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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
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 Posted - 25 May 2008 : 21:42:35
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Originally posted by Aaron Highcolor
I believe that Obsidian Ridge takes place post-Spellplague as well.
Nope, pre-Spellplague, and in fact earlier than the "current year" (I think 1367 DR). |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Fillow
Master of Realmslore
France
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Aaron Highcolor
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 26 May 2008 : 05:44:37
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Originally posted by Aaron Highcolor
I believe that Obsidian Ridge takes place post-Spellplague as well.
Nope, pre-Spellplague, and in fact earlier than the "current year" (I think 1367 DR).
Ah, I guess I misunderstood the "hasn't been seen for 2000(?) years...duh, 2000, 100, whatever!  |
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Theophilus
Learned Scribe
Australia
143 Posts |
Posted - 10 Jul 2008 : 06:23:41
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Talking of 4th ed novels the cover for Unholy is available for viewing (not sure if it's meant to be Szass?)
here
(Someone please fix up the link if its broken!)
Mod Edit: Shortened URL. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 10 Jul 2008 : 18:23:45
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| It looks like Szass, and he looks a bit drunk. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Richard Lee Byers
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
1814 Posts |
Posted - 10 Jul 2008 : 18:30:22
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| Don''t you guys recognize Larry King when you see him? And after all the work I did figuring out a way to fit him i to the plot, too. |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
USA
3567 Posts |
Posted - 10 Jul 2008 : 18:42:41
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Originally posted by Richard Lee Byers
Don''t you guys recognize Larry King when you see him? And after all the work I did figuring out a way to fit him i to the plot, too.
Oh I have never doubted that the old windbag was a lich for a moment!! |
A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka
"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -
John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 10 Jul 2008 : 19:30:16
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Originally posted by Richard Lee Byers
Don''t you guys recognize Larry King when you see him? And after all the work I did figuring out a way to fit him i to the plot, too.
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Hawkins
Great Reader
USA
2131 Posts |
Posted - 10 Jul 2008 : 20:24:53
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| After reading Stardeep, I think I shall have to read the Abolethic Ascendancy as well as Blackstaff Tower. I see myself being pulled into the 4e Realms novels only because I am sure that much of the writing will still be excellent. And while I may be able to break my addiction to the 4e Realms rulebooks, it is very unlikely (especially because I have no desire to) that I will be able to break my addiction to excellent fantasy writing. |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 10 Jul 2008 : 20:36:49
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Originally posted by HawkinstheDM
After reading Stardeep, I think I shall have to read the Abolethic Ascendancy as well as Blackstaff Tower. I see myself being pulled into the 4e Realms novels only because I am sure that much of the writing will still be excellent. And while I may be able to break my addiction to the 4e Realms rulebooks, it is very unlikely (especially because I have no desire to) that I will be able to break my addiction to excellent fantasy writing.
Yep, Good writing is good writing no matter where it is set! |
A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka
"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -
John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963
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Theophilus
Learned Scribe
Australia
143 Posts |
Posted - 11 Jul 2008 : 01:34:17
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Originally posted by Richard Lee Byers
Don''t you guys recognize Larry King when you see him? And after all the work I did figuring out a way to fit him i to the plot, too.
I thought it might be McCain!
*Sorry in advance. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Fillow
Master of Realmslore
France
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
5056 Posts |
Posted - 21 Aug 2008 : 23:58:20
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The "Ed Greenwood Presents Waterdeep" series of standalone mass market paperback novels are all set in the post-Spellplague (Year of the Ageless One and later) Realms.
Thus far, they are:
1. Blackstaff Tower by Steven Schend
2. Mistshore by Jaleigh Johnson
. . . and two more finished novels, one of which is Downshadow by Erik Scott de Bie. (I know a LITTLE more than what I'm saying here, but shouldn't yet reveal it publicly.)
It should come as no surprise to learn that Rich Baker's trilogy, which began with SWORDMAGE, is entirely set in the "new" Realms, too; I believe the next book will be released in hardcover in the late spring of 2009. I'm not yet sure if Thomas Reid's series spans the "time jump" or not.
More when I can say or find out more. 
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 22 Aug 2008 : 00:51:47
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Based on what was said at Gencon, I'd assume it would since its written to help explain the cosmology changes, which was what was said at Gencon.
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Originally posted by The Hooded One
I'm not yet sure if Thomas Reid's series spans the "time jump" or not.
More when I can say or find out more.
love,
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
4598 Posts |
Posted - 22 Aug 2008 : 04:52:36
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I'm not sure if the fourth Ed Greenwood Presents novel has been unveiled in the public realm.
Though I wonder if some enterprising scribe might have a hint from a copy of Blackstaff Tower or Mistshore . . .
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Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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Skeptic
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1273 Posts |
Posted - 22 Aug 2008 : 05:11:44
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I do understand why the replaced Skullport with Mistshore/Downshadow, that the same reasoning that having Underdark more easily accessible, but those two novels will have to be damn good to make me forget my favorite location of the Realms |
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Kairin
Acolyte
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Posted - 22 Aug 2008 : 21:03:56
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| I have been hopelessly after on my Forgotten Realms reading... What books "define" 4e? I'm not going to play it, but I do want to read how it all plays out. |
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Skeptic
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1273 Posts |
Posted - 22 Aug 2008 : 21:10:28
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Originally posted by Kairin
What books "define" 4e? I'm not going to play it, but I do want to read how it all plays out.
The player's handbook. |
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Kairin
Acolyte
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Posted - 22 Aug 2008 : 21:13:31
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| I'm not touching that one with a ten foot pole ;) No 4e rules for me. But I got through a lot of the 3e huge changes book this summer, like the Avatar trilogy. Now I feel like moving on |
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Skeptic
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1273 Posts |
Posted - 22 Aug 2008 : 21:17:35
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Originally posted by Kairin
But I got through a lot of the 3e huge changes book this summer, like the Avatar trilogy.
Avatar trilogy narrates the 2E changes.
The biggest 3E changes are described in the Return of the Archwizards trilogy (which I don't recommend to any FR fan). |
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Kairin
Acolyte
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Posted - 22 Aug 2008 : 21:29:32
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| Ah, I see. I'm not very familiar with 2e, thanks for correcting me. |
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Hawkins
Great Reader
USA
2131 Posts |
Posted - 22 Aug 2008 : 21:42:50
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| I personally thought the the RotAW trilogy was much better than the Avatar trilogy. Both suffered from problems with characters acting out of character, but I found Shadowdale/Tantras by far to be the worst at it (IMHO). |
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He went galumphing back. --Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass
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* Compendium Arcanum Volume 2: 1st-Level Spells (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Martial Arts Guidebook (forthcoming) (PFRPG, designer; Rite Publishing)
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Kairin
Acolyte
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Posted - 22 Aug 2008 : 22:03:17
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| I agree.. I thought the Avatar series were pretty awful. But Prince of Lies and Crucible were entertaining. |
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scererar
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 23 Aug 2008 : 03:32:24
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RotAW trilogy was indeed better than the Avatar trilogy. I do however find it funny that folks feel that the earlier books portrayed characters out of character from the newer books. I just look at it as evolution of the setting as well as writing (styles) if that is the right word. Maybe it is just me though, due to that fact that I was reading the series since the beginning, as they were published.
of course this is just one opinion of many 
On track with the thread. I am excited about the 4E realms novels and I like the current path the realms has taken. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36963 Posts |
Posted - 23 Aug 2008 : 04:46:21
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Originally posted by Skeptic
The biggest 3E changes are described in the Return of the Archwizards trilogy (which I don't recommend to any FR fan).
Actually, one of my biggest complaints about that series (other than the fact that all the established good guys were idiots) was that it didn't explain any of the 3E changes. All it did was introduce the Shades and their city, and make the Shadow Weave more noticable.
When I first read about the Return of the Archwizards trilogy coming out, I was excited, because I thought it was going to be 3E's version of the Avatar trilogy. I thought that having part of Netheril pop back up would be an excellent mechanism for explaining just how different 3E was from 2E... And then they didn't really do it. They had a perfect opportunity to change things with an in-game explanation, and they didn't bother. That really irked me.
I will agree with you, though, on not recommending the trilogy to anyone. The flipside is, I don't recommend that anyone not read it, either -- I stay neutral on that one. The trilogy does have many fans, and I've found that Denning's stuff is very much hit-or-miss. I've thoroughly enjoyed some of his books, and thoroughly despised others. And many of those I've despised have a lot of fans. *shrugs* |
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Edited by - Wooly Rupert on 23 Aug 2008 04:48:50 |
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Skeptic
Master of Realmslore
Canada
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Posted - 23 Aug 2008 : 05:21:56
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I will agree with you, though, on not recommending the trilogy to anyone. The flipside is, I don't recommend that anyone not read it, either -- I stay neutral on that one. The trilogy does have many fans, and I've found that Denning's stuff is very much hit-or-miss. I've thoroughly enjoyed some of his books, and thoroughly despised others. And many of those I've despised have a lot of fans. *shrugs*
I agree that Avatar trilogy (not the two following books) would probably appear at lot worst for new FR fans at this point than this one.
But I really try to forget those damn swords, the number of powerful creatures killed like kobolds and the most important one, the way the Chosens entered the Enclave . IIRC, my real problem reading the book was that I didn't feel a thing for the main character...
I'm curious, which Denning's book you liked ?
I have The Parched Sea, but I didn't reat id yet. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36963 Posts |
Posted - 23 Aug 2008 : 05:47:36
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Originally posted by Skeptic
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I will agree with you, though, on not recommending the trilogy to anyone. The flipside is, I don't recommend that anyone not read it, either -- I stay neutral on that one. The trilogy does have many fans, and I've found that Denning's stuff is very much hit-or-miss. I've thoroughly enjoyed some of his books, and thoroughly despised others. And many of those I've despised have a lot of fans. *shrugs*
I agree that Avatar trilogy (not the two following books) would probably appear at lot worst for new FR fans at this point than this one.
But I really try to forget those damn swords, the number of powerful creatures killed like kobolds and the most important one, the way the Chosens entered the Enclave . IIRC, my real problem reading the book was that I didn't feel a thing for the main character...
I'm curious, which Denning's book you liked ?
I have The Parched Sea, but I didn't reat id yet.
I've not read either in years, but I did like The Parched Sea and The Veiled Dragon. I also liked Crucible. And it's not FR, but I recently read and enjoyed the Prism Pentad.
On the flipside, I thought Faces of Deception (another that is popular with a number of scribes) was absolutely pointless, and I hated how, in the RotA trilogy, the only good guys that could do something right were the ones intro'ed in that trilogy. |
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RodOdom
Senior Scribe
USA
509 Posts |
Posted - 23 Aug 2008 : 08:43:09
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| Re: original question, I have no interest in anything other than Ed's future books for WotC. |
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Fillow
Master of Realmslore
France
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4E Novels?
