknight
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Posted - 10 May 2009 :  10:13:49  Show Profile Send Penknight a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It's perfectly fine, sir. We all understand.

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Hoondatha
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Posted - 10 May 2009 :  20:28:25  Show Profile  Visit Hoondatha's Homepage Send Hoondatha a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Since Nagrath doesn't have any long-range attacks, he's going to just hang out for the next few rounds. He'll join in the missile barrage when they get within dart range. Oh, and he's definitely in the second rank, behind the beefy fighter-types.

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Posted - 11 May 2009 :  00:19:27  Show Profile  Visit Barshevy's Homepage Send Barshevy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I gotcha.

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Hoondatha
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Posted - 12 May 2009 :  01:01:40  Show Profile  Visit Hoondatha's Homepage Send Hoondatha a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Chainmail and shield is AC 4... Nagrath might just have hit. Here's hoping, anyway.

edit: Well, now we know that he has at least a Dex of 15.

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Posted - 12 May 2009 :  01:18:31  Show Profile  Visit Barshevy's Homepage Send Barshevy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You might have hit with your first roll. Please take a look at my revised posting on the IC thread.

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Hoondatha
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Posted - 12 May 2009 :  01:59:09  Show Profile  Visit Hoondatha's Homepage Send Hoondatha a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I suppose we could add all modifiers to attack rolls, but I think that'll get really unwieldy really fast. Once we start throwing things like Str (for some), magic pluses, Dex, etc., it'll be easier to generate a modified thac0 for each weapon and then just put the situational bonuses in the thread. Otherwise we could end up with stuff like 14 +1 (magic) -5 (range) +3 (str) +1 (dex) -2 (cover), when we really only need the range and cover.

Instead, we should create a Modified THAC0 for each weapon with stuff that doesn't change (Str, Dex, magic bonus, specialization, maybe bladesong). Then all we need to do in the thread is post stuff that does change (range, fog, cover, racial/species enemy, spells, etc.). You're already comparing enemy attacks to various AC's, why can't we do the same thing with weapons?

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Barshevy
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Posted - 12 May 2009 :  03:02:46  Show Profile  Visit Barshevy's Homepage Send Barshevy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That would work too. But it would just be easier on me if my players did it that way.

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Hoondatha
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Posted - 15 May 2009 :  04:02:23  Show Profile  Visit Hoondatha's Homepage Send Hoondatha a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Fighting against someone higher than you is a -1 to hit, yes. My advice is to move around behind them next turn. You deny them Dex, shield, and get a +2 to hit. Or force them to turn and deal with you, at which point the rest of us get the same bonus.

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Ghost King
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Posted - 15 May 2009 :  07:34:06  Show Profile  Visit Ghost King's Homepage Send Ghost King a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Cool, thanks for the help. It was my intent to help you guys as I stated, but the dice had different ideas. :)

Next round I'll move into a flanking position to help you guys out since I'll probably blow my attack on having to get up anyways. Or will I still be able to get up, move to flank and attack once?

As I read it, and I'll reread after posting, I think you have to spend your attack for the round. Or am I mixing editions? I might, anyways feel free to correct me while I look this up.
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Tyr
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Posted - 15 May 2009 :  08:31:07  Show Profile  Visit Tyr's Homepage Send Tyr a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Assuming its possible I was gonna use my mage's turn to get you up, so you can just move and attack, but not sure how that works in this edition.
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Hoondatha
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Posted - 16 May 2009 :  01:43:53  Show Profile  Visit Hoondatha's Homepage Send Hoondatha a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Note: deleted my reply, since GK beat me to it.

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Ghost King
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Posted - 16 May 2009 :  02:31:14  Show Profile  Visit Ghost King's Homepage Send Ghost King a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Heh, figured that would happen, but at least we know they want to live. :)
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Hoondatha
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Posted - 16 May 2009 :  03:17:35  Show Profile  Visit Hoondatha's Homepage Send Hoondatha a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Boy, it sure seems my night to have people post before I get a response all typed out... Just not fast enough it seemed.

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Hoondatha
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Posted - 16 May 2009 :  03:38:41  Show Profile  Visit Hoondatha's Homepage Send Hoondatha a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I may be jumping the gun a little, but Nagrath's been setting himself up specifically to kill them, AND he's a trained backstabber. He never had any intention of letting them get away.

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Ghost King
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Posted - 16 May 2009 :  03:49:27  Show Profile  Visit Ghost King's Homepage Send Ghost King a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sorry about that Hoondatha, but I prep my responses usually before I post anything. Didn't mean to cut you off. And you don't have to justify yourself for doing something in-character, if your character would do that then that is what you do. Just in-character my character is going to have a strong reaction against it. Interesting twist I must say.

Lol, for once you got Ariton and Valak to agree on something! :P
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Hoondatha
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Posted - 16 May 2009 :  04:07:19  Show Profile  Visit Hoondatha's Homepage Send Hoondatha a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Nah, don't worry about it. Occupational hazard for pbp games.

And what I'm doing is written into the very tunnelrat character description. It's one of the things that attracted me to the class, actually. "Tunnelrats are very aggressive and harshly practical, which is an adventurer#146;'s way of saying they generally take no prisoners." Got a lovely simplicity to it. But you'd probably want to keep him away from things like Cormyrian politics.

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Ghost King
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Posted - 16 May 2009 :  04:22:00  Show Profile  Visit Ghost King's Homepage Send Ghost King a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well you beat me that time. Deleted my post.
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Hoondatha
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Posted - 16 May 2009 :  06:16:39  Show Profile  Visit Hoondatha's Homepage Send Hoondatha a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The dagger sounds like a dagger of venom. If we can confirm that, Nagrath is probably the logical person to hang onto it. He's not proficient with it while Lith is, but Lith would fall really quickly if she used it.

I'd actually designed Nagrath with a half-formed intention to make him a poison user. I even flirted briefly on making him an exiled duergar specifically for that purpose. That's why he has herbalism, for instance, and why he's CN (G), instead of just plain CG.

And there's no reason why a dagger of venom couldn't be used to deliver sleep poison. Or holy water, for that matter.

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Posted - 16 May 2009 :  06:44:02  Show Profile  Visit Ghost King's Homepage Send Ghost King a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Valak is interested in the longsword, but considering the groups current probably negative outlook towards what he did, he would allow one of the others to take it if they showed interest.
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Hoondatha
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Posted - 16 May 2009 :  06:46:13  Show Profile  Visit Hoondatha's Homepage Send Hoondatha a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What's our order of march? So far we've got Nagrath, then Valak. An archer should probably be next... Lith? Let's hash this out before we encounter something nasty under the earth. :)

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Posted - 16 May 2009 :  07:10:45  Show Profile Send Penknight a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'll fill in wherever another melee person would be most useful, I guess.

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Tyr
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Posted - 16 May 2009 :  11:25:54  Show Profile  Visit Tyr's Homepage Send Tyr a Private Message  Reply with Quote
lol, thanks to GMT I missed the whole section.

I'm not really sure who else can use longswords in the party, so based my guess on what people are using. So i'm thinking that we can either give the sword to Valak to further increase his high damage, or shore up Valthorin a bit, but it seems he'll be getting the chainmail, which is the next item on the list of things to Sepllcraft check.

Can plan on who gets the ring when its identified.

On marching order, how about: Nagrath, Valak, Keldon, Ariton, Cyreela, Lithoniel, Valthorin.

Just working it out on posts so far, with Ariton being asked to stay near Cyreela and Lith, while Valthorin would probably hang around Lith anyway and it might help to have a fighter type at the rear.
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Hoondatha
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Posted - 16 May 2009 :  15:20:31  Show Profile  Visit Hoondatha's Homepage Send Hoondatha a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I agree with Valthorin at the back, but I'd prefer Lith in position 3, since it's more likely any attacks are going to come from the front and she's the best archer we have. Maybe swap her and Keldon?

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Tyr
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Posted - 16 May 2009 :  15:21:23  Show Profile  Visit Tyr's Homepage Send Tyr a Private Message  Reply with Quote
done. Everyone else in agreement?
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