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Originally posted by Sanishiver

Obvioulsy, as I'm much too big for you to do that sort of thing with your head.



Sanishiver=4E Realms Fan.

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Originally posted by Markustay

Thalos_Milathriel - Amazing First Post! Well Done! [/br]

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Originally posted by TwigB

Well I really like what i'm seeing so far. I'm borrowing a copy of the new FRCS from a friend and I will most certainly be buying my own copy. HawkinstheDM did however bring something slightly alarming to my attention. Apparently the realms will no longer be expanded with additional books but rather with the use of Dragon articles.

My only real problem with that is the fact that I can't get a hold of Dragon where I live. So hopefully folks can answer some of my questions:

-Are the Dragon excerpts (Cormyr, Rose Keep etc) on the WoTC website just snippets of the actual article or are they the whole package.
-Can you download the magazines online if you join DnD Insider?
-How do you join DnD Insider (I've been wracking my brain with that one)

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Originally posted by Sanishiver

Yup, 'twas an attempt at humor.

As well a reminder that We Who Still Post on the FR Forums post here as well, not all of us dislike the 4E Realms and none of us care to be made fun of by another forum (especially by one we are a part of).

My apologies for any offense.

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Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart

Well, I finally found a copy at a bookstore (of course it took flying 1100 miles to my parents...)

I do like some of the ideas presented, but I have to agree with the general consensus that there's just not enough facts and the artwork/maps is not up to usual snuff.

One thing I did notice, when going over the 'new' time line to explain Abeir, it mentions that Ao created all the worlds of this realm, and the twin goddesses defended Toril from the Primordials. Then, under Selûne and Shar's entries it says they created Toril.

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Originally posted by Markustay
As for the Silverymoon thing - I think a region is considered belonging to a certain group if the leader is of that group, so even if Alustriel's offspring is the ONLY Elf (Eladrin?) in the city, the Realm (under the new rules) would be considered an Elven one.

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Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart

I still can't wrap my head around those on the WotC boards that are praising the book as exactly what the Realms needed...

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Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart

*ahem* Yes... *blush*

Well met, Rin!

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Originally posted by Markustay

So they actually managed to come up with something worse then Maztica?

Now that DID take a lot of talent LOL.

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Originally posted by Markustay

So they actually managed to come up with something worse then Maztica?

Now that DID take a lot of talent LOL.

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Don't be cruel to Maztica.

Dungeon crawling in Maztica was great fun. Like Raiders of the Lost Ark and Temple of Doom, only more monsters and traps, and fewer Nazis.

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from the Forgotten Realms Campaign Guide, pgs 4-5

1. Roughly a hundred years have passed in the world since the previous edition of the campaign setting. The current year is 1479 DR, the Year of the Ageless One.

2. The Spellplague has drastically altered the cosmos. The Spellplague broke out in 1385 DR (the Year of Blue Fire), the result of unfettered wild magic on the death of the goddess Mystra. Whole countries are gone, especially in regions south of the Sea of Fallen
Stars. Even familiar lands have become magical and fantastic in appearance. Islands of rock called earthmotes drift through the sky. Weird towers and spires of stone jut from the landscape. Spectacular chasms and waterfalls abound.

All things were sustenance for the Spellplague’s insatiable hunger—it assailed and transformed flesh, stone, magic, space, and dimensional walls. Even the cosmos beyond Toril was affected. Some ancient realms returned that had been thought gone forever (such as the Feywild), and entire planes (such as the Abyss) shifted to a new cosmic structure.

3. Portions of Abeir have fused with Toril. The Spellplague raged even beyond planar boundaries, and Toril’s long-lost twin world, cut off for tens of millennia, was also caught up in the maelstrom. Large parts of Faerûn exchanged places with equivalent land masses on Abeir, bringing their populations with them. Across the Trackless Sea, an entire continent of the lost realm reappeared, now called Returned Abeir.

4. The number of gods has dropped markedly. During the last century, even deities succumbed to divine and diabolical plots or to the chaos of the Spellplague. Of those now absent, many died, some left, and a few were revealed to be aspects of already extant gods. Others lost so much power that they became exarchs, lesser divinities who serve the other gods.

5. The Spellplague left its mark on creatures. Some effects of the Spellplague persist to this day, especially in the so-called Plaguelands where wild magic yet rages unrestrained. After exposure to the Plaguelands, some creatures exhibit physical marks called spell scars. These spellscarred individuals develop unique abilities, but not without a price.

Victims of the original Spellplague were horribly changed, not simply scarred, their flesh warped in unimaginable ways. The abilities of the spellscarred, though unique, are never as monstrous and powerful as those of plaguechanged creatures. Luckily, such monsters are few, and of those, only a handful are free-willed, mobile threats.

6. Huge Underdark collapses have changed the surface of Faerûn. As the earth fell away, the level and position of the Sea of Fallen Stars shifted drastically. An enormous opening into the Underdark has formed south of the Chondalwood. In addition to this country-sized hole in the earth, underground shifting has made the Underdark much more accessible to the surface world.

7. Thay has become a terrible undead threat. The former land of the Red Wizards is now under the control of a single power-mad regent: Szass Tam. He nearly succeeded in performing a ritual that would have made him an immortal being. Szass Tam failed, but in so doing he transformed Thay into a nightmare land of death. Now the regent is intent on expanding Thay’s borders so that he can attempt the ritual again.

8. The ancient empire of Netheril has been restored. The Twelve Princes of Shade rule from their capital city, Shade Enclave, in a land newly reclaimed from the Anauroch Desert. Netheril is once again a major player and a threat to all the northern realms.

9. Ancient elven lineages have returned to Faerûn. With the reappearance of the Feywild, its natives have begun exploring the world again. These fey folk collectively call themselves eladrin, and many Faerûnian elves have also adopted this name for their lineage, though they have not forgotten their traditional cultural istinctions and names. In casual speech, the world “elven” collectively refers to the two branches of this fey people: elves and eladrin.

10. Most portals no longer work. The breaking of the Weave destroyed most of the portals that crisscrossed Toril, because it destroyed the hard-won knowledge of arcane casters. Although arcanists have relearned their craft since the Spellplague raged, most portals remain nonfunctional or dangerously malfunctioning, broken relics of a legendary past.

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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

It all sucks, I hate it.

Figured I'd just keep it simple!

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Originally posted by HawkinstheDM
2. Considering how they casually re-arranged the Wheel into the Tree in 3e, this does not bother me all that much. What bothers me is that the death of the goddess of magic is something that has happened twice before, and it has never precipitated such occurrences on either occasion. So why the hell does it do it now? Overall all not that upsetting though.

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Originally posted by Sanishiver

Also, is all of the masked vulgarity really necessary in your post? I can understand you're upset, but c'mon...

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