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danbuter
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 Posted - 30 Jun 2008 : 00:38:22
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I've read a ton of FR books, and liked most of them. However, I've never read the Icewind Dale trilogy or any of the Drizzt books. I finally figured I'd at least read this trilogy, just to see what all the hoohaa is about. Thought I'd share.
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Arrevanthas
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 30 Jun 2008 : 00:45:58
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| I like Drizzt series to a point. It was because of this series that I really got into the rest of the Forgotten Realms series. I personally think that some of RAS's other books are better...and no not just the Demon Wars series...I like his Spearwielder's Tales and the Crimson Shadow series. I think those two are some of his best work. |
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Tasker Daze
Seeker
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Posted - 30 Jun 2008 : 03:36:43
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The books are okay... All of the fighting is, to me, mediocre -- I usually skip the fighting descriptions. I also skip the journal entries, because after a while, the constant whining and introspection gets really old.
I've read a few other Slavatore books, and I think he needs to stick to the Realms. |
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Arrevanthas
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 30 Jun 2008 : 05:15:04
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| I agree on some points. Some of the fighting scenes are pretty good, others I am like "Okay enough already" and I don't like the journal entries either. |
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Hawkins
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 30 Jun 2008 : 16:04:32
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| Personally, I really enjoy the play-by-play fight scenes, but that just happens to be my cup of tea I guess. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jun 2008 : 16:58:14
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I'm really not a fan of RAS's fight scenes, but a lot of people seem to like them, and I guess RAS knows what his core audience wants.
The books themselves are OK--not great, and pretty standard fare, but you might as well read them to "see what all the fuss is about." |
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MerrikCale
Senior Scribe
USA
947 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jun 2008 : 17:48:32
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The Crytsal Shard was my introduction to the FR so I am forever grateful for that. I actually like RAS' work.
My I also suggest the Trade comics from Devils Due of the Drizzt books. Excellent art and nice work overall |
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Arrevanthas
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 30 Jun 2008 : 18:09:40
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| The Dark Elf trilogy was my introduction to FR so I agree MerrikCale. I like his work but sometimes I think it drags on a bit but I still buy his books and read them. I am currently reading The Orc King. And as far as the comics go...I wasn't a bit fan of them....but to each his own. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jun 2008 : 18:12:43
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Originally posted by MerrikCale
The Crytsal Shard was my introduction to the FR so I am forever grateful for that. I actually like RAS' work.
The Crystal Shard was my first Realms book ever, actually, although my true introduction to the Realms was the Baldur's Gate CRPG.
I read The Crystal Shard and the rest of the trilogy because I kept reading about how those books were masterpieces of fantasy. I don't think I need mention whether or not I disagree with that assessment. |
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
3054 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jun 2008 : 19:40:03
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It's about time  . Honestly, the Icewind Dale trilogy is great in my opinion. There's a reason Salvatore is a NYT best seller. Of course you are entitled to your own opinion after you have read them. |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
USA
3567 Posts |
Posted - 01 Jul 2008 : 00:35:16
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| Icewind Dale Novels for me kept my Interest after I read Darkwalker on Moonshae grabbed attention and imagination! Both are a must read, but I always suggest reading the Moonshae Trilogy first, especially since it is out in stores now with new covers. |
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MerrikCale
Senior Scribe
USA
947 Posts |
Posted - 01 Jul 2008 : 03:32:04
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
I read The Crystal Shard and the rest of the trilogy because I kept reading about how those books were masterpieces of fantasy. I don't think I need mention whether or not I disagree with that assessment.
I actually loved them and still do |
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danbuter
Seeker
USA
74 Posts |
Posted - 03 Jul 2008 : 23:12:36
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| Finished The Crystal Shard. Now on Streams of Silver. The books aren't bad, but are not literature by any means. Personally, I like Bruenor better than any of the other characters. I did like the scene where Wulfgar returned to his tribe. That was well done. I also noticed the over-emphasis on combat. And the way it is written, Drizzt comes across as more evil than good. He likes to basically torture his opponents before killing them, which I think sucks pretty hard. Even if they are Verbeeg. |
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MasksChosenOne
Acolyte
USA
27 Posts |
Posted - 10 Jul 2008 : 17:43:57
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| I also love the Drizzt books and I'm wondering after what series should I start WoTSQ ? As in should I read the entire Drizzt series? or can I start after a certain book ? |
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Hawkins
Great Reader
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2131 Posts |
Posted - 10 Jul 2008 : 18:00:08
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| I would read either the Songs and Swords or Starlight and Shadows series by Elaine Cunningham or the Sembia series by various authors, which also introduces the character Ervis Cale (who gets two trilogies of his own afterward and has stolen Drizzt's place as my favorite Realms character). Greenwood, Schend, Denning, and Cordell are also authors I would recommend. I would start and stop with one or more of the sub-series (i.e. Dark Elf Trilogy, Icewind Dale Trilogy, Legacy of the Drow, Paths of Darkness, & Hunter's Blades Trilogy) in the Drizzt series. The WoTSQ is not part of the Drizzt Series, it is a separate series detailing other drow characters. |
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MerrikCale
Senior Scribe
USA
947 Posts |
Posted - 11 Jul 2008 : 02:43:47
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seeker
Acolyte
Denmark
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Posted - 11 Jul 2008 : 14:11:34
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Hi, I'm new here. I've recently read the Icewind Dale trilogy and the first two novels in the Dark Elf trilogy. This has been my first and good experience with the Forgotten Realms world.
I have a little question. In the novel Exile, Drizzt and Belwar encounter a creature called Clacker. He's supposedly a pech turned into a Hook Horror by a crazed wizard. But I have never in D&D heard of a creature called a "pech". Where can i read some further information about this race? Is there some further info in some FR gaming materials perhaps?
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Arrevanthas
Acolyte
USA
19 Posts |
Posted - 11 Jul 2008 : 15:46:24
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Originally posted by MerrikCale
I like the Cleric Quintet
Agreed. Cleric Quintet was a very good series. |
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Hawkins
Great Reader
USA
2131 Posts |
Posted - 11 Jul 2008 : 16:35:17
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Originally posted by Arrevanthas
quote:
Originally posted by MerrikCale
I like the Cleric Quintet
Agreed. Cleric Quintet was a very good series.
Oops,  didn't mean to leave that one out, and since it takes place somewhere towards the middle of the Paths of Darkness mini Drizzt series, it would not bad to read after Siege of Darkness (I think that Cadderly shows up in Passage to Dawn, please correct me if I am wrong). |
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One, two! One, two! And through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back. --Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass
"Mmm, not the darkness," Myrin murmured. "Don't cast it there." --Erik Scott de Bie, Shadowbane
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My game design work:
* Heroes of the Jade Oath (PFRPG, conversion; Rite Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 1: Cantrips & Orisons (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 2: 1st-Level Spells (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Martial Arts Guidebook (forthcoming) (PFRPG, designer; Rite Publishing)
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Arrevanthas
Acolyte
USA
19 Posts |
Posted - 11 Jul 2008 : 17:48:01
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| I think he does but I am not too sure...and I really don't feel like pulling out book after book trying to find it in my bookcase (I need a new one but have no room!! @.@) |
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danbuter
Seeker
USA
74 Posts |
Posted - 13 Jul 2008 : 01:49:00
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| Finished the Icewind Dale trilogy this week. Books 2 and 3 get MUCH better than book 1. I still think Bruenor is the best character of the lot, with Wulfgar and Regis following closely. Drizzt was a decent character, but I honestly don't understand why he became the MVP of the Realms. At least I've read the initial trilogy, and it wasn't bad at all. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 13 Jul 2008 : 04:07:33
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Originally posted by seeker
But I have never in D&D heard of a creature called a "pech". Where can i read some further information about this race? Is there some further info in some FR gaming materials perhaps?
Cheers
Steffen
Regarding pechs, you can probably learn about them from 2E material--I don't think they were ever dealt with in the more recent sourcebooks. I don't recall much about pechs besides them being a type of benign earth elemental type race. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Hawkins
Great Reader
USA
2131 Posts |
Posted - 14 Jul 2008 : 03:30:21
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| This link on Wikipedia has a bit about pechs from RW Mythology, and a tiny bit about them in D&D. |
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One, two! One, two! And through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back. --Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass
"Mmm, not the darkness," Myrin murmured. "Don't cast it there." --Erik Scott de Bie, Shadowbane
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* Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Reference Document (PFRPG OGL Rules)
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* Compendium Arcanum Volume 1: Cantrips & Orisons (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 2: 1st-Level Spells (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Martial Arts Guidebook (forthcoming) (PFRPG, designer; Rite Publishing)
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Faraer
Great Reader
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Posted - 14 Jul 2008 : 03:46:13
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The AD&D pech first appeared in the major scenario S4 The Lost Caverns of Tsojcanth and was then included in the original Monster Manual II.quote:
Pech are thin beings of dwarven stature. They have long arms and legs, broad feet and hands, and pale, yellowish skin. Their hair is red or reddish-brown. They have large eyes with no pupils. Their flesh is
nearly as hard as granite.
The origin of the pech is unknown, although some believe that the pech come from the Elemental Plane of Earth. They live underground or in dark places, and are marvellous workers of stone. Pech are basically good creatures who generally want to be left to themselves. They have both infravision (60') and ultravision, and hate bright light and open skies. . .
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MasksChosenOne
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 14 Jul 2008 : 04:01:11
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Greetings ,
Wasn't Clacker (Exile) a pech that was turned into a ....wow the name escapes me (sorry)
HA! edit* clacker turned into a hook horror !
Sorry for that ,
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Edited by - MasksChosenOne on 14 Jul 2008 04:22:36 |
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Hawkins
Great Reader
USA
2131 Posts |
Posted - 14 Jul 2008 : 17:05:55
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Originally posted by MasksChosenOne
Greetings ,
Wasn't Clacker (Exile) a pech that was turned into a ....wow the name escapes me (sorry)
HA! edit* clacker turned into a hook horror !
Sorry for that ,
~Ashley
Yes, Clacker was a pech who had been polymorphed into a Hook Horror. |
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One, two! One, two! And through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back. --Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass
"Mmm, not the darkness," Myrin murmured. "Don't cast it there." --Erik Scott de Bie, Shadowbane
* My character sheets (PFRPG, 3.5, and AE versions; not viewable in Internet Explorer)
* Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Reference Document (PFRPG OGL Rules)
* The Hypertext d20 SRD (3.5 OGL Rules)
* 3.5 D&D Archives
My game design work:
* Heroes of the Jade Oath (PFRPG, conversion; Rite Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 1: Cantrips & Orisons (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 2: 1st-Level Spells (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Martial Arts Guidebook (forthcoming) (PFRPG, designer; Rite Publishing)
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Arrevanthas
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 14 Jul 2008 : 17:26:47
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Originally posted by danbuter
Finished the Icewind Dale trilogy this week. Books 2 and 3 get MUCH better than book 1. I still think Bruenor is the best character of the lot, with Wulfgar and Regis following closely. Drizzt was a decent character, but I honestly don't understand why he became the MVP of the Realms. At least I've read the initial trilogy, and it wasn't bad at all.
You know I have to agree. I like Drizzt, don't get me wrong but I think there are other characters that I like more. Wulfgar is one of my favorites along with Bruenor. I absolutely hate Catti-brie with a flaming passion. Regis was alright to a point before he got on my nerves...I don't like Artemis...it sucks though because aside from Wulfgar and Bruenor, the characters I take an immediate liking to...RAS kills them. |
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Nkoda
Acolyte
USA
40 Posts |
Posted - 14 Jul 2008 : 23:57:23
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| Oh the ANGST!! i like Jarlaxle. |
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Hawkins
Great Reader
USA
2131 Posts |
Posted - 15 Jul 2008 : 17:37:38
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Originally posted by Nkoda
Oh the ANGST!! i like Jarlaxle.
Last I checked (Road to the Patriarch), both Artemis and Jarlaxle were alive and well. We shall have to wait and see as to their status in the 4e Realms. I have a feeling both may have found their way there. |
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One, two! One, two! And through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back. --Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass
"Mmm, not the darkness," Myrin murmured. "Don't cast it there." --Erik Scott de Bie, Shadowbane
* My character sheets (PFRPG, 3.5, and AE versions; not viewable in Internet Explorer)
* Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Reference Document (PFRPG OGL Rules)
* The Hypertext d20 SRD (3.5 OGL Rules)
* 3.5 D&D Archives
My game design work:
* Heroes of the Jade Oath (PFRPG, conversion; Rite Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 1: Cantrips & Orisons (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 2: 1st-Level Spells (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Martial Arts Guidebook (forthcoming) (PFRPG, designer; Rite Publishing)
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Finally going to read Icewind Dale
