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Christopher_Rowe
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 Posted - 17 Sep 2008 : 19:37:31
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Hey Scribes, I'm intrigued by the FRCG entry on Thruldar in the Beastlands, particularly the story of the druid cum ghost Voolad. I've turned up an indication that there may be some information in the 3E supplement, The Shining South, but digitized info seems scarce on the ground. Anybody have any pointers?
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Scotty
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Posted - 17 Sep 2008 : 22:47:33
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There is indeed something about it in The Shining South, on Page 154. But it's not much more beyond the entry in the 4E FRCG.
It boils down to: Druid Voolad gathered an army of Dark Trees and monsters in 1264 DR, suprised the city of Thruldar with it and razed it. Some tribes of ghostwise halflings took notice of that and staged another suprise attack killing the druid in the process.
But "the powerful evil the gave [him] purpose" doesn't accept the defeat, lets Voolad's ghost rise again. Halflings sealed ghost and his "fell minions" (alongside most of city wealth) in city with powerful magic, which stays in place at least until 1373 DR (the then current year). And as we know from 4E it endured until the Spellplague hit.
There isn't really much more information then this grammatically reduced summarisation, so it doesn't really expand much on the 4E entry. |
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Christopher_Rowe
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 18 Sep 2008 : 00:57:18
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Thanks, Scotty! I managed to find a copy of The Shining South at a local store tonight and yeah, that's about it. The same information is repeated in somewhat different form in the "Dungeons" section, the Luiren timeline, and in the Thruldar entry that you mention on p. 154.
So, what I've found so far is this: the information in the 4.0 FRCG, similar info in the 3.0 FRCS, the 3.0 Shining South book, and an entry at 1264 DR in the GHotR.
I wonder if there's anything more in the 2nd Edition Shining South supplement, FR16. Or maybe something in a novel, Dragon article, or short story in an anthology?
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Christopher_Rowe
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
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Posted - 18 Sep 2008 : 01:29:51
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Okay, now that I've gone through the 3.0 Shining South more carefully, this bit certainly jumps out:
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...the powerful evil that had given the druid purpose would not accept the defeat of its servant, and Voolad soon rose up as a ghost. --p. 154
What "powerful evil" would have motive to use an evil druid to raze an Estagundan settlement in the 13th century DR, and then the means to raise up its defeates servant as a ghost?
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Christopher_Rowe
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 18 Sep 2008 : 02:17:19
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| Thanks Sage! Anything beyond whats in the other cited sources? And any thoughts on what power might have raised Voolad into undeath? |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 18 Sep 2008 : 14:58:42
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Originally posted by Christopher_Rowe
What "powerful evil" would have motive to use an evil druid to raze an Estagundan settlement in the 13th century DR, and then the means to raise up its defeates servant as a ghost?
Hmm. I think it might be easier to figure out what evil power wouldn't want to do that. It might be a being we haven't read about in print (yet). |
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Christopher_Rowe
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 18 Sep 2008 : 15:36:28
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ShadezofDis
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 18 Sep 2008 : 16:27:47
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Does Malar have any particular history with the undead one way or the other?
He does. There have been Malarite vampires (maybe the lost level of undermountain adventure, but there was one in at least one of the undermountain adventures) and a Malarite . . . oh, those damned undead with the tongue, I forget their name.
I also seem to remember a tid bit about some Dark Tree being a follower of Malar, just not sure where it was from. Might have been the Vilhon update for 4E from the wizards site.
Personally I think Malar should have an aversion to undead, since undead tend to upset the balance in nature and above all else I believe that Malar should be a nature deity. I've come up with some theories about civilization corrupting Malar to a certain extent, but I think the handling of Malar has been pretty bad in general (Bane's little hunting hound for all intents and purposes). |
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Ayunken-vanzan
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Posted - 18 Sep 2008 : 16:48:21
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there was one in at least one of the undermountain adventures) and a Malarite . . . oh, those damned undead with the tongue, I forget their name.
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ShadezofDis
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Posted - 18 Sep 2008 : 17:30:20
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Mohrg?
That's the one. From the novel Jewel of Turmish |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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Posted - 18 Sep 2008 : 23:01:57
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Originally posted by Christopher_Rowe
Does Malar have any particular history with the undead one way or the other?
The aforementioned Jewel of Turmish involves Malarite undead. |
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Christopher_Rowe
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 18 Sep 2008 : 23:18:19
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 18 Sep 2008 : 23:35:38
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Originally posted by Christopher_Rowe
Thanks, y'all--I'll have a lookout for Odom's novel.
I...can't say I loved that novel, but perhaps you will. |
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ShadezofDis
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Posted - 19 Sep 2008 : 15:26:39
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Originally posted by Christopher_Rowe
Thanks, y'all--I'll have a lookout for Odom's novel.
I...can't say I loved that novel, but perhaps you will.
Seconded.
Though, to be honest, it helped me develop my Malarite heresy (which basically breaks down to "We worship the hunt but we aren't idiots."  ) |
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