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sleyvas
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Posted - 19 Feb 2022 :  01:31:21  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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So in relation to your question, I have never detailed Auseriel in any way. No one has officially to my knowledge. WotC used to have a general policy that specific creations of particular authors were "left alone" by other writers. At least mostly. At that time, Elaine was slated to revisit Auseriel in her writing and so it never received any official attention.

Given that Salvatore has now gone with the idea of a good drow city in the frozen North I expect that Auseriel will never be mentioned again by WotC. So the good news is that you have free rein to do what you like with it.

-- George Krashos



This is sad to me on so many levels (the main being that Elaine was slated to revisit it and won't now). Part of me also wants to find out what Salvatore is doing with that city for myself, just to try and keep in the know.... but the other part of me doesn't want to read all the novels that I'm still behind in in his series. Think the last one I read they went to Gauntlgrym and found the sleeping primordial.



Yeah, Gauntlgrym. Boy, is that a major headache at the moment in terms of trying to reconcile this place in the historical narrative with the various sources. We are many hours in and still going.

— George Krashos



I forget the exactly storyline of the original neverwinter nights (think that was the name), but I remember it having the sarrukh having some kind of involvement with the heat source of Neverwinter. Granted computer games aren't canonical... and honestly, I can't remember what that plot was anymore... but I was surprised to hear they were possibly changing the heat source.

Alavairthae, may your skill prevail

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ericlboyd
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Posted - 19 Feb 2022 :  02:31:23  Show Profile  Visit ericlboyd's Homepage Send ericlboyd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by sleyvas

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Originally posted by George Krashos

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Originally posted by sleyvas

quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos
So in relation to your question, I have never detailed Auseriel in any way. No one has officially to my knowledge. WotC used to have a general policy that specific creations of particular authors were "left alone" by other writers. At least mostly. At that time, Elaine was slated to revisit Auseriel in her writing and so it never received any official attention.

Given that Salvatore has now gone with the idea of a good drow city in the frozen North I expect that Auseriel will never be mentioned again by WotC. So the good news is that you have free rein to do what you like with it.

-- George Krashos



This is sad to me on so many levels (the main being that Elaine was slated to revisit it and won't now). Part of me also wants to find out what Salvatore is doing with that city for myself, just to try and keep in the know.... but the other part of me doesn't want to read all the novels that I'm still behind in in his series. Think the last one I read they went to Gauntlgrym and found the sleeping primordial.



Yeah, Gauntlgrym. Boy, is that a major headache at the moment in terms of trying to reconcile this place in the historical narrative with the various sources. We are many hours in and still going.

— George Krashos



I forget the exactly storyline of the original neverwinter nights (think that was the name), but I remember it having the sarrukh having some kind of involvement with the heat source of Neverwinter. Granted computer games aren't canonical... and honestly, I can't remember what that plot was anymore... but I was surprised to hear they were possibly changing the heat source.



I think it actually had "Old Ones" who were a lot like sarrukh, but not specifically named as such. They were detailed for 3.5e in one of the "Silicon Sorcery" columns in Dragon.

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sleyvas
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Originally posted by sleyvas

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Originally posted by sleyvas

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Originally posted by George Krashos
So in relation to your question, I have never detailed Auseriel in any way. No one has officially to my knowledge. WotC used to have a general policy that specific creations of particular authors were "left alone" by other writers. At least mostly. At that time, Elaine was slated to revisit Auseriel in her writing and so it never received any official attention.

Given that Salvatore has now gone with the idea of a good drow city in the frozen North I expect that Auseriel will never be mentioned again by WotC. So the good news is that you have free rein to do what you like with it.

-- George Krashos



This is sad to me on so many levels (the main being that Elaine was slated to revisit it and won't now). Part of me also wants to find out what Salvatore is doing with that city for myself, just to try and keep in the know.... but the other part of me doesn't want to read all the novels that I'm still behind in in his series. Think the last one I read they went to Gauntlgrym and found the sleeping primordial.



Yeah, Gauntlgrym. Boy, is that a major headache at the moment in terms of trying to reconcile this place in the historical narrative with the various sources. We are many hours in and still going.

— George Krashos



I forget the exactly storyline of the original neverwinter nights (think that was the name), but I remember it having the sarrukh having some kind of involvement with the heat source of Neverwinter. Granted computer games aren't canonical... and honestly, I can't remember what that plot was anymore... but I was surprised to hear they were possibly changing the heat source.



I think it actually had "Old Ones" who were a lot like sarrukh, but not specifically named as such. They were detailed for 3.5e in one of the "Silicon Sorcery" columns in Dragon.



Thank you for that. So, Dragon #303 labels them "Creator Race" and shows them as very lizardfolk like... could just as easily be a variation on dragonborn if one wanted to twist it that way, or saurials too. But definitely NOT snake bottomed, gives them bonuses to arcane spellcasting of sorts, and their clawed hands are inordinately large

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TheIriaeban
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Posted - 20 Feb 2022 :  16:02:47  Show Profile Send TheIriaeban a Private Message  Reply with Quote
George, I've looked through the stuff I have and I cannot find any references to a place called Fort Helm. On the FRWiki entry for the Bridge of Fallen Men, it is on the map to the WNW of Proskur. Could you check your extensive notes to see if you have any information about it? Combined with Stormhawk (Power of Faerun) and the Sign of the Silver Harp (Code of the Harpers), that is the only other location I have seen near Proskur.

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ericlboyd
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Posted - 20 Feb 2022 :  23:05:46  Show Profile  Visit ericlboyd's Homepage Send ericlboyd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Yeah, Gauntlgrym. Boy, is that a major headache at the moment in terms of trying to reconcile this place in the historical narrative with the various sources. We are many hours in and still going.

— George Krashos



Victory!!! It's a little strange, but it all works.

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AJA
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Posted - 21 Feb 2022 :  04:05:14  Show Profile Send AJA a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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It's a little strange, but it all works.

The Forgotten Realms has many taglines, but this here just might be one of my favorites.


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George Krashos
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Posted - 21 Feb 2022 :  10:05:51  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by TheIriaeban

George, I've looked through the stuff I have and I cannot find any references to a place called Fort Helm. On the FRWiki entry for the Bridge of Fallen Men, it is on the map to the WNW of Proskur. Could you check your extensive notes to see if you have any information about it? Combined with Stormhawk (Power of Faerun) and the Sign of the Silver Harp (Code of the Harpers), that is the only other location I have seen near Proskur.



It's from the map in the "Backdrop - Cormyr" article in Dragon #365 by Brian R James. He liked putting locations on maps and not providing any detail on the locations (or if he did, he overwrote and it got cut in editing). He did the same thing in his "Backdrop - Vaasa" article in Dungeon #117, his "Backdrop - Chessenta" article in Dungeon #178, and his "Backdrop - Sarifal" article in Dragon #376. It was kind of his thing.

-- George Krashos

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TheIriaeban
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Posted - 21 Feb 2022 :  15:39:12  Show Profile Send TheIriaeban a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by George Krashos

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Originally posted by TheIriaeban

George, I've looked through the stuff I have and I cannot find any references to a place called Fort Helm. On the FRWiki entry for the Bridge of Fallen Men, it is on the map to the WNW of Proskur. Could you check your extensive notes to see if you have any information about it? Combined with Stormhawk (Power of Faerun) and the Sign of the Silver Harp (Code of the Harpers), that is the only other location I have seen near Proskur.



It's from the map in the "Backdrop - Cormyr" article in Dragon #365 by Brian R James. He liked putting locations on maps and not providing any detail on the locations (or if he did, he overwrote and it got cut in editing). He did the same thing in his "Backdrop - Vaasa" article in Dungeon #117, his "Backdrop - Chessenta" article in Dungeon #178, and his "Backdrop - Sarifal" article in Dragon #376. It was kind of his thing.

-- George Krashos



Thank you very much. That lets me know I have a free hand in what to do with it without fear of stepping on established lore.

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TheIriaeban
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George, as a seeming keeper of languages, how are you with Gnim? I am looking for the gnome word for "Trailcloud". I figure, being an exacting sort of people, that is what they would call a chamber that had several Trail of Mists nexuses (nexi?). I am working on that Trail of Mists map and have need of that term now. I have some of the Sword Coast mapped out with there being a "Trailcloud" under the Citadel of Mists and the gnome settlement in the northern part of the Trielta Hills named Hulnimerle. There are some "bad stops" also like Warlock's Crypt and Arghenrock (both used to be gnome settlements per Ed).

"Iriaebor is a fine city. So what if you can have violence between merchant groups break out at any moment. Not every city can offer dinner AND a show."

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George Krashos
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Posted - 28 Jun 2022 :  09:10:32  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by TheIriaeban

George, as a seeming keeper of languages, how are you with Gnim? I am looking for the gnome word for "Trailcloud". I figure, being an exacting sort of people, that is what they would call a chamber that had several Trail of Mists nexuses (nexi?). I am working on that Trail of Mists map and have need of that term now. I have some of the Sword Coast mapped out with there being a "Trailcloud" under the Citadel of Mists and the gnome settlement in the northern part of the Trielta Hills named Hulnimerle. There are some "bad stops" also like Warlock's Crypt and Arghenrock (both used to be gnome settlements per Ed).



I can't help you with "trail cloud" in Gnomish as that lexicon remains rudimentary. You're going to have to ask the big man himself.

Oh, and the Gnomish word for their language is "Munthar", not "Gnim".

-- George Krashos

"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus

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TheIriaeban
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Posted - 28 Jun 2022 :  14:42:35  Show Profile Send TheIriaeban a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

quote:
Originally posted by TheIriaeban

George, as a seeming keeper of languages, how are you with Gnim? I am looking for the gnome word for "Trailcloud". I figure, being an exacting sort of people, that is what they would call a chamber that had several Trail of Mists nexuses (nexi?). I am working on that Trail of Mists map and have need of that term now. I have some of the Sword Coast mapped out with there being a "Trailcloud" under the Citadel of Mists and the gnome settlement in the northern part of the Trielta Hills named Hulnimerle. There are some "bad stops" also like Warlock's Crypt and Arghenrock (both used to be gnome settlements per Ed).



I can't help you with "trail cloud" in Gnomish as that lexicon remains rudimentary. You're going to have to ask the big man himself.

Oh, and the Gnomish word for their language is "Munthar", not "Gnim".

-- George Krashos



T'anks, Doc. I am off to see the wizard!

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TomCosta
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Posted - 28 Jun 2022 :  21:49:36  Show Profile Send TomCosta a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Gnim, I believe was the word I came up with in my language article lo those many years ago.
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TheIriaeban
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Posted - 29 Jun 2022 :  00:25:31  Show Profile Send TheIriaeban a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If you look in the FR Wiki, it says Gnim (and it references your Dragon mag language article). Munthar came from Ed in one of his many answers to questions here on Candlekeep. I have Munthar in my gnome notes, or gnotes, but Gnim is easier to remember. I take it as the Common name for the gnome language while Ed said that Munthar is what the gnomes themselves call it. Kinda like how English speakers say German for the language while Germans call it Deutsch.

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TomCosta
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Posted - 29 Jun 2022 :  14:38:45  Show Profile Send TomCosta a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I was thinking the same thing Iriaeban.
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TheIriaeban
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George, I have another obscure language question for you: How are you with Talfiric? I am finding that including festivals based on the Talfir people and their history is putting me in the position of creating all kinds of words. Before I get too far along, I would just like to confirm with you that there isn't really much known about the Talfiric language beyond that it is "Greekish" and influenced by Draconic (that is from FR Wiki). As an example of what I have, I have that they called Shantel Othreier the "Shadowy Forest". By combining Draconic with Greek, I have come up with Skichaesos as the Talfiran name.

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George Krashos
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Posted - 27 Aug 2022 :  07:53:16  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TheIriaeban

George, I have another obscure language question for you: How are you with Talfiric? I am finding that including festivals based on the Talfir people and their history is putting me in the position of creating all kinds of words. Before I get too far along, I would just like to confirm with you that there isn't really much known about the Talfiric language beyond that it is "Greekish" and influenced by Draconic (that is from FR Wiki). As an example of what I have, I have that they called Shantel Othreier the "Shadowy Forest". By combining Draconic with Greek, I have come up with Skichaesos as the Talfiran name.



Well the Talfir were created by Mark Anthony for his Harper series novels. He provided some Talfir words/phrases which I've rendered as follows:

altaro = year
dala = book, tome
eb = of the
ki = on the (usually written as k')
mai = shadows, twilight (also 'mal' in some dialects/translations)
sai = nature, personality
telkadra = lion

I'm of Greek background, and they don't sound too Greek to me. And I'd steer clear of a too obvious Earth analogue, but your word needs some re-working given the above.

-- George Krashos

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TheIriaeban
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Posted - 27 Aug 2022 :  19:53:37  Show Profile Send TheIriaeban a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks. You are amazing.

Dropping the Greek connection and just staying with the Draconic angle, I have come up with the following:

alt (alt) = day
atar (UH-tar) = tomorrow
ces (ses) = tree
cesro (SES-ro) = forest
dalaroi (dahla-ROY) = library (basically)
ere (air) = through or continuation
iarho (i-AR-ho) = dance
ir (eer) = in the or within or enclosed by
hend (hend) = food
pesk (pesk) = storm
rhos (rhos) = unknown or not familiar
ruha (roo-HAH) = valley
Talf (TAHLF)= The People
Talis (TAHL-iss) = The Vision or The Foresight
vari (vahree) = dance
xen (zin) = fire

Talfir Cesmai (TALF-eer CES-mi) = The People Within the Tree Shadows today shorted to just The People Within (Talfir)
Maircesro (mair-SES-ro) = Shantel Othreier
Xenpesk (ZIN-pesk)= The raging fire/firestorm that destroyed Maircesro
Henderatar (hender-UH-tar) = Winter solstice festival originally celebrating survival of Xenpesk but now just a feast celebrating life/survival in general
Iarhoebrhos (i-AR-ho-EB-rhos) = Masked ball thrown by the Iriaeben oldcoin family Moonmoss (half-elven)
Ruharho (roo-HA-rho) = Festival held at Greengrass celebrating the fertility of the Chionthar river valley and surrounding area

Edit: Added pronunciations (I hope in a clear way).

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George Krashos
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Posted - 28 Aug 2022 :  02:08:11  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I love made up words as much as anyone but it's important to think of pronunciation. The letter "x" is usually challenging in that regard, as are vowel combinations and silent letters. These are made up - people don't have the language imprint of hearing the words everyday and write them down, to rely on. So my questions to you is how would you pronounce your words above, and if the pronunciation doesn't fold well into the phonetic layout of the word, you might consider making changes. I have no idea how you intend readers to pronounce "iaerhoebrhos", "ruharho" etc.

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TheIriaeban
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Posted - 28 Aug 2022 :  15:29:59  Show Profile Send TheIriaeban a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Fair enough. They are based on Draconic so I would guess similar to that. The Draconic dictionary FRWiki article that I used doesn't have anything about pronunciation so I will edit my above posting with what I was sounding out while making them. I haven't tried anything like this before so hopefully it will be clear.

Edit: On second thought, not pronounced like Draconic. There would have been significant drift in the language for the canon words in Talfiric to be so different from the base languange.

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TheIriaeban
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George, in your lexicon for Alzhedo, would you happen to have the following words?

tower
blue
stone
fire
magic

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George Krashos
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Posted - 19 Mar 2023 :  03:13:05  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TheIriaeban

George, in your lexicon for Alzhedo, would you happen to have the following words?

tower
blue
stone
fire
magic




Tower = erat
Fire = nar
Blue = ayn

The only ones I don't have are stone and magic.

If I had to make them up, I would make "ranar" magic ("ranil" is a spell, "ranardin" would be wizard/mage) and "hanir" is stone (rough). Worked/crafted stone is "hanid".

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TheIriaeban
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Thank you very much. Based on what you have there I have come up with the following:

"hanar"(HAYN-ar) is stone that has been worked by magic
"raynar"(RAYEN-ar) is bluefire magic. This is NOT Bluefire. It is instead referencing a term for a type of magic (or magical tradition) going all the way back to the janni that first inhabited the lands of Calimshan.

So, to name a tower made from stone created/worked by the bluefire magic tradition would be:

Raynar'Hanerat (RAYEN-ar-HAIN-eerat)

Please let me know if that violates any Alzhedo word structure or uses any pre-existing Alzhedo words.

Edit: Added in pronunciation and fixed typo.

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George, love all your posts on Impiltur. I would love to hear your thoughts on what has happened in Impiltur at the start of 5e. Lets say 1490DR is the current year, and the boy king never came to power and the different families continued to jockey for a chance at the throne but no single house has managed to get close and the Council is now more or less being controlled by various "new blood/new money" wealthy people and the country has continued to decline in terms of the Triadic Orders and such. Taking into account the waters have risen, the second sundering has happened, etc., I imagine the country has all but dissolved back into independent city states in practice and are only part of a "nation" in name. What houses would most likely be left in a position to make a play for the throne or would the nation become something more like Sembia where "the wealthy" make the rules and the working class becomes more and more desperate? I also imagine maybe Impiltur being on the edge of a kind of industrial / steampunkish place. I mean flying ships and machines are in the realms now I imagine steampunk is not too much of a stretch. What would flying ships do to trade in and around the Sea of Fallen Stars. Would Damara finally be able to trade with anyone instead of having to pass through Impiltur? Would flying ships become a powerful military tool for the first inner sea nation to start producing them? If Sonelion "disappears" during the second sundering what kind of change would that make in Impiltur to no longer be under her influence? Anyway I would love to get some ideas from you on possible directions to take Impiltur in 5e.
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I've had some random thoughts about the post Spelllplague Impiltur, but nothing that anyone could describe as detailed. I think the 4E FR Campaign Book and the mention in the SCAG gives an idea that it's devolved back into rival city-states. I confess I'm not a fan of steampunk - I'm a boring, traditional, high fantasy Tolkien type - so I definitely don't have any thoughts in that direction. In reality, the state of the 5E Realms one hundred miles east of the Sword Coast is anyone's guess and in such a massive vacuum, it's very difficult to come up with stuff without adding scaffolding all around it. So that makes it a big job from the perspective of where I work on the Realms. So, I haven't mapped out 5E Impiltur. I may never map it out. But guess what? You are just as much an expert on 5E Impiltur as I am. Go have some fun with the place.

-- George Krashos

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Rhufus
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quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

I've had some random thoughts about the post Spelllplague Impiltur, but nothing that anyone could describe as detailed. I think the 4E FR Campaign Book and the mention in the SCAG gives an idea that it's devolved back into rival city-states. I confess I'm not a fan of steampunk - I'm a boring, traditional, high fantasy Tolkien type - so I definitely don't have any thoughts in that direction. In reality, the state of the 5E Realms one hundred miles east of the Sword Coast is anyone's guess and in such a massive vacuum, it's very difficult to come up with stuff without adding scaffolding all around it. So that makes it a big job from the perspective of where I work on the Realms. So, I haven't mapped out 5E Impiltur. I may never map it out. But guess what? You are just as much an expert on 5E Impiltur as I am. Go have some fun with the place.

-- George Krashos



Maybe steampunk is not the best description. I'm thinking something like Napoleon era vibe to the realms. Flint lock or cannons technology. Warriors tend more toward breastplates and dueling blades along with pistols. I guess I was just trying to imagine how 5e Impiltur might have evolved from a technology standpoint and then from there decide what the economy and political landscape looks like.

Also, in your Impiltur campaign did the boy king ever make his dream happen? How did Impiltur change at the end of your campaign? Was the council disbanded or did the new monarch find themselves a puppet king? What about the deathknight former king of Impiltur did he play a part in your campaign? Just curious how your realms played out.

Lastly has Ed ever hinted at what Impiltur might look like in 5e during your conversations with the great sage?
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George Krashos
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Originally posted by Rhufus


Also, in your Impiltur campaign did the boy king ever make his dream happen? How did Impiltur change at the end of your campaign? Was the council disbanded or did the new monarch find themselves a puppet king? What about the deathknight former king of Impiltur did he play a part in your campaign? Just curious how your realms played out.

Lastly has Ed ever hinted at what Impiltur might look like in 5e during your conversations with the great sage?



I've never actually had an Impiltur "campaign" just thoughts on the place which lead to my first Dragon article in #277 and then a write up of the kingdom in #346. And yes, King Imbrar II did indeed become king, his coronation occurring on Marpenoth 24 in the Year of Lightning Storms (1374 DR). One of his first formal acts was to dissolve the Council of Lords as a formal body, although many of them remained trusted advisors to the new monarch. Received of the responsibilities of being the Queen-Regent, Sambryl, now with the title of Dowager Queen went off to Silverymoon and Tethyr.

As for the king's namesake, now a death knight, all we know is that the Spellplague did away with him.

And as for Ed, he stopped playing in the Impiltur sandbox many years ago, so as to better give me free rein for my ideas and creativity. He's a good guy like that.

-- George Krashos

"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus
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Steven Schend
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Originally posted by George Krashos
And as for Ed, he stopped playing in the Impiltur sandbox many years ago, so as to better give me free rein for my ideas and creativity. He's a good guy like that.


I think I'm among the few former TSR wage sla—-er, staffers—-who ever did anything in print re Impiltur (all in Sea of Fallen Stars, iirc) but George already knew I was a right bastard anyways. (Also, I ran stuff by him for lore-checking before it went to editorial.)

Steven

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kysus
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George a question for you and eric if I may. In the work that you two had done on earlann have you two come across or came up with why the city of scrolls is named that? was it something like being known for making many magical scrolls or its libraries being mostly in scroll form instead of books maybe? ive just been wondering that for awhile now and i have yet to find anything in print for it. Also sorry i have alot of questions for you still to ask but havent gotten around to asking do to my hobby of rock climbing taking up most of my time and am now training to get back into shape for this fall, but i do plan to try to get a few more questions in when i get a chance.
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George Krashos
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Myth Glaurach inherited the title City of Scrolls from its predecessor, the elven city of Glaurachyndaar. That city in turn grew from Glaurachyn, a school of elven wizardry built atop the ruins of an older Aryvandaraan city and founded in -3917 DR. So the name came from the fact that the city was associated with a school of wizardry. Hence the scrolls.

-- George Krashos

"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus
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Rhufus
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Are there any structures like keeps or anything still in Impiltur that was built by the Narfel empire? Besides demon cysts of course.
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