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Genis
Learned Scribe
USA
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 Posted - 06 Dec 2008 : 10:48:43
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This may not be entirerly the correct category to place this thread into but so I was looking at a map of the realms the other day and low and behold there is an actually candlekeep on the sword coast or whatever...may it be my never ending ignorance but I was under the impression candlekeep was more or less fictional "applying to the realms that is" and didn't exist in the actually setting or whatever. I had assumed it was a made up library/inn for people like us to hang out in...but like I said, to my suprise and excitement its not, it was on the map.
Mod Edit: Shifted to a more appropriate shelf.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 06 Dec 2008 : 11:14:18
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Candlekeep is indeed a real location within the Realms. 'Twas originally Alaundo's citadel, and his followers maintained it after his death.
You can learn more about Candlekeep in Volo's Guide to the Sword Coast, "Introduction to Candlekeep" by Ed Greenwood [on Candlekeep.com's Main Site], the 1993 Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting, and "Candlekeep: Bringing the Fabled Castle to Life" [from DRAGON #255]. The latter article is based on the treatment in the Baldur's Gate CRPG, which is isn't canonical [though, note that BG novels are], but the information is decent and unlikely to be contradicted in the near future.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 06 Dec 2008 : 14:53:36
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| Candlekeep has been in a couple of novels, too. I think Elfshadow may have been the first novel it appeared in. |
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Brynweir
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 06 Dec 2008 : 14:57:56
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Candlekeep has been in a couple of novels, too. I think Elfshadow may have been the first novel it appeared in.
Indeed. I like the description and role of Candlekeep in Crucible: The Trial of Cyric the Mad. Those Cyricists just LOVE the keepers of knowledge  . |
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He also started a new Trilogy with Black Prism, which may even surpass the Night Angel Trilogy in its awesomeness.
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Gelcur
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 06 Dec 2008 : 15:02:28
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| If I remember my lore correctly, there is also a myth of a duplicate library hidden away somewhere else in the Realms. Maintained as a back up. |
The party come to a town befallen by hysteria
Rogue: So what's in the general store?
DM: What are you looking for?
Rogue: Whatevers in the store.
DM: Like what?
Rogue: Everything.
DM: There is a lot of stuff.
Rogue: Is there a cart outside?
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Sian
Senior Scribe
Denmark
596 Posts |
Posted - 06 Dec 2008 : 21:54:42
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| ... one of my former characters was a N Elvish Diviner/lorekeeper which was mad at the ruling body of Candlekeep for not being open enough about letting people borrow and read thier books and was running around most of the northwesten part of Faerun under different aliases trying to install hatred against Candlekeep, and get his hands on books for opening a rivaling Library ... he wasn't to shy away from anything if it lowered the status of Candlekeep or ment that he could get more books for his (to be opened) rivaling Library, which would have much more lax rules ... the books is at the moment placed in a couple of modified "portable Hole"s, which is modified the way that you can get the book you want just the same way as the Harvy Handy Heaversack works |
what happened to the queen? she's much more hysterical than usual
She's a women, it happens once a month |
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
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Posted - 06 Dec 2008 : 22:16:47
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Not to mention, of course, that Baldur's Gate (the computer game) starts off in Candlekeep and makes a substantial detour there at one point.
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
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Posted - 07 Dec 2008 : 01:12:43
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I haven't seen Alaundo post in this scroll.
Anyhow, I found a mention somwhere that there are FOUR great libraries in the Realms - it may have been in the info on the one in Impiltur - and Candlekeep was just one of those four (and the most famous).
In my homebrew lore, I have it where the library of Perpustakaan (Ronin Challege) is the secret, back-up library for Candlekeep. It is an enormous repository of the TRUE history of the Shou Empire (most of which is hidden or changed in the 'official histories'), and contains every bit of knowledge accumulated in Shou-Lung's long history. Coupling that old piece of canon lore with the new stuff about Anok-Imaskar, that means that there is probably quite a lot in there regarding Imaskar as well.
It's so secret, even the Shou Empire is unaware of it (and yet the scholars there still somehow maintain an up-to-date record of things).
Thats all canon - I only added the part about it being 'Candlekeep East', because it just fits so well.  |
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Ayunken-vanzan
Senior Scribe
Germany
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Posted - 07 Dec 2008 : 07:25:45
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Most interesting. The secret "mirror library" is mentioned in the FRCS without more specific information, so your lore may be actually be very close to real facts.  |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 08 Dec 2008 : 14:14:58
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quote:
Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
Not to mention, of course, that Baldur's Gate (the computer game) starts off in Candlekeep and makes a substantial detour there at one point.
Cheers
Yup, the PC of that game grew up in Candlekeep, so for him or her, it's home. |
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 08 Dec 2008 : 14:41:01
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
Not to mention, of course, that Baldur's Gate (the computer game) starts off in Candlekeep and makes a substantial detour there at one point.
Cheers
Yup, the PC of that game grew up in Candlekeep, so for him or her, it's home.
Now that you mention it, that effected how I played the character. I based the roleplaying choices in the game off a naive librarian-type. Even though he was technically a ranger... |
I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 08 Dec 2008 : 14:47:18
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| That kind of background does let you assume your character had a top-notch education. |
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 09 Dec 2008 : 01:06:57
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| Also, in the 3.5 adventure Anauroch (which follows Cormyr and Shadowdale), it suggests a visit to Candlekeep, with some information provided. |
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Lord Karsus
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