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 The question says it all. What version do you normally play now? 1st? 2nd? 3rd? 3.5? 4th? 
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                       -I'll just put it out there, I don't think that 3e and 3.5e are different enough to warrant two separate categories. Many people just call it 3.Xe, because of that. 3e and 3.5e are virtually similar, and for the most part, 3.5e contains only minor differences. I, myself, play using the 3.5e PHB, and the 3e DMG and MM. The major differences are easily resolvable (ie, Survival is Wilderness Survival, and vice versa).
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                       There should probably be an option for those of us who, like myself, utilise a diverse rules set deriving particular mechanics from most editions of the D&D rules, non-D&D specific rule systems [like the MECHWARRIOR RPG for example], and homebrew rules.
  Though, on second thought, that could probably be covered by the "Other System" option. | 
                     
                    
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                      |  What about variants of an edition, such as Pathfinder's update of 3.5e rules? | 
                     
                    
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                      |  I put 4th, but I still utilize source materials for lore from all editions. | 
                     
                    
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                       I voted for 3.5E.  I don't think it's "better" than the other editions, it's just what I'm playing.  | 
                     
                    
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                      |  I use Castles and Crusades, which is a nice combo of 1e and 3e. | 
                     
                    
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                      |  2.0 with a little 3.0 mixed in... | 
                     
                    
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                      |  Currently 3.5E but planning to switch to 4E for the "lazy" group where the players don't like doing any out-of-game preparation or planning. | 
                     
                    
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                      |  Playing 3.5, but looking at starting 3.P (Pathfinder) once the current campaign is over. Players didn't want to convert what we started to the new ruleset, but rather when we start anew. | 
                     
                    
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                       Voted 3.5, since that's what we've played for about a year and a half, but would go back to 2e in a minute if I could get a group willing to...
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                       I voted 3.5, even though my own version diverge quite a bit from that system.  It could be said that it is based upon it, but is an fact greatly enhanced and geared towards realism, good roleplaying and so forth. 
  Unlike the 4th edition and it's focus on "the PC's rock the world, and are at Rambo-level skill from the 1st level", in my version, the NPC's are actually at no disadvantage whatsoever against the PC's. But of course, there are elite warriors, and then there are civilians....
  My point is; If someone is "good" at something, he will be it because the system says so, not by being favoured by some silly "PC's Only" perk. Then again, some of the PC's are special, as are some NPC's.  
 
 
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                      |  I voted 4E because I am currently active in three campaigns that are 4E but I have a few 3.5 campaigns that I plan on continuing. | 
                     
                    
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                      |  I've only played 2E, myself... That said, I've more than a passing familiarity with 3.5E, and I think that, despite some issues here and there (particularly with cantrips, which no version has matched to the flavor), 3.5 is the best. | 
                     
                    
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                       quote: Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
  I've only played 2E, myself... That said, I've more than a passing familiarity with 3.5E, and I think that, despite some issues here and there (particularly with cantrips, which no version has matched to the flavor), 3.5 is the best.
 
   [broken record]Have you looked at Pathfinder?[/broken record]
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                       quote: Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart
 
 quote: Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
  I've only played 2E, myself... That said, I've more than a passing familiarity with 3.5E, and I think that, despite some issues here and there (particularly with cantrips, which no version has matched to the flavor), 3.5 is the best.
 
   [broken record]Have you looked at Pathfinder?[/broken record]
  Seriously though, they made Cantrips and Orisons at-will abilities for the casters so they don't have to memorize them each day.
 
  
  Did they? I was not aware of that -- I've downloaded the rules, but obviously not looked into them in any detail. Of late, the rules I've been reading have all been Warmachine.   | 
                     
                    
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                       Correction, I'm rereading the stuff now.
  Clerics/Druids memorize X number of Orisons a day, but cast them at-will throughout the day as spell-like abilities. Rangers and Paladins don't know 0-level orisons, so they don't get them.
  Sorcerers/Bards only know a limited number of Cantrips (0-level), but again can cast them at-will as spell-like abilities.
  A Wizard can memorize X number of Cantrips a day and cast them at-will as spell-like abilities.
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                       I like to use 1E for the World of Greyhawk: they were designed along with each other and work perfectly together.
  I like to use 2E for the Realms, because 3E's bells and whistles (and pedantic accounting of bonuses and damage types) don't fit how I like to play RPGs, though I've played and DMed in 3E. Also because the fullest and most direct rules-depiction of Realms magic is in 2E, with VGATM and Ed's many spells.
  Yes, 3E ought to be one edition for this poll; 3.5 is no more a distinct edition than, say, the original Unearthed Arcana. | 
                     
                    
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                      |  my own, it's mostly based on 3e, but all other editions and systems, particularly 2e are good for scrapping | 
                     
                    
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                      |  My current D&D campaign uses the 3.5 core rules mixed with some 3e. | 
                     
                    
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                      |  Right now  2nd Edition.... | 
                     
                    
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                       -3E for now, eventually 4E. I do want to try an E-6, 3E game.  
 
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                       It's been a while since I was last here, so nice to see a good turnout. Interesting results so far. 3.5 is way out front with 2nd coming in a far second.      I put other systems in there as a general term to encompass pretty much everything other than AD&D as I was specifically interested in what everyone's main rules version was. I think it goes without saying that everyone augments the rules with something. I know I do.      To prove my point, I have to admit, I mispoke in the earlier post when I said I play exclusively 2nd Ed. What I meant to say was when I play AD&D, I play pretty much 2nd, with a touch of 1st and 3rd(aprrox 80/10/10). I primarily run a Rolemaster 2nd Ed campaign, with a bunch of stuff from all over thrown in, from 2nd Ed. Psionics to Cthulhu mythos(all converted).      I don't know about this Pathfinder as I haven't heard about it until now. Is it authorized like Eberron, or an 'unauthorized' variant, like all those various D20 books of yore?  Care to help a fellow scribe out and give a point in the right direction?   | 
                     
                    
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                       quote: Originally posted by Fillow
  I began with the AD&D version, when my parents sent me to the boarding school.  I was 14 years old if my memory does not fail, so in year 1988 !  Whoo ! I forgot I was so old... Who asked this stupid question?...  
 
  
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                       I voted "Other" - although I guess I should have said "1st Edition" as my home-brew is based on 1E more than any other (with favorite bits from 2E, 3E , C&C (& just a tad from Hackmaster & the D&D Rules Compendium).  | 
                     
                    
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                       quote: Originally posted by Yasraena
  It's been a while since I was last here, so nice to see a good turnout. Interesting results so far. 3.5 is way out front with 2nd coming in a far second.      I put other systems in there as a general term to encompass pretty much everything other than AD&D as I was specifically interested in what everyone's main rules version was. I think it goes without saying that everyone augments the rules with something. I know I do.      To prove my point, I have to admit, I mispoke in the earlier post when I said I play exclusively 2nd Ed. What I meant to say was when I play AD&D, I play pretty much 2nd, with a touch of 1st and 3rd(aprrox 80/10/10). I primarily run a Rolemaster 2nd Ed campaign, with a bunch of stuff from all over thrown in, from 2nd Ed. Psionics to Cthulhu mythos(all converted).      I don't know about this Pathfinder as I haven't heard about it until now. Is it authorized like Eberron, or an 'unauthorized' variant, like all those various D20 books of yore?  Care to help a fellow scribe out and give a point in the right direction?  
 
   http://forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11380  Follow the link in the thread it should explain everything. Paizo is staying 3.5, or you could call it 3P.  
 
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                       quote: Originally posted by Yasraena
 
  I don't know about this Pathfinder as I haven't heard about it until now. Is it authorized like Eberron, or an 'unauthorized' variant, like all those various D20 books of yore?  Care to help a fellow scribe out and give a point in the right direction?  
 
  
  The Pathfinder rules (which are in open Beta) can be downloaded for free from Paizo.com -- the same company that published the final print issues of Dungeon and Dragon.
  Because of the Open Gaming License and all that stuff that came out with 3E D&D, pretty much anyone can make D20 games using WotC's ruleset as a starting point. So long as they don't sign up to do 4E stuff (the GSL has a clause about abandoning older versions), they can keep doing 3.x stuff forever. That's the way WotC wrote the OGL -- so anyone publishing other D20 stuff is technically authorized, even if they aren't WotC.
  What Paizo is doing with Pathfinder is starting with the published rules of 3.5, and tweaking them and cleaning them up to remove problems and make them even more playable. Their willingness to listen to fans has gained them a lot of support from people angry at WotC, and they've captured a large portion of the fanbase that's unwilling to go to 4E.
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                       Don't forget that they are getting a lot of freelancers like Elaine, Ed, Skip & Monte to help out as well.
  And I can't believe that Brimstone or Wooly forgot to put a link for their site: Pathfinder products.
  They have subscriptions on Adventure Paths and the like. AP's come out once a month and are standalone adventures that are part of a 6 issue mini-campaign. High-quality and worth every penny, IMHO. | 
                     
                    
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                       quote: Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart
  And I can't believe that Brimstone or Wooly forgot to put a link for their site: Pathfinder products.
  
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                      |  I think Paizo is exactly what Wizards needs. COMPETITION. This way, they "should" strive to improve their products, which in turn "should" make Paizo work that much harder to come out with better products, and again make Wizards work that much harder also (going back and forth) - hopefully in the end, the gamers (of either system) win. | 
                     
                    
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