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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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 Posted - 12 Jun 2009 : 15:56:17
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Originally posted by Ayunken-vanzan
Leng was first mentioned in Pathfinder #6 "Spires of Xin-Shalast", where we got some background information on the plane of Leng (including it's ties to the Lovecraftian myhtos). Since then the denizens of Leng are part of Golarion's cosmology. Their most recent appearance is in Pathfinder # 21 The Jackal's Price.
I see. I did not know that, because I'm just starting my Golarion collection, and currently I'm working on getting the Chronicles stuff.  |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 12 Jun 2009 : 16:14:51
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Ayunken-vanzan
Leng was first mentioned in Pathfinder #6 "Spires of Xin-Shalast", where we got some background information on the plane of Leng (including it's ties to the Lovecraftian myhtos). Since then the denizens of Leng are part of Golarion's cosmology. Their most recent appearance is in Pathfinder # 21 The Jackal's Price.
I see. I did not know that, because I'm just starting my Golarion collection, and currently I'm working on getting the Chronicles stuff.
I've really got to start getting into Pathfinder. I suddenly feel so left behind.
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Hawkins
Great Reader
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Posted - 12 Jun 2009 : 16:18:42
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I see. I did not know that, because I'm just starting my Golarion collection, and currently I'm working on getting the Chronicles stuff.
I've really got to start getting into Pathfinder. I suddenly feel so left behind.
I have actually decided to start collecting Monte Cook's Arcana Evolved books. I already have the core book, which is the most expensive and hard to find, and the two anthologies (both have short stories by Ed). There are only 3-5 other source books to grab and I will have it all. Then maybe I will look into collecting Pathfinder, but in the past year and 3/4 there is a lot of material that has been put out... |
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Shemmy
Senior Scribe
USA
492 Posts |
Posted - 12 Jun 2009 : 17:27:01
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
So I was reading The Great Beyond last night... And I read about the plane of Leng. I wonder how many people realize that was almost entirely Cthulhu-based?
It was neat to have Leng and its lovecraftian origins there in some of the earlier Pathfinder material, and getting to touch upon it some in the demiplanes and other dimensions chapter. :)
Outside of being Lovecraftian in origin/inspiration, I included a couple of CA Smith easter eggs (though I should probably re-read the final pdf to make sure they survived the editing process, heh). Might have been obscure perhaps, but along with him and HPL being mutual inspirations for the other's work, he's one of my favorite writers (possibly more so than HPL himself). |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36912 Posts |
Posted - 12 Jun 2009 : 18:07:47
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Originally posted by Shemmy
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
So I was reading The Great Beyond last night... And I read about the plane of Leng. I wonder how many people realize that was almost entirely Cthulhu-based?
It was neat to have Leng and its lovecraftian origins there in some of the earlier Pathfinder material, and getting to touch upon it some in the demiplanes and other dimensions chapter. :)
Outside of being Lovecraftian in origin/inspiration, I included a couple of CA Smith easter eggs (though I should probably re-read the final pdf to make sure they survived the editing process, heh). Might have been obscure perhaps, but along with him and HPL being mutual inspirations for the other's work, he's one of my favorite writers (possibly more so than HPL himself).
Well, I don't know CA Smith... And while I have read some Lovecraft (I just this morn, because of my comment, tracked down to read the short story "The Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath"), I can't call myself a fan. In fact, the way I recognized the name was because I remembered it from Needful Things! Steven King made a couple of Cthulhu references in that one, including a reference to the plains of Leng. I've not read that book in several years (the last time I read any Steven King was during the hurricane-induced power outages of 2004; I'm not sure whether or not that book is one I'll replace, either), but I remembered those Cthulhu references he made. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Shemmy
Senior Scribe
USA
492 Posts |
Posted - 13 Jun 2009 : 01:53:06
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Well, I don't know CA Smith...
Shemmy's referring to Clark Ashton Smith.
Yep. Awesome writer, and looking at his body of work, most of which was written within the span of nine years, I feel very similar to how Ceasar did when he looked up at the statue of Alexander the Great. Nine year span of fiction activity more or less, and he produced what he did. Scary talented, and sadly often overshadowed by Robert E Howard and Lovecraft.
The website "The Eldritch Dark" has a pretty massive collection of Smith's work, most all of which is in the public domain at this point.
And for the easter eggs, they're mostly in the section on the Plane of Dreams, rather than Leng. Though of course, the two might be linked.
I had a blast with the demiplanes etc chapter. My favorites were probably The Lost and the Prison of the Laughing Fiend. Pretty short entries for each, but they're the two I'm most tempted to use (I did use a variation on The Lost in my first Planescape game). Tegresin the Laughing Fiend would be a joy to use however, both as antagonist or manipulative ally.
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Purple Dragon Knight
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1796 Posts |
Posted - 13 Jun 2009 : 02:52:57
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There are rare times in a new father's life where one can kick back and read the multiple glorious Golarion products he has accumulated so far.
Tonight is such a night!
A main course of Great Beyond, followed by a side dish of Osirion, a slight dessert of Taldor, and a sorbet of Dragons Revisited await this old Knight... 
The Legacy of Fire AP articles and Elaine Cunningham fiction will be the post-feast "coffee", of course!  |
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Ayunken-vanzan
Senior Scribe
Germany
657 Posts |
Posted - 14 Jun 2009 : 16:50:02
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Just pointing out to this post on the Paizo boards:
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They also said Kingslayer will be extremely sandbox-y, and many of the NPCs and such are being done by Ed Greenwood. James also mentioned what might be the 7th AP, to launch at GenCon 2010: an AP called "The Jade Regent" which would follow Ameiko Kaijitsu ...
I will search for more information and post it here. |
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ElaineCunningham
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 14 Jun 2009 : 18:41:02
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Originally posted by Purple Dragon Knight
There are rare times in a new father's life...
Ooh! Congratulations!
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The Legacy of Fire AP articles and Elaine Cunningham fiction will be the post-feast "coffee", of course!
Hope you enjoy the story. |
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Uzzy
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
618 Posts |
Posted - 14 Jun 2009 : 23:07:25
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More Ed Greenwood and more Ameiko = Good stuff. Looking forward to more Paizo goodness.
I'm also jealous of you lucky people who get to enjoy PaizoCon. |
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Ayunken-vanzan
Senior Scribe
Germany
657 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jun 2009 : 21:36:18
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Sadly I could not find any more infos about Ed's involvement with the 2010 adventure path.
Further news: The new adventure The Impossible Eye (Legacy of Fire 5) is about to ship, subscribers already have the PDF. It takes place in the City of Brass, and in this volume we get an article by Wolfgang Baur about this famous city (which, by the way, after flipping through the pages, looks awesome). And of course: Elaine Cunningham's story continues!
On a related note: The GameMastery Guide was anounced during PaizoCon and may be of interest to some scribes. |
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Asgetrion
Master of Realmslore
Finland
1564 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jun 2009 : 18:39:30
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Originally posted by Ayunken-vanzan
Just pointing out to this post on the Paizo boards:
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They also said Kingslayer will be extremely sandbox-y, and many of the NPCs and such are being done by Ed Greenwood. James also mentioned what might be the 7th AP, to launch at GenCon 2010: an AP called "The Jade Regent" which would follow Ameiko Kaijitsu ...
I will search for more information and post it here.
Ooh... NPCs written by Ed! That's great news! Not that I wasn't going to buy this AP anyway... |
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
USA
3249 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jun 2009 : 18:51:43
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Will we find out the Mirt hasn't passed away in the Realms but rather stumbled through a gate and wound up in Golarion?
Please? |
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Ayunken-vanzan
Senior Scribe
Germany
657 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jun 2009 : 11:07:37
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| Last weekend there was PaizoCon where you could get a free fanzine, the Wayfinder. The PDF of this magazine is now a free download on the Paizo site; think of a "Candlekeep Compendium for Golarion". |
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Edited by - Ayunken-vanzan on 19 Jun 2009 11:08:39 |
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Purple Dragon Knight
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1796 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jun 2009 : 04:59:16
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Got myself a few copies of the "Bonus Bestiary" by DMing some Pathfinder Society games during this weekend's Free RPG Day, at a FLGS nearby...
I must say the art, rules and one-page monster format are impressive. Faerie Dragons are back, too! |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jun 2009 : 06:18:59
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Originally posted by Purple Dragon Knight
I must say the art, rules and one-page monster format are impressive. Faerie Dragons are back, too!
Are they the 2e faerie dragons or those creepy 3e versions that didn't look anything like a faerie dragon? |
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Nightseer
Acolyte
45 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jun 2009 : 07:20:40
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I downloaded the Pathfinder Fanzine today. 3.5 Survives! 3.5 Thrives! Those who got it know what I mean. |
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freyar
Learned Scribe
Canada
220 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jun 2009 : 13:36:53
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Originally posted by Kuje
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Originally posted by Purple Dragon Knight
I must say the art, rules and one-page monster format are impressive. Faerie Dragons are back, too!
Are they the 2e faerie dragons or those creepy 3e versions that didn't look anything like a faerie dragon?
Well, the art is all new, but the statistics are more like the 1e/2e faerie dragon than the 3e version in the Draconomicon. In fact, the conversion is based somewhat on the 3e version in Necromancer Games's Tome of Horrors. I like the Pathfinder version even better than the ToH version, though, since it gives the faerie dragon sorcerer spellcasting rather than a unique (and awkward) mechanic of a random chance to "replicate" a given spell.
By the way, the Bonus Bestiary is a really nice little book, updating about 6 monsters from the 3.5 MM/SRD and 7 others (based on the ToH conversions). I've posted comparisons to the MM monsters over at ENWorld. In that thread, Erik Mona confirmed that the Bestiary will use the same 1 page/monster format, so that means there will be room for plenty of good fluff. |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jun 2009 : 17:18:08
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Originally posted by freyar
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Originally posted by Kuje
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Originally posted by Purple Dragon Knight
I must say the art, rules and one-page monster format are impressive. Faerie Dragons are back, too!
Are they the 2e faerie dragons or those creepy 3e versions that didn't look anything like a faerie dragon?
Well, the art is all new, but the statistics are more like the 1e/2e faerie dragon than the 3e version in the Draconomicon. In fact, the conversion is based somewhat on the 3e version in Necromancer Games's Tome of Horrors. I like the Pathfinder version even better than the ToH version, though, since it gives the faerie dragon sorcerer spellcasting rather than a unique (and awkward) mechanic of a random chance to "replicate" a given spell.
By the way, the Bonus Bestiary is a really nice little book, updating about 6 monsters from the 3.5 MM/SRD and 7 others (based on the ToH conversions). I've posted comparisons to the MM monsters over at ENWorld. In that thread, Erik Mona confirmed that the Bestiary will use the same 1 page/monster format, so that means there will be room for plenty of good fluff.
Ah, cool. I was talking about the artwork because the 3e version, least the artwork, just doesn't look like a faerie dragon. :) But, I'm bias I suppose because I fell in love with faerie dragons due to the Moonshae novels. |
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Purple Dragon Knight
Master of Realmslore
Canada
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Posted - 22 Jun 2009 : 20:13:41
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Yesss!!! they are the good old Faerie Dragons you know and love, but in PRPG rules!!!
5-foot cone breath weapon of Euphoria!!! (simultaneously sickened, staggered, and immune to all fear effects on a failed save: great way to enter a red dragon's cave... only if you plan to give him gifts or enter in diplomacy with him... otherwise the 'staggered/sickened' works a bit against you! lol! At least you don't soil your pants with the dragon's fear aura, and you keep a cool head during the talks and/or as he eats you! lol!)
Invisibility, Greater 3/day (on self only)
Lots of 1st/0th level spell-like abilities...
Size: Tiny.
Fly 60 (good)
Other abilities I forget... (DHTBIFOM)
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The Dragonne is also there, with a sidebar for rules for paladin / druid / ranger animal companion.
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jun 2009 : 20:37:48
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| Knifty. Hope I can find this book then. :) |
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Ayunken-vanzan
Senior Scribe
Germany
657 Posts |
Posted - 23 Jun 2009 : 00:28:31
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| The free pdf of the Bonus Bestiary is now available for everyone. |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 23 Jun 2009 : 03:05:22
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Originally posted by Ayunken-vanzan
The free pdf of the Bonus Bestiary is now available for everyone.
Fantastic! |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 23 Jun 2009 : 05:03:25
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Originally posted by Kuje
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Originally posted by Ayunken-vanzan
The free pdf of the Bonus Bestiary is now available for everyone.
Fantastic!
Neat! It includes info on using faerie dragons as familiars. I'm going to have some fun with that. |
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Nightseer
Acolyte
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Posted - 23 Jun 2009 : 07:58:22
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Originally posted by Ayunken-vanzan
The free pdf of the Bonus Bestiary is now available for everyone.
Just downloaded it!.  |
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Asgetrion
Master of Realmslore
Finland
1564 Posts |
Posted - 23 Jun 2009 : 13:28:02
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| And it seems that Steven is also contributing to 'Cheliax - Empire of Devils'... that's great news! Now we only need to get George "I-will-grow-a-beard-soon" Krashos and Eric Boyd on the Paizo crew... |
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Steven Schend
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author
USA
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Posted - 23 Jun 2009 : 13:59:30
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And it seems that Steven is also contributing to 'Cheliax - Empire of Devils'... that's great news! Now we only need to get George "I-will-grow-a-beard-soon" Krashos and Eric Boyd on the Paizo crew...
Truth be told, I wrote the Westcrown material for the 1st Adventure Path of Council of Thieves. Alas, my curse took hold and I overwrote by a good deal, which is why I've got multiple credits in Golarion now. After all, I couldn't be expected to think about the city of Westcrown and not put it into historical or geographical perspective now, could I?  |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 23 Jun 2009 : 14:27:53
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Originally posted by Asgetrion
And it seems that Steven is also contributing to 'Cheliax - Empire of Devils'... that's great news!
Awesome! I'm bumping this up several places on my "Must-Have" list.  |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 23 Jun 2009 : 16:25:58
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So my 'Schend fan-boism' and cheerleading over there on their boards early-on did pay-off, eh?
Thats great to hear. I hope Golarion continues to grow and become a world worthy of being FR's successor. |
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