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Dennis
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Posted - 24 Jan 2011 :  23:09:03  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have three languages to choose from (English, Cebuano, Filipino), so picking some "mild" equivalences of the rather vulgar-sounding ones is not a problem. However, I tend to use both---the former for ordinary things that happen, and the latter for the terrible ones, because when something so vastly infuriating occurs, I tend to match it with the "intensity" of the curse words.

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The Sage
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by evildmguy
[brI think the problem for myself is not knowing other languages. Perhaps English has too much Germanic influence, but I do know a bit of Spanish, and curse words need to flow or be harsh. "stlarn" as a curse word does neither for me, which is why I didn't like it and why I posted on here in the first place. "hrast" might work if the h is silent or it doesn't flow or me. In the end, I came away disappointed that the canon words don't work for me or my group.



Yeah, stlarn, hrast, and tluin all fail to flow for me, and thus don't work as profanity. At least, IMO.
I don't mind hrast, and although I'd never use it in real-life, it does have a certain appeal. Maybe because it's pure Ed-lore... I don't know.

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Have you tried music? That's always a good way to immerse players in the world- sets the mood....

Oh, I very much second this. Depending on the atmosphere you use to create for your games, music can be just as important as having the core rulebooks at your table.

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Alystra Illianniis
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Posted - 25 Jan 2011 :  23:06:46  Show Profile Send Alystra Illianniis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I tend to put up cool pics on my Pc desktop as well. If they are in a dank dungeon, I want them to see the mold on the walls and the rats scurrying in the shadows.....

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The Sage
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Posted - 25 Jan 2011 :  23:55:32  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis

I tend to put up cool pics on my Pc desktop as well. If they are in a dank dungeon, I want them to see the mold on the walls and the rats scurrying in the shadows.....

Ah, yes. I usually hook up my gaming laptop to a wide-screen digital television, when I want to accomplish stuff like that. The depth and picture quality tends to immerse the PCs in an environment like no other.

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Kajehase
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I like the curses Kemp uses: Dark. Dark and empty, man.



If I remember correctly, he got that one from Ed in one of the earlier "Ask Ed" threads.

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Kajehase
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Posted - 26 Jan 2011 :  00:14:43  Show Profile Send Kajehase a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
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Never? Come on, nearly everyone IRL swears on occasion, even if it's just from stubbing a toe. How much MORE so when they miss the shot that might have killed the rampaging dragon?!!! NOT swearing under such conditions seems less real to me. I know I sure would!

Eh. I actually don't care for usual and/or common swearing/cursing in real-life terms. And I never use the words myself, as I've long considered them an abuse of the wonderful intricacies of the English language. It's just so much more fitting for me to find other more creative ways of verbally expressing myself -- using those intricacies I mentioned above -- during such circumstances that would otherwise warrant cursing.


Trust me, when you're walking in snow up to your nipples for 2,5 kilometres while dragging a bicycle and several hundred newspapers you want as many cursewords in as many languages as possible.

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The Sage
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Posted - 26 Jan 2011 :  00:22:35  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Kajehase

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
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Never? Come on, nearly everyone IRL swears on occasion, even if it's just from stubbing a toe. How much MORE so when they miss the shot that might have killed the rampaging dragon?!!! NOT swearing under such conditions seems less real to me. I know I sure would!

Eh. I actually don't care for usual and/or common swearing/cursing in real-life terms. And I never use the words myself, as I've long considered them an abuse of the wonderful intricacies of the English language. It's just so much more fitting for me to find other more creative ways of verbally expressing myself -- using those intricacies I mentioned above -- during such circumstances that would otherwise warrant cursing.


Trust me, when you're walking in snow up to your nipples for 2,5 kilometres while dragging a bicycle and several hundred newspapers you want as many cursewords in as many languages as possible.

Well, since I'm living in one of the driest countries on the planet, I've never really had to worry too much about finding myself chest-deep in snow.

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Dennis
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Posted - 26 Jan 2011 :  06:01:26  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kajehase

quote:
Originally posted by Arion Elenim

I like the curses Kemp uses: Dark. Dark and empty, man.



If I remember correctly, he got that one from Ed in one of the earlier "Ask Ed" threads.



It doesn't sound like a curse. Considering that Riven is an assassin, I thought he should have used some vulgar ones.

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Alystra Illianniis
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Posted - 26 Jan 2011 :  06:28:10  Show Profile Send Alystra Illianniis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That would depend on the kind of assassin. It's all about the background, folks!

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Dennis
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Posted - 26 Jan 2011 :  07:07:30  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote

Well, almost all of the assassins I read in books swear profusely.


***Deleted something I should not have mentioned.

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Alystra Illianniis
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Posted - 26 Jan 2011 :  07:33:22  Show Profile Send Alystra Illianniis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
In person? I'm assuming these are military guys, right? (At least, I HOPE so- 'cause the alternative would be the mob or something, and that's just disturbing.)

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Dennis
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Posted - 26 Jan 2011 :  07:45:52  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote

Sorry, Alystra, I couldn't divulge details. In fact, I shouldn't have mentioned it at all. (Edited prior post.)

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Alystra Illianniis
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Posted - 26 Jan 2011 :  07:56:05  Show Profile Send Alystra Illianniis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hmm, now you have me intrigued. Mind if I ask? Pm yes or no is fine. Darn it, though, you've got my feline curiosity up. (My totem spirit animal is a panther, so yes, I "am" a cat...)

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Kajehase
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Posted - 26 Jan 2011 :  15:35:16  Show Profile Send Kajehase a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis

quote:
Originally posted by Kajehase

quote:
Originally posted by Arion Elenim

I like the curses Kemp uses: Dark. Dark and empty, man.



If I remember correctly, he got that one from Ed in one of the earlier "Ask Ed" threads.



It doesn't sound like a curse. Considering that Riven is an assassin, I thought he should have used some vulgar ones.



It makes perfect sense for a Sembian - nothing in the universe can be as frightening and obscene as a dark and empty coin chest.

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evildmguy
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Posted - 26 Jan 2011 :  15:58:49  Show Profile  Visit evildmguy's Homepage Send evildmguy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis

Have you tried music? That's always a good way to immerse players in the world- sets the mood....



I absolutely agree that music would be a great way to do it. In the past, I have had music in the background that would fit medieval times. That's about the best I could do as there is little chance of me being able to time a speech with a crescendo of music!

What I found harder for me was to have relevant music going. I have CDs of music of the time, and could use my computer to play them, but I tend to start them going and then ignore them myself. So, I might still have more tavern like music going in the background during the battle or a battle song going while we talk about mundane things. Again, that's my own limitation and ability with music.

But, I should think about doing this again for many reasons, so thanks.
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Dennis
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Posted - 26 Jan 2011 :  16:13:30  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kajehase

quote:
Originally posted by Dennis

quote:
Originally posted by Kajehase

quote:
Originally posted by Arion Elenim

I like the curses Kemp uses: Dark. Dark and empty, man.



If I remember correctly, he got that one from Ed in one of the earlier "Ask Ed" threads.



It doesn't sound like a curse. Considering that Riven is an assassin, I thought he should have used some vulgar ones.



It makes perfect sense for a Sembian - nothing in the universe can be as frightening and obscene as a dark and empty coin chest.



Riven has been using that curse ever since he was a Zhent assassin.

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Wooly Rupert
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"Dark and empty" is another curse that just doesn't work for me. Yeah, no Sembian wants his coffer to be dark and empty. But no Sembian is going to want to be dropped in a huge pile of manure, either -- and I don't hear them saying "pile of manure!"

There's a reason that profanity often refers to certain biological acts and/or their results.

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Alystra Illianniis
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Posted - 27 Jan 2011 :  18:55:35  Show Profile Send Alystra Illianniis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Aye, ye have the right of it, oh Wooly one! And some such curses refer also to persons who engage in or are the result of such acts themselves....

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The Sage
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Posted - 28 Jan 2011 :  00:26:54  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

"Dark and empty" is another curse that just doesn't work for me. Yeah, no Sembian wants his coffer to be dark and empty. But no Sembian is going to want to be dropped in a huge pile of manure, either -- and I don't hear them saying "pile of manure!"
I've always thought that particular phrasing should instead suggest this was referring to someone's soul -- "dark and empty." A very harsh cursing, as I see it. And it's probably the way I'd swing it, if I were to drop it into my Realms.

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Dennis
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

"Dark and empty" is another curse that just doesn't work for me. Yeah, no Sembian wants his coffer to be dark and empty. But no Sembian is going to want to be dropped in a huge pile of manure, either -- and I don't hear them saying "pile of manure!"

There's a reason that profanity often refers to certain biological acts and/or their results.



Indeed.

Perhaps it's a translation from the Black Speech which Riven happens to be fluent in. Even so, that it's used as a curse doesn't work at all, and that it's used by an assassin makes it all the more bizarre.

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Kyrene
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I've noticed "Maker"-this-or-that and "Andraste"-this-or-that has been creeping into my swearing pattern of late. When a lot younger, a friend of mine and I used to "Holy Cow!" a lot too. I suppose any phrase/word can be used to curse with, if uttered with enough meaning!

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Chosen of Asmodeus
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"Andraste's ass" was my favorite one from Dragon Age. Replace Andraste with Sune and you've got a realmsian curse.

My cursing in rp tends to be more influenced by Spartacus: Blood and Sand. "Jupiter's [explitive deleted]!" "Juno's [explitive repeatedly deleted]!" "Words fall from your mouth like [explitive deleted] from [explitive deleted]."

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Dennis
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"Sune's ass" doesn't sound like a curse to me. Unless there's a story behind it.

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Chosen of Asmodeus
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Think of it as being the "Hot damn!" of the realms.

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