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Kuje
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Posted - 22 Apr 2009 :  23:19:19  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart

Yes, Hoon, good job on Nagrath!

The dynamics are definitely going to be interesting in the group. I know Lith sees a bit of herself in Cyr. And she's not quite trusting Valak since he tends to act like a Zhent right now...



Grin, thanks. :)

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Tyr
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Posted - 23 Apr 2009 :  09:38:50  Show Profile  Visit Tyr's Homepage Send Tyr a Private Message  Reply with Quote
lol, Keldon sees Nagrath as a liability, just from the words he's chosen to use. Valak's the noisy meatshield.
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Barshevy
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Posted - 23 Apr 2009 :  14:23:57  Show Profile  Visit Barshevy's Homepage Send Barshevy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
At this point we need a "ride" order agreed upon. Ariton insists on taking the lead. The rest is up to you guys.
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Ashe Ravenheart
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Posted - 23 Apr 2009 :  14:32:39  Show Profile Send Ashe Ravenheart a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Either up front with Ariton or at the rear watching our backs. Being the ranger, Lith would prefer either scouting forward or lagging back to watch our trail.

I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.

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Hoondatha
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Posted - 23 Apr 2009 :  16:11:23  Show Profile  Visit Hoondatha's Homepage Send Hoondatha a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Nagrath is no rider, and he's on a pony. He's right in the middle, and will be until the group dismounts.

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Penknight
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Posted - 23 Apr 2009 :  16:26:21  Show Profile Send Penknight a Private Message  Reply with Quote
In the front, on the left if it's all right with everyone else.

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Ghost King
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Posted - 23 Apr 2009 :  16:28:16  Show Profile  Visit Ghost King's Homepage Send Ghost King a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'll bring up the rear so Lith can be more towards the front for tracking, if needed.
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Kuje
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Posted - 23 Apr 2009 :  17:27:47  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ghost King

I'll bring up the rear so Lith can be more towards the front for tracking, if needed.



I wrote it that Cyr took Valak up on his offer last night, so she's with Valak.

For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird

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Tyr
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Posted - 23 Apr 2009 :  18:00:27  Show Profile  Visit Tyr's Homepage Send Tyr a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Mine would be in the middle somewhere.
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Ghost King
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Posted - 23 Apr 2009 :  18:10:50  Show Profile  Visit Ghost King's Homepage Send Ghost King a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Cool. See I told you Valak might surprise you guys. He just comes off like a Zhent at first. Most merc's do.

And yes he is very full of himself, but most knights were full of themselves in the Feudal era. So I'm using them as a template to the concept of Valak. Hope you guys don't mind, but Valak is kind of based off from a character or two from George R.R. Martin's fantasy saga A Song of Fire and Ice for some inspiration. Great series by the way to read, but definately not for the squeamish or easily offended.
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Penknight
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Posted - 23 Apr 2009 :  18:59:17  Show Profile Send Penknight a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ghost King

Cool. See I told you Valak might surprise you guys. He just comes off like a Zhent at first. Most merc's do.

And yes he is very full of himself, but most knights were full of themselves in the Feudal era. So I'm using them as a template to the concept of Valak. Hope you guys don't mind, but Valak is kind of based off from a character or two from George R.R. Martin's fantasy saga A Song of Fire and Ice for some inspiration. Great series by the way to read, but definately not for the squeamish or easily offended.

I like him a lot so far. And I realize that Valthorin feels a bit like he's 'just here', but it take me a while to feel out a character. I hope that you guys don't mind.

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Ghost King
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Posted - 23 Apr 2009 :  19:41:43  Show Profile  Visit Ghost King's Homepage Send Ghost King a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Take as much time as you need, Penknight. This character just kind of clicked for me at the beginning to play. I've been known to go two to three adventures before getting into character myself. Just feel free to jump in whenever you're ready.
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Penknight
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Posted - 23 Apr 2009 :  19:51:16  Show Profile Send Penknight a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ghost King

Take as much time as you need, Penknight. This character just kind of clicked for me at the beginning to play. I've been known to go two to three adventures before getting into character myself. Just feel free to jump in whenever you're ready.

Thank you, I appreciate that.

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Ashe Ravenheart
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Posted - 23 Apr 2009 :  21:57:20  Show Profile Send Ashe Ravenheart a Private Message  Reply with Quote
FYI:

I'm going to be away from the computer for most of the night, so if anything big happens, feel free to run her as an NPC. Otherwise, she'll be riding quietly up front with Ariton.

I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.

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Tyr
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Posted - 23 Apr 2009 :  22:08:35  Show Profile  Visit Tyr's Homepage Send Tyr a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Penknight, i've got the same. If your character isn't an extreme then it seems to take longer. Seeing as this is my first pbp i'm also trying to work out how to go about posting.
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Penknight
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Posted - 23 Apr 2009 :  23:30:01  Show Profile Send Penknight a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tyr

Penknight, i've got the same. If your character isn't an extreme then it seems to take longer. Seeing as this is my first pbp i'm also trying to work out how to go about posting.

I'm glad I'm not alone in this then.

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Hoondatha
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Posted - 24 Apr 2009 :  01:50:56  Show Profile  Visit Hoondatha's Homepage Send Hoondatha a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Moving over to this thread, since this isn't an IC matter.

0 level spells don't exist in 2nd. Instead, we have the abysmal Cantrip 1st level spell, which, like the man-catcher, is someone no sane player ever chooses. Instead, there are spells that belong to the "Universal School," really basic spells that every wizard should be able to cast. As per the Wizard's Spell Compendium, they are:

1st Level:
COMPREHEND LANGUAGES
DETECT MAGIC
IDENTIFY
CANTRIP
HOLD PORTAL
READ MAGlC
WIZARD MARK
2nd Level:
PROTECTIOFRNO MC ANTRP
KNOCK
WUARD LQCK
3rd Level: DISPEL MAGIC
4th Level: REMOVE CURSE
5th Level: TELEPORT
6th Level: ENCHANT AN ITEM
7th Level: TELEPORT WlTHOUT ERROR
8th Level: PERMANENCY
9th Level: ASTRAL SPELL

These spells are memorized as normal, but are spells that any mage or specialist can learn. Which means Detect Magic remains a 1st level spell.

There are some variant cantrips, like the one from from Dragon 221, which turns cantrips into a proficiency. I kind of like that one, but since it wasn't included at start-up, it would require some rebuilding to incorporate (not that that would be hard, since none of us have used any skills yet).

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Barshevy
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Posted - 24 Apr 2009 :  02:35:36  Show Profile  Visit Barshevy's Homepage Send Barshevy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Gotcha, thanks Hoondatha.
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Barshevy
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Posted - 24 Apr 2009 :  02:43:04  Show Profile  Visit Barshevy's Homepage Send Barshevy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm looking at Dragon 221, and I'll stay away from implementing that. It's a bit involved.

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Kuje
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Posted - 24 Apr 2009 :  02:47:20  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Clerics had Orisons, which are divine opposites of Cantrips. There's druidic ones and cleric ones.


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Barshevy
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Posted - 24 Apr 2009 :  07:56:11  Show Profile  Visit Barshevy's Homepage Send Barshevy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
We'll need a watch order as well.
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Tyr
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Posted - 24 Apr 2009 :  09:13:15  Show Profile  Visit Tyr's Homepage Send Tyr a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well I was thinking of maybe having everyone on 4 hour shifts, which overlap by 2 hours. That way if something happens in the middle of the night we've got 2 people on watch.

Either way my wizard will probably take the second or third watch, to give him time to re-memorize magic missile.
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Ghost King
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Posted - 24 Apr 2009 :  13:05:20  Show Profile  Visit Ghost King's Homepage Send Ghost King a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Valak probably would take mid watch since he doesn't need rest as badly as the casters that way their rest isn't interrupted.
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Penknight
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Posted - 24 Apr 2009 :  13:28:32  Show Profile Send Penknight a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tyr

Well I was thinking of maybe having everyone on 4 hour shifts, which overlap by 2 hours. That way if something happens in the middle of the night we've got 2 people on watch.

Either way my wizard will probably take the second or third watch, to give him time to re-memorize magic missile.

I agree with this. And with the period of darkness mixing with dawn being misleading, Valthorin will offer to take last watch so his infravision will be of use here if no one objects.

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Ashe Ravenheart
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Posted - 24 Apr 2009 :  13:37:30  Show Profile Send Ashe Ravenheart a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Lith will take the last watch.

I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.

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Kuje
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Posted - 24 Apr 2009 :  18:10:13  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm game for any watch but Cyr needs a hr in the morn to pray. :)

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Penknight
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Posted - 24 Apr 2009 :  18:12:15  Show Profile Send Penknight a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Then I guess that Valthorin can take first watch, unless someone has another recommendation.

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Hoondatha
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Posted - 24 Apr 2009 :  18:14:41  Show Profile  Visit Hoondatha's Homepage Send Hoondatha a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Which looks like it leaves first watch to me. Technically, second watch would be best, since Nagrath has infravision, but he needs eight hours of sleep to memorize spells.

edit: We should have one infravision person on each watch. Nagrath takes first and Valthorin third, since both need undisturbed rest to memorize spells. That leaves Lith for second. The non-infravision people can spread out as desired through the watches.

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Penknight
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Posted - 24 Apr 2009 :  18:20:00  Show Profile Send Penknight a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Hoondatha

Which looks like it leaves first watch to me. Technically, second watch would be best, since Nagrath has infravision, but he needs eight hours of sleep to memorize spells.

edit: We should have one infravision person on each watch. Nagrath takes first and Valthorin third, since both need undisturbed rest to memorize spells. That leaves Lith for second. The non-infravision people can spread out as desired through the watches.

That works for me.

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Ashe Ravenheart
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Posted - 24 Apr 2009 :  18:25:05  Show Profile Send Ashe Ravenheart a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sounds good to me too... Almost forgot I had infravision

I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.

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