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MerrikCale
Senior Scribe
USA
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 Posted - 11 Aug 2008 : 21:25:08
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Some people have received their FR books and have posted the gods on the internet. Some now apparently gone include Mask, Shehanine, Shandaukul, Hanali, Deneir, Aerdie, Lurue, Set, Finder, and Yondalla
Who do you miss
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eiglos
Acolyte
United Kingdom
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Posted - 11 Aug 2008 : 21:32:34
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| Lurue, as will Wooly. I can't believe Malar is still there without Lurue being there to oppose him. |
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Hawkins
Great Reader
USA
2131 Posts |
Posted - 11 Aug 2008 : 21:37:32
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| WTF!? Why the hell is Mask gone!? That makes no damn sense!!! (Sorry, I have noticed that the more and more that we see of the "new" Realms, the more tendency I have to swear in acronym.) |
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He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back. --Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass
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* Martial Arts Guidebook (forthcoming) (PFRPG, designer; Rite Publishing)
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MerrikCale
Senior Scribe
USA
947 Posts |
Posted - 11 Aug 2008 : 21:37:36
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Originally posted by eiglos
Lurue, as will Wooly. I can't believe Malar is still there without Lurue being there to oppose him.
but as a dopey demigod/exarch, he has been neutered |
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Uzzy
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
618 Posts |
Posted - 11 Aug 2008 : 21:40:00
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None. Using them all in my home game.
You know that Loviatar is missing from the lists too, right? |
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sfdragon
Great Reader
2285 Posts |
Posted - 11 Aug 2008 : 21:47:34
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| Im blacklisting it,and off to pathfinder rules and not converting to $e realms |
why is being a wizard like being a drow? both are likely to find a dagger in the back from a rival or one looking to further his own goals, fame and power
My FR fan fiction
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Brian R. James
Forgotten Realms Game Designer
USA
1098 Posts |
Posted - 11 Aug 2008 : 22:14:29
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| I think I'll miss Helm most of all |
Brian R. James - Freelance Game Designer
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AlorinDawn
Learned Scribe
USA
313 Posts |
Posted - 11 Aug 2008 : 22:37:51
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| None! I don't subscribe to the rubbish of the Shattered Realms. |
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Ayunken-vanzan
Senior Scribe
Germany
657 Posts |
Posted - 11 Aug 2008 : 22:38:39
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| At least Torm is now a greater deity. |
"What mattered our lives now? When our world had been torn from us? Folk wept, or drank, or stood staring out over the land, wondering what new horror each dawn would bring."
Elender Stormfall of Suzail
"Anyone can kill deities, cause plagues, or destroy organizations. It takes real skill to make them live on."
Varl
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36910 Posts |
Posted - 11 Aug 2008 : 23:27:39
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| Lurue, Finder, Nobanion, Shaundakul, Lathander.... Those are the ones I like the best, that are apparently no longer around (though some may be nerfed to exarchs). As I've stated more than once, I've never liked the tripartite sun deity idea, and even if I did, I don't think that 100 years is nearly enough time for one aspect to fade and another to rise. |
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StarBog
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
152 Posts |
Posted - 11 Aug 2008 : 23:34:53
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Originally posted by HawkinstheDM
WTF!? Why the hell is Mask gone!? T
Because WOTC have decided that bigging up Shar as pretty much the all-encompassing-generic-evil-deity (tm) will make it easier for their target audience (12-year old MMO players) to pick up the newly dumbed down Shattered Realms?
Grrr......
I know I'm tending to emit a relentless stream of Sharrian negativity (heh) these days about the Realms, but grrrrrrr.......but when you've spent as much time in the Realms as I have, you tend to feel deeply let down by the recent directions of said Realms. |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 12 Aug 2008 : 00:25:25
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Which God will I miss?!
I'm not understanding the question. 
Unless you mean to follow that new WotC book that has little to do with the Forgotten Realms, aside from the name.
None of the gods in MY FR are going anywhere unless I say so.  |
"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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MerrikCale
Senior Scribe
USA
947 Posts |
Posted - 12 Aug 2008 : 01:31:25
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Lurue, Finder, Nobanion, Shaundakul, Lathander....
they are not on that list either |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 12 Aug 2008 : 01:39:51
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quote:
Originally posted by MerrikCale
Some people have received their FR books and have posted the gods on the internet. Some now apparently gone include Mask, Shehanine, Shandaukul, Hanali, Deneir, Aerdie, Lurue, Set, Finder, and Yondalla
Who do you miss
None, because they all still live happily in my Realms. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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MerrikCale
Senior Scribe
USA
947 Posts |
Posted - 12 Aug 2008 : 02:17:14
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Originally posted by Brian R. James
I think I'll miss Helm most of all
Didn't you kill him?  |
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Hawkins
Great Reader
USA
2131 Posts |
Posted - 12 Aug 2008 : 03:02:36
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Originally posted by MerrikCale
quote:
Originally posted by Brian R. James
I think I'll miss Helm most of all
Didn't you kill him?
You are probably already aware of this (I seem to remember you on the WotC boards when this stuff went down), but Brian was pretty much unaware of anything that was published in the Grand History of the Realms after 1375. He didn't even receive his complimentary copy before the brown smelly stuff hit the fan. |
Errant d20 Designer - My Blog (last updated January 06, 2016)
One, two! One, two! And through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back. --Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass
"Mmm, not the darkness," Myrin murmured. "Don't cast it there." --Erik Scott de Bie, Shadowbane
* My character sheets (PFRPG, 3.5, and AE versions; not viewable in Internet Explorer)
* Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Reference Document (PFRPG OGL Rules)
* The Hypertext d20 SRD (3.5 OGL Rules)
* 3.5 D&D Archives
My game design work:
* Heroes of the Jade Oath (PFRPG, conversion; Rite Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 1: Cantrips & Orisons (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 2: 1st-Level Spells (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Martial Arts Guidebook (forthcoming) (PFRPG, designer; Rite Publishing)
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monknwildcat
Learned Scribe
USA
285 Posts |
Posted - 12 Aug 2008 : 03:30:55
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::cue Celine Dion's love theme from TITANIC::
...sniff...sniff...
I liked Urogalan and Urdlen, patrons of two of my fave PCs; I s'pect they're subsumed by Kelemvor and Gruumsh. Same with old standby's like Isis-Ishtar, who prolly just found out she's really Selune. Or is Mulhorand totally fabu desolation?
But the folks I really wanted back were the tantalizingly obscure Yuir totems. I hoped the Simbul, Queen of Aglarond, would atleast survive as a reinvigorated exarch known as the Simbul. |
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sfdragon
Great Reader
2285 Posts |
Posted - 12 Aug 2008 : 09:32:28
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| not going to use the 4e deity trash |
why is being a wizard like being a drow? both are likely to find a dagger in the back from a rival or one looking to further his own goals, fame and power
My FR fan fiction
Magister's GAmbit
http://steelfiredragon.deviantart.com/gallery/33539234 |
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Quale
Master of Realmslore
1757 Posts |
Posted - 12 Aug 2008 : 09:41:40
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I won't use 4e
first of all I would miss Sehanine, then Finder, Deneir, Mask, Shaundakul, Nobanion, Lurue, Urdlen, Gargauth etc. |
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Zanan
Senior Scribe
Germany
942 Posts |
Posted - 12 Aug 2008 : 10:02:50
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Matter of factly, it is not entirely sure wwhether they are all indeed gone. I seem to remember that many "Core" deities were added to the roster of 3E only in later books, such as Complete Divine et al. Who knows what a "4E FR Faiths & Divine Champions" book will add to the list we have right now.
BTW, if Shar got the better of Mask, I would hope that she becomes a true deity of night and shadows, not some nihilism-bound half-mad. |
Cave quid dicis, quando et cui!
Gæð a wyrd swa hio scel!
In memory of Alura Durshavin.
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sfdragon
Great Reader
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Posted - 12 Aug 2008 : 10:26:29
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at that point, with the toes stepped on now, who'd buy it?
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why is being a wizard like being a drow? both are likely to find a dagger in the back from a rival or one looking to further his own goals, fame and power
My FR fan fiction
Magister's GAmbit
http://steelfiredragon.deviantart.com/gallery/33539234 |
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Quale
Master of Realmslore
1757 Posts |
Posted - 12 Aug 2008 : 11:53:38
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| there won't be 4e Faiths and Pantheons, Rich said |
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Ayunken-vanzan
Senior Scribe
Germany
657 Posts |
Posted - 12 Aug 2008 : 12:11:39
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| Not surprising, that would be excessive lore, something most unwanted for 4e realms. |
"What mattered our lives now? When our world had been torn from us? Folk wept, or drank, or stood staring out over the land, wondering what new horror each dawn would bring."
Elender Stormfall of Suzail
"Anyone can kill deities, cause plagues, or destroy organizations. It takes real skill to make them live on."
Varl
FR/D&D-Links • 2ed Downloads |
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Zanan
Senior Scribe
Germany
942 Posts |
Posted - 12 Aug 2008 : 13:07:08
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Originally posted by Quale
there won't be 4e Faiths and Pantheons, Rich said
Yes, hence I wrote Faiths & Divine Champions, where we will see a fifteen page article on Obould and possible Drizzt, Fzoul and the like. Huzzah! "Heroes" to be emulated! |
Cave quid dicis, quando et cui!
Gæð a wyrd swa hio scel!
In memory of Alura Durshavin.
Visit my "Homepage" to find A Guide to the Drow NPCs of Faerûn, Drow and non-Drow PrC and much more. |
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Quale
Master of Realmslore
1757 Posts |
Posted - 12 Aug 2008 : 14:18:42
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oh ok, great for Drizzt fans then
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Nefarious
Acolyte
USA
21 Posts |
Posted - 12 Aug 2008 : 14:30:07
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| Most certainly Mystra. |
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Pandora
Learned Scribe
Germany
305 Posts |
Posted - 12 Aug 2008 : 15:26:01
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| All of them ... or rather none, since I wont be using 4e. |
If you cant say what youre meaning,
you can never mean what youre saying.
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MerrikCale
Senior Scribe
USA
947 Posts |
Posted - 12 Aug 2008 : 15:44:15
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Originally posted by HawkinstheDM
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Originally posted by MerrikCale
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Originally posted by Brian R. James
I think I'll miss Helm most of all
Didn't you kill him?
You are probably already aware of this (I seem to remember you on the WotC boards when this stuff went down), but Brian was pretty much unaware of anything that was published in the Grand History of the Realms after 1375. He didn't even receive his complimentary copy before the brown smelly stuff hit the fan.
I know. I was just kidding around as he is the listed author of that tome, hence the smile |
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tauster
Senior Scribe
Germany
399 Posts |
Posted - 12 Aug 2008 : 15:56:00
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...to repeat what I already said in other scrolls: Why don't we start an organized attempt of expanding the body of lore about the pre-4e-Realms, or even pre-3e-Realms?
I am happy to see that the majority of the candlekeep scribes won't move to 4e (like me, obviously), but to be honest: I am tiring of the constant "not me"-attitude. This is not meant in an insulting way, instead I say let's stop saying "me not" and start acting!
There is sooo much left unexplored in the body of official lore, just a a few examples:
- the Manshoon Wars
- the reclamation wars of the dwarves of Tethyamar
- the Harper Schism
- the internal machinations of the Black Network, details of their "traderoute through the anauroch"-plan
Imho, it souldnt be that hard to establish a more or less organized way of how to do these topics. A couple of sub-forums, one for each topic so the participants don't clutter the existing boards, seems to be a good idea. Then we start collecting all existing lore about the topics, or just a list with references to the relevant books. After that, or parallel to that, brainstorming to collect ideas how to expand and continue the story. As this stuff is obviously not canon lore, these projects create "optional timelines" that will in all likelyhood differ from the established official lore.
...just a few ideas. What do you think? |
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MerrikCale
Senior Scribe
USA
947 Posts |
Posted - 13 Aug 2008 : 03:26:52
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I pulled this quote from a Rich Baker response over on the Wizard Boards.
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But is it really that important to most FR campaigns that there used to be a goddess of streams and ponds called Eldath?
This tells me that the design team over Wizards does not understand the Realms. They just don't get it. Plain and simple. |
When hinges creak in doorless chambers and strange and frightening sounds echo through the halls, whenever candlelights flicker where the air is deathly still, that is the time when ghosts are present, practicing their terror with ghoulish delight. |
Edited by - MerrikCale on 13 Aug 2008 03:29:08 |
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Which God will You miss
