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Sylrae
Learned Scribe
Canada
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 Posted - 01 Aug 2008 : 21:39:14
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alrighty; I'm almost done all the FR novels I have.
I'm looking for a list of novels, preferably in chronological order, but specifically I'm looking for the elven ones right now.
I'm done with my drow kick (didn't read the drizzt books, but I don't really want to).
now I'd like to read elf novels. Not just novels with elves, but novels where the plot is about elves.
Can anyone give me a list? :P
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Hawkins
Great Reader
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Posted - 01 Aug 2008 : 23:32:38
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| Why don't you start with which novels with elves you have read? Then we can give you suggestions from there. |
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scererar
Master of Realmslore
USA
1618 Posts |
Posted - 02 Aug 2008 : 01:19:17
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
USA
3567 Posts |
Posted - 02 Aug 2008 : 01:49:33
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Yep, Evermeet is where you should start.
Also, The Last Mythal Trilogy. |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 02 Aug 2008 : 01:51:01
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| Almost forgot, even though it focuses on Elminster, Elminster in Myth Drannor has plenty of Elvish action! |
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Aulduron
Learned Scribe
USA
343 Posts |
Posted - 02 Aug 2008 : 02:31:09
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There are some Realms of Elves books, full of short stories.
I just bought the Last Mythal series. In what time frame is it set? |
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scererar
Master of Realmslore
USA
1618 Posts |
Posted - 02 Aug 2008 : 04:45:17
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| mostly 1374 Year of lightning storms |
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Karzak
Learned Scribe
196 Posts |
Posted - 02 Aug 2008 : 12:36:41
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| Go for things by Elaine Cunningham. The Last Mythal is flavorless canon-mutilating tat and reads like a campaign transcript where the DM is uninspired and the players are deadly bored. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 02 Aug 2008 : 12:51:20
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| While Elaine's books are loved by just about everyone, the opinions on Last Mythal obviously vary. While I do agree with *some* of the things its detractors list as faults, I still rather enjoyed the trilogy, and I don't have a problem recommending it to others. |
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Sylrae
Learned Scribe
Canada
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scererar
Master of Realmslore
USA
1618 Posts |
Posted - 04 Aug 2008 : 04:43:41
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Avoid the last Mythal trilogy if you must, but IMO, you will be missing out on realms lore that is quite enjoyable. These boards are filled with opinions for and against just about every FR novel. My vote is research the site on a particular trilogy for the various opinions, or read them your self to form your own educated opinion.
The return of the Arch wizards also has some information on Elves, but opinions are all over the spectrum for or against this trilogy. I liked it
Additionally, I concur with Karzak and Wooley, novels by Elaine Cunningham are worth picking up. |
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Sylrae
Learned Scribe
Canada
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 04 Aug 2008 : 17:31:53
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I certainly didn't care for the Last Mythal trilogy. If you're curious about it though, give it a try.
I highly recommend Elaine Cunningham's novels. |
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Karzak
Learned Scribe
196 Posts |
Posted - 06 Aug 2008 : 12:35:28
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If all else fails, just go to the wizards website and look through the sample chapters. If you find the writing of the first chapter (chapters? Think they put up prologue and first chapter there) of, say, Forsaken House - the first book of Last Mythal - as bland and mediocre as I did, chances are you won't much enjoy the rest of the trilogy either. And on that note, wow, I didn't realize there was so many threads, each with lots of comments, devoted to the discussion of Last Mythal, and that's not even counting the Book Club sub-forum.
Any particular reason you don't really want to read the Drizzt books, by the way? Not that I'm trying to convince you otherwise or anything; as far as I'm concerned, if you don't want to read those, then you sound like you have excellent tastes. |
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Nkoda
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 12 Aug 2008 : 01:00:09
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Originally posted by Karzak
Go for things by Elaine Cunningham. The Last Mythal is flavorless canon-mutilating tat and reads like a campaign transcript where the DM is uninspired and the players are deadly bored.
I actually enjoyed Last Mythal. But then again I really like Elves and i thought the Return was cool. |
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Karzak
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 12 Aug 2008 : 08:04:36
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| I didn't dislike Last Mythal because I dislike elves or didn't like the Return. I disliked that borefest because it's dully written and the characters have all the presence and personalities of bran flakes. |
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MerrikCale
Senior Scribe
USA
947 Posts |
Posted - 12 Aug 2008 : 15:11:14
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| Frostfell is an underrated novel |
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ElaineCunningham
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 12 Aug 2008 : 18:36:10
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Sylrae, have you read the anthology Realms of the Elves?
There's quite a bit about elves in RAS's In Sylvan Shadows, which is part of the cleric quintet.
Several of my Songs & Swords books have a half-elf character, but the one that deals most directly with elven people and cultures is Silver Shadows. And there's Evermeet, which is two books in one: Danilo Thann's attempt to gather elven legends and history as a gift to his half-elf love, and a present-day (1371) story to which the various threads of legend and lore are tied. It's not your average FR adventure, but there are definitely elves therein.
Many thanks to the folks who recommended my books. I thought it worthwhile, however, to specify which ones actually focus on elves. Some of them have elven characters--the Counselors & Kings trilogy, for example, has a wild elf villain--but are not ABOUT elves, per se.
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Nkoda
Acolyte
USA
40 Posts |
Posted - 13 Aug 2008 : 02:41:23
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Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
Sylrae, have you read the anthology Realms of the Elves?
There's quite a bit about elves in RAS's In Sylvan Shadows, which is part of the cleric quintet.
Several of my Songs & Swords books have a half-elf character, but the one that deals most directly with elven people and cultures is Silver Shadows. And there's Evermeet, which is two books in one: Danilo Thann's attempt to gather elven legends and history as a gift to his half-elf love, and a present-day (1371) story to which the various threads of legend and lore are tied. It's not your average FR adventure, but there are definitely elves therein.
Many thanks to the folks who recommended my books. I thought it worthwhile, however, to specify which ones actually focus on elves. Some of them have elven characters--the Counselors & Kings trilogy, for example, has a wild elf villain--but are not ABOUT elves, per se.
although they may wnat to read the songs and swords novels before evermeet to get a sense of who Danilo Thann is first. I liked the character much more rereading Evermeet after the fact :). |
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ElaineCunningham
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 13 Aug 2008 : 13:04:05
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Originally posted by Nkoda
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Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
Sylrae, have you read the anthology Realms of the Elves?
There's quite a bit about elves in RAS's In Sylvan Shadows, which is part of the cleric quintet.
Several of my Songs & Swords books have a half-elf character, but the one that deals most directly with elven people and cultures is Silver Shadows. And there's Evermeet, which is two books in one: Danilo Thann's attempt to gather elven legends and history as a gift to his half-elf love, and a present-day (1371) story to which the various threads of legend and lore are tied. It's not your average FR adventure, but there are definitely elves therein.
Many thanks to the folks who recommended my books. I thought it worthwhile, however, to specify which ones actually focus on elves. Some of them have elven characters--the Counselors & Kings trilogy, for example, has a wild elf villain--but are not ABOUT elves, per se.
although they may wnat to read the songs and swords novels before evermeet to get a sense of who Danilo Thann is first. I liked the character much more rereading Evermeet after the fact :).
If someone wants to go this route, then I would recommend Elfshadow, Elfsong, and Silver Shadows. I can't think of any reason why it would be necessary to read Thornhold and Dreamspheres before Evermeet. |
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SirUrza
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 13 Aug 2008 : 17:25:31
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quote:
Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
If someone wants to go this route, then I would recommend Elfshadow, Elfsong, and Silver Shadows. I can't think of any reason why it would be necessary to read Thornhold and Dreamspheres before Evermeet.
*waves fanboy flag*
All good books to reads though. Evermeet is a good way to finish off the series. |
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MerrikCale
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 14 Aug 2008 : 02:32:04
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Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
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Originally posted by Nkoda
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Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
Sylrae, have you read the anthology Realms of the Elves?
There's quite a bit about elves in RAS's In Sylvan Shadows, which is part of the cleric quintet.
Several of my Songs & Swords books have a half-elf character, but the one that deals most directly with elven people and cultures is Silver Shadows. And there's Evermeet, which is two books in one: Danilo Thann's attempt to gather elven legends and history as a gift to his half-elf love, and a present-day (1371) story to which the various threads of legend and lore are tied. It's not your average FR adventure, but there are definitely elves therein.
Many thanks to the folks who recommended my books. I thought it worthwhile, however, to specify which ones actually focus on elves. Some of them have elven characters--the Counselors & Kings trilogy, for example, has a wild elf villain--but are not ABOUT elves, per se.
although they may wnat to read the songs and swords novels before evermeet to get a sense of who Danilo Thann is first. I liked the character much more rereading Evermeet after the fact :).
If someone wants to go this route, then I would recommend Elfshadow, Elfsong, and Silver Shadows. I can't think of any reason why it would be necessary to read Thornhold and Dreamspheres before Evermeet.
well, if you can't think of any....... |
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ElaineCunningham
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 14 Aug 2008 : 11:46:45
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| My point being, there's nothing in either book that one absolutely MUST KNOW before reading Evermeet. |
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Aulduron
Learned Scribe
USA
343 Posts |
Posted - 18 Aug 2008 : 03:47:07
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| I just finished the Last Mythal series. I thought it was good. I especialy liked the Elven history. I'd love to read a whole series about the ancient nations. |
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ElaineCunningham
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 18 Aug 2008 : 12:44:39
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Originally posted by Aulduron
I just finished the Last Mythal series. I thought it was good. I especialy liked the Elven history. I'd love to read a whole series about the ancient nations.
Star Wars novels are being written in several eras: the Clone Wars, post New Jedi Order, several centuries earlier. Theoretically, it would be possible for the Realms novels to take the same approach. I would pretty much drop everything (that wasn't under contract....) to write an epic history of the Crown Wars. |
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Icelander
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 18 Aug 2008 : 13:03:01
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Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
Star Wars novels are being written in several eras: the Clone Wars, post New Jedi Order, several centuries earlier. Theoretically, it would be possible for the Realms novels to take the same approach. I would pretty much drop everything (that wasn't under contract....) to write an epic history of the Crown Wars.
WotC has apparently stated that the novels are making more money than the game supplements. WotC likes money, for it keeps their dark masters happy in their infernal lairs.
You're one of their more popular novelists, I understand. Which means that at least some of the money triumphantly hoarded by Hasbro bean counters has come to them through your efforts. There is also a chance that you will yield more treasure for them in the future.
Therefore, a recommendation from you might carry some weight with them. If at all possible, argue for such an approach. Vocally, if necessary.
I'll buy Realms novels written in every single period of its history. With the exception of the period starting after 1375 DR, may it be stricken from all records.
Crown Wars are a good time, sure, but then again, so is the Weeping War. The fall of Phalorm. Ascalhorn.
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Aulduron
Learned Scribe
USA
343 Posts |
Posted - 18 Aug 2008 : 19:03:05
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Theoretically, it would be possible for the Realms novels to take the same approach. I would pretty much drop everything (that wasn't under contract....) to write an epic history of the Crown Wars.
Please do! That would more than make up for having no more Lireal books. The Crown Wars, the War of Three Leaves, Dragon Wars, stories of the Deep Shanatar, or ancient Delzoun, wars in Calimshan involving Djinn, Dragons, Dwarves, Efreet...etc could make fascinating reading, and I'd buy them up as fast as they could be published. |
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chance87
Seeker
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Posted - 19 Aug 2008 : 04:00:50
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Just let us know when we can pre-order!
quote:
Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
Star Wars novels are being written in several eras: the Clone Wars, post New Jedi Order, several centuries earlier. Theoretically, it would be possible for the Realms novels to take the same approach. I would pretty much drop everything (that wasn't under contract....) to write an epic history of the Crown Wars.
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Aulduron
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 19 Aug 2008 : 17:34:21
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| Wow, I feel foolish. I could have sworn I'd read Evermeet, before. However I just found the book in a box and decided to re-read it, and nothing, after Araushnee being thrown down, sounds familiar. I had no idea so much of it took place before the Crown Wars. |
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ElaineCunningham
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 19 Aug 2008 : 20:57:36
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Originally posted by Aulduron
Wow, I feel foolish. I could have sworn I'd read Evermeet, before. However I just found the book in a box and decided to re-read it, and nothing, after Araushnee being thrown down, sounds familiar. I had no idea so much of it took place before the Crown Wars.
Yes, quite a bit of the book retells elven legends and history--or at least, the version of history Danilo Thann was able to obtain.
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Aulduron
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 20 Aug 2008 : 05:06:30
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This is an excellent read! I can't believe I didn't read, or don't remember it. I must have bought it while married, and never got a chance to read it. I agree that the OP should read Evermeet.
You'd definitely be the best choice to write about the Crown Wars. |
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