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MerrikCale
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 Posted - 15 May 2008 : 16:02:44
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Cosnidering that most of us here have no interest in 4e realms, I wonder if you will still read the novels set in that timeframe.
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 15 May 2008 : 16:09:18
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Nope, except for the current trilogies that started in 3e. However, I wasn't happy to learn that Undead contains some 4e material but once that trilogy, the lady pent trilogy, and the planar trilogy are finished, I'm done with FR novels if they are set in the 1400+ FR.
I've already skipped over Rich's new trilogy since it's set in 1400+.
The only exception I might make for this is Steven's continuation of Blackstaff. I'm still on the fence though about it.
However, I want to add that this, to me, isn't a slight against the authors but it's because I'm just not interested in the new Realms. |
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BARDOBARBAROS
Senior Scribe
Greece
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Posted - 15 May 2008 : 18:00:05
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| I'm currently far behind from the 4th edition events in FR novels...When I will finish all novels until 4th edition i will decide... |
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Hoondatha
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 15 May 2008 : 19:03:59
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| No. I'm not even going to finish trilogies that wander into 4e territory (Undead being the exception, since I bought it before I realized that the Spellplague was in it). Pretty much the only book left on my list is Sword Never Sleeps, though like Kuje I'm on the fence about Blackstaff Tower. |
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Ranak
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 15 May 2008 : 19:09:44
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Is there a difference, other than semantic, between Post-Spellplague and 4ed?
The novel Undead already shows us post-spell plague Faerun.
And, I suspect a few of the remaining trilogies will touch on it as well. The Empyrean Oddessy for example, appears to feature Cyric prominently - since he plays a large part in the spell plague, it would not surprise me if this series slips into post-Spellplague.
Ascendency if the Last and Shadowrealm are both upcoming, and seem to be "set up" novels to explain some of the 4ed changes - the nuking of the Drow pantheon and the establishment of a new Netheril through Sembia.
So... the definition of a 4ed novel could mean any of the above.
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I'm currently far behind from the 4th edition events in FR novels...When I will finish all novels until 4th edition i will decide...
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 15 May 2008 : 19:16:28
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I'm on the fence about post-Spellplague novels, or even most of the current trilogies. The only novel I'm really looking forward to, at this point, is The Sword Never Sleeps. And Bruce Cordell's upcoming abolethic sovereignty trilogy doesn't interest me at all.
Over the past few months, I've definitely rethought my (rather silly, but heartfelt) desire to read every book about the Realms setting, that's for sure. |
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Jorkens
Great Reader
Norway
2950 Posts |
Posted - 15 May 2008 : 19:47:59
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| I cut severely down on the Realms novels years ago. I just didn't like the newer ones as much as the older ones. I will keep buying Eds novels and will probably get Stevens. Other than that I have no plans. |
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BARDOBARBAROS
Senior Scribe
Greece
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Posted - 15 May 2008 : 21:19:57
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Ok.. ok.. these are good news indeed...With such denial let's see to whom the Little Wizards of the coast will sell their pretty novels of Spellplague thing!!!
Wizards of the coast let the Forgotten realms to someone else more able and occupy yourselves with Eberron...
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BARDOBARBAROS DOES NOT KILL.
HE DECAPITATES!!!
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Hawkins
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 15 May 2008 : 23:30:36
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My plans are to buy Paul Kemp's latest novels (I am waiting for the 3rd before reading his latest Trilogy) and Blackstaff Tower by Steven, Pirate King and Ghost King by RAS, and then I am probably done. Since I have not had money to begin any of the new trilogies that "bridge the gap," I probably won't be buying them.
BTW, does anyone have a list of the upcoming/current trilogies that either cover the before/during/after of the Spellplague or just take place after the Spellplague (like Swordmage) that those of us attempting to avoid it can reference so we do not accidentally buy one we do not want to? |
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scererar
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 16 May 2008 : 02:13:46
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[quote]Originally posted by MerrikCale
Cosnidering that most of us here have no interest in 4e realms, I wonder if you will still read the novels set in that timeframe.[quote]
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I am not sure your " most of us" statement would be correct. Sure, there are folks who are for and against, and like RF indicated, "on the fence".
I would like to see stats on "for or against 4E" on these boards before we start stating things as facts.
I am actually enjoying the Swordmage, which is supposed to be the 1st 4E novel. It is not bad my friends. It actually feels like most other current realms novels.
So yes, I will read them
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DragonReader
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 16 May 2008 : 02:19:50
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| To me it does not make one bit of difference if it is post-spellplague or pre-, to me what is important is the story. If the book tells a good story that catches my interest I'll read it. It is that simpe (at least for me). |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 16 May 2008 : 04:54:25
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Originally posted by DragonReader
To me it does not make one bit of difference if it is post-spellplague or pre-, to me what is important is the story. If the book tells a good story that catches my interest I'll read it. It is that simpe (at least for me).
While that is a consideration, I'm still on the fence... I hate what's being done to the setting, and I don't want to support it. The flip side is that I hate the idea of no longer buying Realms stuff...
I may decide not to buy anything else Realms, though. I did something similar with BattleTech: even though I've been told that some of the Dark Age stories are good, I find the entire Jihad concept so ridiculous* that I have no interest in reading the Dark Age stories, which are post-Jihad.
*At this time, I find the Jihad to be more ridiculous than the Sellplague. That may change, though, as we find out more about the Sellplague. |
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J D Dunsany
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 16 May 2008 : 13:12:18
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I'm not sure to what extent the spellplague will overshadow and affect the Realms. I guess what I'm asking is: it possible that the post-Spellplague Realms will be so radically different from the pre-Spellplague Realms that they will become, to all extents and purposes, two functionally different settings? If so, I'm not sure I'd be all that interested.
Having invested rather heavily in 3rd Edition gaming stuff over the last few years, I'm not at all sure about taking the plunge into 4th Ed. (It is, in any case, financially impossible for me to justify the move at the moment.) I've not had the time or much of an inclination to read the info on the forthcoming new version of the Realms, but my gut reaction to the idea of 4th Ed novels is cool, to say the least.
There is also an element of self-preservation involved here. It was the novels that got me into the 3rd edition of the game. If I start buying 4th edition novels, the likelihood is that they'll tempt me to spend money I don't really have on supplements and materials I wouldn't otherwise want. Something of a quandary, there... |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 16 May 2008 : 15:19:50
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Originally posted by J D Dunsany
I'm not sure to what extent the spellplague will overshadow and affect the Realms. I guess what I'm asking is: it possible that the post-Spellplague Realms will be so radically different from the pre-Spellplague Realms that they will become, to all extents and purposes, two functionally different settings? If so, I'm not sure I'd be all that interested.
With them blowing up lands I like, removing nations from the map to add wildly different ones, adding in goofy things like aerial islands, removing or retconning my favorite deities, lifting ideas from Eber-whatsit, and moving the timeline forward far enough to be able to ignore all current lore, for me, the Realms of 4E are an entirely separate setting. That's why I've been calling them the Shattered Realms. |
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Edited by - Wooly Rupert on 16 May 2008 15:22:04 |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 16 May 2008 : 16:24:40
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Ditto on Wooly's post. We aren't talking about small-scale adjustments, here. The 4E changes are removing much of what *I* loved about the setting in the first place. It'll be a good setting for some people, and I wouldn't want to take that away from them...but for me, it's a travesty.
And obviously, it is affecting my desire to read the newer novels, whether that's fair or not. |
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Hawkins
Great Reader
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Posted - 16 May 2008 : 16:25:17
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Originally posted by scererar
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Originally posted by MerrikCale
Cosnidering that most of us here have no interest in 4e realms, I wonder if you will still read the novels set in that timeframe.
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I am not sure your " most of us" statement would be correct. Sure, there are folks who are for and against, and like RF indicated, "on the fence".
I would like to see stats on "for or against 4E" on these boards before we start stating things as facts.
I am actually enjoying the Swordmage, which is supposed to be the 1st 4E novel. It is not bad my friends. It actually feels like most other current realms novels.
So yes, I will read them
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Fillow
Master of Realmslore
France
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Posted - 17 May 2008 : 17:37:12
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Originally posted by scererar
I am actually enjoying the Swordmage, which is supposed to be the 1st 4E novel. It is not bad my friends. It actually feels like most other current realms novels.
So yes, I will read them
As I wrote in another thread, I will read them too. I'm too found of Realms to let them in order to discover another universe !
Fantasy is sometimes as Real Life, everything is not leadable by ourselves. I think we have to do with that.
If you want that your fantasy universe goes as you want... Create it by yourself !
But I'm out of topic.
I only wanted to ask if swordmage was the only one 4E novel which is buyable up to now.
Does one know which one will be the next one ? and when please ?
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Caolin
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 18 May 2008 : 04:57:37
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Originally posted by MerrikCale
Cosnidering that most of us here have no interest in 4e realms, I wonder if you will still read the novels set in that timeframe.
Well I take exception to the "most of us" comment. As much as I might not like where 4E Realms might be going I still have plenty of interest in the Realms as an avid novel reader.....as do most of my friends btw. I would advise against thinking that the opinions on the forums are the opinions of the majority of readers out there.
But to answer your question, yes I am looking forward...as I always will....to reading any Realms novels.
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Kairin
Acolyte
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Posted - 19 May 2008 : 18:22:15
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Lameth
Learned Scribe
Germany
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Posted - 19 May 2008 : 19:43:25
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
That's why I've been calling them the Shattered Realms.
Shattered Realms 
Not a bad name |
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Pasta Fzoul
Seeker
USA
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Posted - 20 May 2008 : 04:34:04
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| My position on the new novels, as well as the setting overall, is this: If the authors manage to maintain the "feel" of the Realms, despite the dramatic changes, that would be ideal; if they don't, but still tell a good story, then I will continue to enjoy the setting for what it has become (though I certainly won't pass up a game that ignores those changes, either!). |
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Quale
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 20 May 2008 : 10:50:20
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| I'll probably read the Blackstaff tower, The Empyrean Odyssey (cause I like planar stuff, FR is underdeveloped in that area), and Shadowrealm, and that's it |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 20 May 2008 : 22:35:23
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I'm trying to finish books I already have, and to cap off 3.5, as well as finishing those trilogy that seem, now, to have been designed to "transition" us to 4th edition, but while I was a bit more open minded a few months ago, my desire to even follow writers that I like into 4th edition, regardless of where I game, has waned greatly.
Blackstaff Tower might still hook me in though. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 21 May 2008 : 01:23:02
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| I'm not entirely sure what I'll be doing with 4e FR novels at this point in time. While there are some elements of the 4e Realms that I'm not particularly keen on, there are some authors who I do love to read. And if they're writing novels for 4e FR, then it's likely I'll be picking them up and reading them, like Ed Greenwood or Steven Schend for example. Also, I don't like to leave trilogies or novel series unfinished. So I'll probably read "The Haunted Lands" once Unholy is released. |
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Steven Schend
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author
USA
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Posted - 21 May 2008 : 03:16:38
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| I'm hoping to have a trailer put together for Blackstaff Tower soon. Once it's ready, I'll drop a note somewheres around here. Hopefully, that'll give more people a better idea of what to expect about BT. Still can't say too much, but hopefully it'll keep the Realms fans happy. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 21 May 2008 : 14:39:22
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I'm hoping to have a trailer put together for Blackstaff Tower soon.
You mean like a movie trailer? That'd be cool. |
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MerrikCale
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 22 May 2008 : 21:33:01
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Originally posted by Steven Schend
I'm hoping to have a trailer put together for Blackstaff Tower soon.
You mean like a movie trailer? That'd be cool.
yeah. what rhee said |
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Aaron Highcolor
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 25 May 2008 : 17:17:19
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I will continuing to read the Forgotten Realms novels that begin/bridge 4th Edition material. For that matter, I have already purchased and am almost done with Swordmage, and I have enjoyed it. Other than a few mentions of what happened after the Spell Plague and some spell plague sigils (sorry, forgot the term that was used), it's another FR novel.
And I don't think magical sigils on people is anything new in the Realms, is it? |
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Fillow
Master of Realmslore
France
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 25 May 2008 : 21:22:26
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Originally posted by Fillow
I ordered Swordmage last week. I should get it in the early June
I'm coming back with an older question of mine : is Swordmage the only one 4E novel which is buyable up to now ?
At this time, yes.
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I believe I read higher that Undead partially took place in the post-spellplague era. Is it right ?
Yes, it took place in 1385 and involved the death of Mystra. |
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Aaron Highcolor
Acolyte
USA
45 Posts |
Posted - 25 May 2008 : 21:35:17
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| I believe that Obsidian Ridge takes place post-Spellplague as well. |
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