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Kuje
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Posted - 23 Jun 2009 :  17:12:46  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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quote:
Originally posted by Asgetrion

And it seems that Steven is also contributing to 'Cheliax - Empire of Devils'... that's great news!
Awesome! I'm bumping this up several places on my "Must-Have" list.



OHHHHHHHHHHHH! Wicked! Wonderful. Steven's geographical books have always been one of my favorites.

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And it seems that Steven is also contributing to 'Cheliax - Empire of Devils'... that's great news! Now we only need to get George "I-will-grow-a-beard-soon" Krashos and Eric Boyd on the Paizo crew...



That sounds awesome! I can't wait to see his spin on it.

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quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

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Originally posted by Ayunken-vanzan

The free pdf of the Bonus Bestiary is now available for everyone.



Fantastic!

Neat! It includes info on using faerie dragons as familiars. I'm going to have some fun with that.



I ran by my FLGS this afternoon, and they still had a bunch of Free RPG Day stuff left over. I grabbed a couple copies of the Bonus Bestiary, and one of just about everything else. I even grabbed a 4E D&D module, Khyber's Harvest. I don't expect to find anything of use in there, but since it was free, I decided it didn't hurt to look.

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quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Asgetrion

And it seems that Steven is also contributing to 'Cheliax - Empire of Devils'... that's great news!
Awesome! I'm bumping this up several places on my "Must-Have" list.



OHHHHHHHHHHHH! Wicked! Wonderful. Steven's geographical books have always been one of my favorites.

That's the same for me as well. There's a reason, after all, why I always purchased two of every FR tome/boxed set that had Sage Schend's name attached.

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Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

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Originally posted by Ayunken-vanzan

The free pdf of the Bonus Bestiary is now available for everyone.



Fantastic!

Neat! It includes info on using faerie dragons as familiars. I'm going to have some fun with that.



I ran by my FLGS this afternoon, and they still had a bunch of Free RPG Day stuff left over. I grabbed a couple copies of the Bonus Bestiary, and one of just about everything else. I even grabbed a 4E D&D module, Khyber's Harvest. I don't expect to find anything of use in there, but since it was free, I decided it didn't hurt to look.

I briefly flicked through Khyber's Harvest yesterday. 'Twas nice to see a few new Khyber-related tidbits in the module itself. I'm curious to see if/how they'll be expanded upon in the EBCG and EBPG.

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Asgetrion
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Posted - 25 Jun 2009 :  01:24:29  Show Profile  Visit Asgetrion's Homepage Send Asgetrion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Markustay

So my 'Schend fan-boism' and cheerleading over there on their boards early-on did pay-off, eh?

Thats great to hear. I hope Golarion continues to grow and become a world worthy of being FR's successor.



Nah, it was our fervent Chelaxian prayers to Asmodeus!

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OK, Paizo has announced the price for the pdf of their 576 pages core rulebook which will be sold in August. The pdf will cost ... um .... 9.99 $

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 26 Jun 2009 :  15:02:44  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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OK, Paizo has announced the price for the pdf of their 576 pages core rulebook which will be sold in August. The pdf will cost ... um .... 9.99 $



What's the price of the print copy?

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Ashe Ravenheart
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Posted - 26 Jun 2009 :  16:09:13  Show Profile Send Ashe Ravenheart a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Print copy is going to be $49.99 at Paizo.com.

However, Amazon has the book available for pre-order at 31.49.

Which means that if you buy the book at Amazon and the PDF at Paizo, you'll be getting both for $41.48, still saving money.

I think I'm going to have to postpone my subscription to the PFRPG...

I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.

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Ayunken-vanzan
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Posted - 26 Jun 2009 :  18:45:36  Show Profile  Visit Ayunken-vanzan's Homepage Send Ayunken-vanzan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If you have Pathfinder Advantage, you'll get the print copy for 42.49 $. But you have to add shipping.

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Knight of the Gate
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Posted - 26 Jun 2009 :  18:59:28  Show Profile Send Knight of the Gate a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Ayunken-vanzan

OK, Paizo has announced the price for the pdf of their 576 pages core rulebook which will be sold in August. The pdf will cost ... um .... 9.99 $



So, in other words, there's no reason NOT to own this. The best part is that while I intend to get a hard copy, my players (who notoriously don't like shelling out for books) can all get the PDF and not be borrowing my books all the frigging time to look up spell descriptions while we play.

Paizo strikes again.

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Ashe Ravenheart
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Posted - 26 Jun 2009 :  19:13:25  Show Profile Send Ashe Ravenheart a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Ayunken-vanzan

If you have Pathfinder Advantage, you'll get the print copy for 42.49 $. But you have to add shipping.



Oh, I figured it all out. As soon as the subscription opened, I signed up for it, since you get the PDF for free and I figured it would be about the same as other PDFs of like-sized books (around $30).

With the subscription, you get the book and PDF for $42.49 + $8.25 S&H (total $50.74).

I have the Adventure Path subscription already, so I'll be getting the PDF at the $8.50 cost. The hardcover I've now pre-ordered through Amazon for $31.49 and free shipping (since it's over $25). So my total cost for the book and PDF is $39.99. A savings of $10.75.

I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.

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Asgetrion
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Posted - 26 Jun 2009 :  22:48:25  Show Profile  Visit Asgetrion's Homepage Send Asgetrion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend

quote:
Originally posted by Asgetrion

And it seems that Steven is also contributing to 'Cheliax - Empire of Devils'... that's great news! Now we only need to get George "I-will-grow-a-beard-soon" Krashos and Eric Boyd on the Paizo crew...



Truth be told, I wrote the Westcrown material for the 1st Adventure Path of Council of Thieves. Alas, my curse took hold and I overwrote by a good deal, which is why I've got multiple credits in Golarion now. After all, I couldn't be expected to think about the city of Westcrown and not put it into historical or geographical perspective now, could I?



Why am I not surprised to hear this?

I'm glad that you did, and I honestly hope that you will write even more for Paizo. Your work on FR has always been absolutely brilliant, and I expect no less of your Cheliax stuff!

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The Sage
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Posted - 27 Jun 2009 :  01:04:57  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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OK, Paizo has announced the price for the pdf of their 576 pages core rulebook which will be sold in August. The pdf will cost ... um .... 9.99 $

Okay, so do we know whether the PF core rulebook will contain any actual setting info, or is it all rules material? Everything I've read about the book so far, suggests the latter. I'm asking because I intend to run my future "Golarion" games using my own homebrew-ruleset, so I'm just wondering whether it's actually necessary for me to purchase this hefty tome.

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Kuje
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Posted - 27 Jun 2009 :  01:38:47  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Ayunken-vanzan

OK, Paizo has announced the price for the pdf of their 576 pages core rulebook which will be sold in August. The pdf will cost ... um .... 9.99 $

Okay, so do we know whether the PF core rulebook will contain any actual setting info, or is it all rules material? Everything I've read about the book so far, suggests the latter. I'm asking because I intend to run my future "Golarion" games using my own homebrew-ruleset, so I'm just wondering whether it's actually necessary for me to purchase this hefty tome.



I'm assuming the PF core book is actually all the rules updates/changes since they already released the Golarion campaign setting book.

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That's what I'm thinking. I'm also curious whether it'll be something like the Forgotten Realms Player's Guide, which features the occasional snippet of new lore.

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The only Pathfinder setting material that will be in the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game rulebooks will be the gods (in the same way that the core PH for 3.5 had a handful of the the major Greyhawk gods) and the Pathfinder Chronicler PrC in the same manner that the DMG for 3.5 had the Red Wizard), as kind of an example of a setting specific PrC.

Everything that is part of the RPG line (like the Bestiary and the recently announced GameMastery Guide) will be setting generic (although if they keep the same monster line up as the Bonus Bestiary intimates, goblin dogs will make it in the bestiary as a "general" monster).
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Aye, the RPG and its respective subscription is for products of the Pathfinder (or 3.P) rules set.

If you're looking for lore, I recommend the Pathfinder Chronicles subscription service. All the products within seem to be edition/rules neutral and more about the story of the setting.

Also, the Adventure Path subscription does have lore on the places the adventure takes you (the latest The Impossible Eye has a terrific article on the City of Brass), and has more of a feel of the Dragon/Dungeon mags of old. There's also Companion volumes to the APs, which are designed to 'expound' on the AP setting and is usually set up as a guidebook for the players in the game.

I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.

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Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart


If you're looking for lore, I recommend the Pathfinder Chronicles subscription service. All the products within seem to be edition/rules neutral and more about the story of the setting.

Also, the Adventure Path subscription does have lore on the places the adventure takes you (the latest The Impossible Eye has a terrific article on the City of Brass), and has more of a feel of the Dragon/Dungeon mags of old. There's also Companion volumes to the APs, which are designed to 'expound' on the AP setting and is usually set up as a guidebook for the players in the game.

I've got most of the Chronicle and Companion stuff already. My GOLARION book shelf has indeed grown rather rapidly in the last few weeks.

I was really just curious as to whether there would be any new snippets of lore featured in the PF core rulebook.

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Ashe Ravenheart
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Ahhh... another one fallen to the dark side.

Yeah, as noted before RPG book is almost entirely rules. The Beta pdf was 410 pages, then there were 113 pages of Web Enhancements (more spells, magic items and such), so it looks like the 500+ pages will be totally rules oriented. Their looking at this book being a combination of PHB/DMG so you only need one book (to rule them all! Mwuh-hahahahahaha! *ahem*).

I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.

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Ahhh... another one fallen to the dark side.
Well, I was pretty much sold on GOLARION when I first heard Ed, Elaine, Steven, and Todd/Shemmy were all going to be involved in upcoming works. I'm not looking at Pathfinder as an alternative to the Realms though. Nothing can ever replace my love for Ed's world. But GOLARION itself is rapidly coming to occupy the same place of reverence I've long held for other campaign settings, like PLANESCAPE, SPELLJAMMER, DRAGONLANCE, RAVENLOFT, MIDNIGHT, EBERRON, and STAR*DRIVE.

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Ahhh... another one fallen to the dark side.
Yesss... indeed! let your anger flow THROUGH YOU!!!

But seriously, I've jokingly referred to Golarion as the "dark side" on the CK boards, 'cause if Golarion is the dark side, what is WotC?
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The back side!

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The back side!


O snap! BTW, here's a helpful 'Oh Snap' flowchart:http://www.flickr.com/photos/vjornaxx/294168009/

So, on topic: So is there a 'core' Golarion book, akin to the FRCS? Or am I gonna have to get all the issues and modules I've missed? I'm starting a new game next weekend, and would love to try Golarion, but I have little to no info on it.

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Originally posted by Knight of the Gate

So, on topic: So is there a 'core' Golarion book, akin to the FRCS? Or am I gonna have to get all the issues and modules I've missed? I'm starting a new game next weekend, and would love to try Golarion, but I have little to no info on it.



Yes, go back a few pages or so in this thread because I reviewed it. :) It's the Campaign Setting book. It starts around page 5 and goes to around page 8 of this thread.

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quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

quote:
Originally posted by Knight of the Gate

So, on topic: So is there a 'core' Golarion book, akin to the FRCS? Or am I gonna have to get all the issues and modules I've missed? I'm starting a new game next weekend, and would love to try Golarion, but I have little to no info on it.



Yes, go back a few pages or so in this thread because I reviewed it. :) It's the Campaign Setting book. It starts around page 5 and goes to around page 8 of this thread.



And it's a worthy product. I quite enjoyed reading it.

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quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

quote:
Originally posted by Knight of the Gate

So, on topic: So is there a 'core' Golarion book, akin to the FRCS? Or am I gonna have to get all the issues and modules I've missed? I'm starting a new game next weekend, and would love to try Golarion, but I have little to no info on it.



Yes, go back a few pages or so in this thread because I reviewed it. :) It's the Campaign Setting book. It starts around page 5 and goes to around page 8 of this thread.



And it's a worthy product. I quite enjoyed reading it.

Indeed. I'm still working my way through it. It's quite detailed.

Oh, and Knight, see here.

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And I see the latest PDF -- Dungeon Denizens Revisited -- has been released. Anyone downloaded it yet?

I'll likely purchase it sometime later today.

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And I see the latest PDF -- Dungeon Denizens Revisited -- has been released. Anyone downloaded it yet?

I'll likely purchase it sometime later today.




I picked it up in my order yesterday, along with the planar book, Taldor, and #4 of the new monthly series.

I haven't read through the Denizen's book yet but it looks pretty interesting and it contains text about ten different monsters.

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And I see the latest PDF -- Dungeon Denizens Revisited -- has been released. Anyone downloaded it yet?

I'll likely purchase it sometime later today.



I got my copy in the Mail. I have not "looked" at it, yet it seems like a really nice tome.

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