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Caolin
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Posted - 24 Aug 2008 :  22:02:04  Show Profile Send Caolin a Private Message  Delete Topic
I ran across this story while checking out a D&D/NWN blogger's site http://mmoonsea.blogspot.com/.

It appears that the Republicans are taking up D&D bashing by calling us weak nerds who are unpatriotic. But they didn't realize that D&D is more widespread than they imagined. Check out the link to another bloggers repsponse (who happens to be a decorated military man).

http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsidian_wings/2008/08/quickpost-typep.html

Ashe Ravenheart
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Posted - 24 Aug 2008 :  22:08:37  Show Profile Send Ashe Ravenheart a Private Message
Having spent a year living in Virginia Beach, VA (which is 15 miles from Norfolk, VA; where USACOM (United States Atlantic Command) commands the entire Atlantic fleet of the Navy), and meeting a LOT of servicemen in the area, it was fun to find out that a large portion of the Navy played D&D regularly on the boats during their downtime.

I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.

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Wandering_mage
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Posted - 24 Aug 2008 :  22:39:53  Show Profile  Visit Wandering_mage's Homepage Send Wandering_mage a Private Message
Dude, I am a decorated veteran myself. I know tons of soldiers that played D&D with me and others. In fact my friend that accompanied me to GENCON 2008 is a decorated veteran too! Without getting too much into my military career suffice it to say that the Forgotten Realms has a large following in the ranks of the military.

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scererar
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Posted - 24 Aug 2008 :  22:43:03  Show Profile Send scererar a Private Message
12 years in the Army, every duty station I found myself in had folks who played D&D or RPG computer games of one sort or another. especially while deployed, on down time, when we had down time that is a game would usually evolve at some point.
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Rafe Hasbrouck
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Posted - 24 Aug 2008 :  22:49:40  Show Profile  Visit Rafe Hasbrouck's Homepage Send Rafe Hasbrouck a Private Message
Wow. It is rather sad he said people that play D&D are not patriotic. I served in the Army for five years and I played with a total of over 25 different people at any one time. All of them also in the military, some who never played it before and found out what it was like. Dungeons and Dragons was a way to pass the time and get together between the endless hours of deployments to Kuwait, Iraq, Kosovo and wherever else our travels took us. We loved playing the Realms especially, and would try to play whenever we could spare the time.

I also spent time in VA Beach for awhile Ashe. I was stationed in Ft Story. Loved the area and never had any problem finding someone to play a game of D&D.
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Caolin
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Posted - 25 Aug 2008 :  00:14:12  Show Profile Send Caolin a Private Message
Much props to all of you who served. I love that D&D can't be used as a tool for politics anymore. And shame on the Republican who just made the fool of himself.
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Matt James
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Posted - 25 Aug 2008 :  01:04:25  Show Profile Send Matt James a Private Message
*groan* I need to read into this more. It would be a poor choice of words if this is indeed true.

I am a combat-wounded veteran (May, 2005) and I live in the D.C. area. I have a lot of callous to political controversies, so try not to take my post the wrong way :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/gameworldinteractive/BSM5.jpg

Edited by - Matt James on 25 Aug 2008 01:10:24
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Kuje
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Posted - 25 Aug 2008 :  01:19:28  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message
This might be the same story Elaine posted on her journal the other day, and she has a link to the post, which is:

http://www.johnmccain.com/McCainReport/Read.aspx?guid=181471d0-5456-4434-9f78-2f30ffc39459

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The Sage
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Posted - 25 Aug 2008 :  01:32:28  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message
Fellow scribes, we're wandering dangerously close to some of the guidelines about forbidden topics referenced in the Code of Conduct.

Let's just keep that in mind as we continue this discussion.

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Neil
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Posted - 25 Aug 2008 :  04:15:29  Show Profile  Visit Neil's Homepage Send Neil a Private Message
That would be poorly thought out, given that back in the day it seemed that pretty much everybody in a uniform was playing D&D, especially in the Navy and Air Force.
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Matt James
Forgotten Realms Game Designer

USA
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Posted - 25 Aug 2008 :  04:36:45  Show Profile Send Matt James a Private Message
I have a photograph of a STACK of books I had while deployed to Iraq. I was in the Southern part of Baghdad and this photo has never had a place for me to stick on a forum until now ;)

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Ranak
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Posted - 25 Aug 2008 :  04:37:41  Show Profile  Visit Ranak's Homepage Send Ranak a Private Message
To refocus this on Realms matters...

I am I the only one who noticed that according to Ed's Dwarves Deep that Barak means strong in Dwarven? LOL.

I had a local politician decry DnD when I was about 8 years old (early 80s at the height of anti-DnD hysteria). Fortunately, I did not heed his advice. My first grade teacher was a wonderful woman who played DnD and encourages us all to be creative and independent.

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Kiaransalyn
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Posted - 25 Aug 2008 :  09:49:34  Show Profile Send Kiaransalyn a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Caolin

It appears that the Republicans are taking up D&D bashing by calling us weak nerds who are unpatriotic.


It sounds like they need a soft target to hit in order to avoid talking about real issues.

The strange thing is when you put aside the fantasy elements many corporations and institutions use role-play for training purposes. I should imagine having soldiers play a game that gets them to think about tactics and effective ways to achieve a goal would be a good thing.

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StarBog
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Posted - 25 Aug 2008 :  10:51:01  Show Profile  Visit StarBog's Homepage Send StarBog a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

This might be the same story Elaine posted on her journal the other day, and she has a link to the post, which is:

http://www.johnmccain.com/McCainReport/Read.aspx?guid=181471d0-5456-4434-9f78-2f30ffc39459



I read this differently, more like a smear against stereotypical nerds.

The original author has apologised, in quite an amusing way (http://ace.new.mu.nu/apology_from_mccains_campaign_blogger):

"If my comments caused any harm or hurt to the hard working Americans who play Dungeons & Dragons, I apologize. This campaign is committed to increasing the strength, constitution, dexterity, intelligence, wisdom, and charisma scores of every American..."
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The Red Walker
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Posted - 25 Aug 2008 :  13:26:29  Show Profile Send The Red Walker a Private Message
Bleech....Real World Politics in Candlekeep?? wtf?


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Matt James
Forgotten Realms Game Designer

USA
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Posted - 25 Aug 2008 :  13:33:25  Show Profile Send Matt James a Private Message
So how about them WoTC changes, eh? *nervous laugh*

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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High

Australia
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Posted - 25 Aug 2008 :  14:34:09  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message
I think this topic is done.

*scroll sealed*

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