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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 12 Feb 2009 :  17:16:55  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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One of these days I will have to find out what BattleTech actually is, as the theme comes up regularly in these pages.



It's another setting that isn't what it was. They blew it up with an event called the Jihad which, in my opinion, is even more nonsensical than the Sellplague.



That's very true, but the nice thing about BattleTech is that the game itself relies very little on canon since it's mostly a wargame*. Ironically, whenever I play, I seem to develop a very bad Scottish accent which has led to death by 'friendly fire' on occasion. Read too many Gray Death Legion and Northwind Highlander novels...



*Yes, there is a RPG set in the universe, but when you can stomp around in 100 ton mechs, why do you want to emote your feelings?



I've played the minis game, but it's the BattleTech fiction that got me into it. I liked the fiction a lot more than the game.

Oh, and the Dice Gods hate me playing BattleTech, too. More than once, I've tried an alpha strike with 3+ weapons, and only had the smallest one hit, and there was once I had all five weapons miss, when I only needed to roll a 7 or better! When you barely move and still can't hit with pulse weapons, a targeting computer, and close range, then you're playing the wrong game.

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Sounds like when I played B5 Miniatures...

I was the Centauri - you know... the guys with a gazillion guns on their massive ships...

And I'd do a 'fly by' and only 1-2 of my 300 guns* would score!

Its seems the only time I ever roll well is when I'm the DM, much to the chagrin of my players.



*Thats a bit of an exagerration - I think it as closer to 37 or some-such. Still, lousy hit ration considering the sheer numbers.

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I rolled three straight 1s on a hand grenade toss while playing Gamma World. We still haven't found that die. I slung it across the room so hard, I think it entered hyperspace.

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Its seems the only time I ever roll well is when I'm the DM, much to the chagrin of my players.


Sounds like our DM. His wife is wiccan, and I regularly accuse her of performing dark rites on his dice. It doesn't help that she's offered him sexual favors for each character kill.

Hell, I got a shoulder rub from her just for getting into negative hit points this past Sunday. My little rogue may have to start tanking.

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During the very first sesssion of the last campaign I ran, wherein I was teaching the game to four new players, I rolled three crtitcal hits in a row!

Rather then slaughter the PCs and make the kids hate the game, I had to 'fudge' things, and a DMPC barged in and killed the baddies.

During a later session, I realized that was a mistake - they took a naturally dislkie to the DMPC (who was an important NPC to my story-arc, before I had to throw him in early to save their butts) and refused to work with him.

When I eventually told them why he (and I) did what 'we' did, I was shocked to find out they would have preferred dying to being 'upstaged'.

Go figure... next time I just allow the TPK.

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I go easy on the kids, but I don't tell them. My wife told me when I first started running games for our kids that I wasn't allowed to kill their characters. If they knew that was the rule, though, it wouldn't be as much fun for them. Ironically, the seven yr old boy would probably take having a character killed in stride, but the 12 yr old girl would be devastated. Consequently, he likes combat, and she likes "tea parties" (i.e., roleplaying). I don't know how they became so stereotypically gendered with a dad who stays home and keeps house and a mom who earns all the money, but there ya go.



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I tried that...

My wife threw me out.

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Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart

quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

I'd also watch the Drizzt cartoon... and probably hate myself for it.



Dude, I watched the BattleTech cartoon. And then they made it CANON.

Slight correction there, Ashe. Only parts of the BT animated series are canon. Certain characters, places, etc. There are other aspects that were either too wild or simply too difficult to fit accurately into canon.

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Sounds like our very own Double-Diamond series, some of which has become canon, and the rest was just too... wild.

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Originally posted by The Sage

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Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart

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I'd also watch the Drizzt cartoon... and probably hate myself for it.



Dude, I watched the BattleTech cartoon. And then they made it CANON.

Slight correction there, Ashe. Only parts of the BT animated series are canon. Certain characters, places, etc. There are other aspects that were either too wild or simply too difficult to fit accurately into canon.



And at least one element of it -- Franklin Sakamoto -- was drawn from existing BattleTech lore. It's a very small passage in Heir to the Dragon.

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Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart

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Originally posted by Markustay

I'd also watch the Drizzt cartoon... and probably hate myself for it.



Dude, I watched the BattleTech cartoon. And then they made it CANON.

Slight correction there, Ashe. Only parts of the BT animated series are canon. Certain characters, places, etc. There are other aspects that were either too wild or simply too difficult to fit accurately into canon.



And at least one element of it -- Franklin Sakamoto -- was drawn from existing BattleTech lore. It's a very small passage in Heir to the Dragon.

I also think Franklin Sakamoto was referenced elsewhere too. I just can't recall the source at the moment.

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Originally posted by The Sage

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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

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Originally posted by The Sage

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Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart

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Originally posted by Markustay

I'd also watch the Drizzt cartoon... and probably hate myself for it.



Dude, I watched the BattleTech cartoon. And then they made it CANON.

Slight correction there, Ashe. Only parts of the BT animated series are canon. Certain characters, places, etc. There are other aspects that were either too wild or simply too difficult to fit accurately into canon.



And at least one element of it -- Franklin Sakamoto -- was drawn from existing BattleTech lore. It's a very small passage in Heir to the Dragon.

I also think Franklin Sakamoto was referenced elsewhere too. I just can't recall the source at the moment.



I believe it was in the Black Dragon Society books. They were planning on using him to take the Kurita throne.

I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 13 Feb 2009 :  14:19:56  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart

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Originally posted by The Sage

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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

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Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart

quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

I'd also watch the Drizzt cartoon... and probably hate myself for it.



Dude, I watched the BattleTech cartoon. And then they made it CANON.

Slight correction there, Ashe. Only parts of the BT animated series are canon. Certain characters, places, etc. There are other aspects that were either too wild or simply too difficult to fit accurately into canon.



And at least one element of it -- Franklin Sakamoto -- was drawn from existing BattleTech lore. It's a very small passage in Heir to the Dragon.

I also think Franklin Sakamoto was referenced elsewhere too. I just can't recall the source at the moment.



I believe it was in the Black Dragon Society books. They were planning on using him to take the Kurita throne.



That was an "after" reference, though. I was referring to the fact that Franklin existed in BT canon before the cartoon came out.

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Yeah, Wooly has the right of it. I'm fairly certain he was mentioned in both Heir to the Dragon and a scenario pack. Which one, I don't recall at the moment.

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Have we delved completely into the realm of Battletech? Heir to the Dragon sounds like it could be a Realms article or something, but the context seems to indicate that it is Battletech.

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Posted - 13 Feb 2009 :  18:21:50  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Have we delved completely into the realm of Battletech? Heir to the Dragon sounds like it could be a Realms article or something, but the context seems to indicate that it is Battletech.



It was one of the early BattleTech novels; the main character, Theodore Kurita, is heir to the rulership of the Draconis Combine, a nation that emulates feudal Japan and uses a stylized dragon as its emblem.

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Have we delved completely into the realm of Battletech? Heir to the Dragon sounds like it could be a Realms article or something, but the context seems to indicate that it is Battletech.



It was one of the early BattleTech novels; the main character, Theodore Kurita, is heir to the rulership of the Draconis Combine, a nation that emulates feudal Japan and uses a stylized dragon as its emblem.

And, just to finish off this significant side-track before we head back into canon territory, I'll note that Heir to the Dragon is usually considered one of the best BT novels ever written.

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