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Christopher_Rowe
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Posted - 19 Sep 2008 :  21:12:12  Show Profile  Visit Christopher_Rowe's Homepage Send Christopher_Rowe a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Aha! That's more than enough of a hint.

From the Grand History of the Realms:

1293 Year of the Talking Skull
the sixth Emperor of Shoul Lung dies of old age and is given the deific name ch'uan (dog) for his faithful service to the memories of his forebears. His son becomes the seventh Emperor Chin.

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Fillow
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Posted - 19 Sep 2008 :  21:13:36  Show Profile  Visit Fillow's Homepage Send Fillow a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Right Red one !
He's the one I was waiting for.

the floor is yours ! (is that the right way you say that ?)

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The Red Walker
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Posted - 19 Sep 2008 :  21:14:03  Show Profile Send The Red Walker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Oh that was close! But I think I got it??

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Posted - 19 Sep 2008 :  21:15:12  Show Profile  Visit Christopher_Rowe's Homepage Send Christopher_Rowe a Private Message  Reply with Quote
And hey, Fillow! Do you think "Ch'uan" is pronounced the same as "chien?"

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The Red Walker
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Posted - 19 Sep 2008 :  21:18:36  Show Profile Send The Red Walker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ok here we go:

During the TOT, we know Bane absorbed the essence of all the Bhaal worshipping Assassins in Faerun. But it turns out there was one who was too strong willed to be absorbed.

What was his name? What ultimately was his fate? And for a bonus: What "title" did he have?



P.S. Come on ole Sage, I know you know this

Edit: Fixed Bold Type

A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka

"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -

John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963

Edited by - The Red Walker on 19 Sep 2008 21:23:34
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Fillow
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Posted - 19 Sep 2008 :  21:18:50  Show Profile  Visit Fillow's Homepage Send Fillow a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I agree Christopher.
Not exactly the same but indeed it sounds like the French word for "dog"
I thought about it when I read it for the first time.
Maybe an allusion from the authors. I should ask them... if they could remember what they thought about so many years ago when they wrote this area history...

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The Red Walker
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Posted - 19 Sep 2008 :  21:19:44  Show Profile Send The Red Walker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Christopher_Rowe

And hey, Fillow! Do you think "Ch'uan" is pronounced the same as "chien?"

My thoughts exactly Christopher, thinking Chien for dog is what put me on the "scent" of the answer!

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The Sage
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Posted - 20 Sep 2008 :  01:49:47  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker

P.S. Come on ole Sage, I know you know this
I do. But since I've recently answered another question, the rules prohibit me from answering again so soon.

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The Red Walker
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Posted - 20 Sep 2008 :  03:32:12  Show Profile Send The Red Walker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker

P.S. Come on ole Sage, I know you know this
I do. But since I've recently answered another question, the rules prohibit me from answering again so soon.

Glad you know it, I may need help devising a hint that won't give to much!

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The Sage
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Posted - 20 Sep 2008 :  04:14:02  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sure thing. Just let me know when...

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The Red Walker
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Posted - 20 Sep 2008 :  21:39:08  Show Profile Send The Red Walker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Here is the question again :
During the TOT, we know Bane absorbed the essence of all the Bhaal worshipping Assassins in Faerun. But it turns out there was one who was too strong willed to be absorbed.

What was his name? What ultimately was his fate? And for a bonus: What "title" did he have?


Hint : He earned his title for a particular type of people he preferred to kill.

If you feel the hint needs a bit more, feel free to embelish it Sage.

A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka

"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -

John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963

Edited by - The Red Walker on 20 Sep 2008 21:40:09
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The Red Walker
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Posted - 22 Sep 2008 :  14:40:42  Show Profile Send The Red Walker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Second Hint: He preffered to kill, thieves, thugs and Murderers earning the title King of Killers

A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka

"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -

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Edited by - The Red Walker on 22 Sep 2008 14:41:13
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The Sage
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Posted - 22 Sep 2008 :  14:49:44  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I was going to provide a hint of my own. But the only one I can think of at the moment will likely reveal too much information.

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The Red Walker
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Posted - 22 Sep 2008 :  14:51:36  Show Profile Send The Red Walker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

I was going to provide a hint of my own. But the only one I can think of at the moment will likely reveal too much information.

That is giving me trouble as well. I will Pm you a possibility, as I fear this last hint may not help much.

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Christopher_Rowe
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Posted - 22 Sep 2008 :  14:59:41  Show Profile  Visit Christopher_Rowe's Homepage Send Christopher_Rowe a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Eytan Bernstein's article expanding on the Binders from the Tome of Magic says this:

"During the Time of Troubles, Bane absorbed the essence of all of the Bhaal-worshipping assassins in the world during his fight with Torm, greatly weakening Bhaal. The most despicable of the assassins, a strong-willed murderer by the name of Marchosias, would not be so easily subsumed."

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Christopher_Rowe
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Posted - 22 Sep 2008 :  15:00:32  Show Profile  Visit Christopher_Rowe's Homepage Send Christopher_Rowe a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Oh, so I guess my answer is Marchosias, King of Killers.

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The Red Walker
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Posted - 22 Sep 2008 :  15:34:20  Show Profile Send The Red Walker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
T
quote:
Originally posted by Christopher_Rowe

Oh, so I guess my answer is Marchosias, King of Killers.

That is him. I gave his title in my hint. So what was his ultimate fate?

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Christopher_Rowe
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Posted - 22 Sep 2008 :  15:48:27  Show Profile  Visit Christopher_Rowe's Homepage Send Christopher_Rowe a Private Message  Reply with Quote
"Marchosias managed to break free of Bane's control, and his soul slipped down into hell, where it rightfully belonged. While in hell, Marchosias was attacked by a throng of assassins and thugs he had murdered. In life, the assassin's favorite targets had been thieves, thugs, and murderers. In death, they were his undoing. His soul was torn to pieces by the legions of his victims, and he became a vestige in the void between space and time."


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The Red Walker
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Posted - 22 Sep 2008 :  16:53:01  Show Profile Send The Red Walker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Christopher_Rowe

"Marchosias managed to break free of Bane's control, and his soul slipped down into hell, where it rightfully belonged. While in hell, Marchosias was attacked by a throng of assassins and thugs he had murdered. In life, the assassin's favorite targets had been thieves, thugs, and murderers. In death, they were his undoing. His soul was torn to pieces by the legions of his victims, and he became a vestige in the void between space and time."



Excellent! The floor is yours.

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Christopher_Rowe
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Posted - 22 Sep 2008 :  17:04:58  Show Profile  Visit Christopher_Rowe's Homepage Send Christopher_Rowe a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker


Excellent! The floor is yours.



All right! And I've just gone on a Realms purchasing spree so I got lots to choose from.

Since I've been playing, I've asked questions from 4E, 3E, and 2E. Hmmm.

Say, are novels game?

I'll be back with a question in a bit.

Cheers,

Christopher

Edit to add: Never mind about the novel question, I went back to the first post and read this from Wooly:

1. All questions must come from a novel, sourcebook, official TSR/WotC web release, or Dragon magazine. Lore originating solely from computer games (including their manuals), comic books, mailing lists (like Realms-L), forums (including this one), apocryphal sources such as the Double Diamond Triangle Saga, or any other unofficial TSR/WotC source are disallowed. Polyhedron and Dungeon magazines are similarly off-limits; while they did contain official Realms material, Dragon had a lot more such material and a wider reader base. Dragon was also where the Realms first saw print, so it's only fitting to include it.
It's only fair if we use non-obscure material that everyone has a reasonable chance of easily obtaining.

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The Red Walker
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quote:
Originally posted by capnvan

Quick question (and not concerning the validity of the question or answer): Is that considered canon? That kind of article, where designers try to suggest various ways of bringing a core product more directly into the Realms, has always struck me as suggestive, rather than definitive. As in, "you could do this, if you want to," as opposed to, "this is the way it is." The Marchosias story strikes me as, for lack of a better word, kind of lame. And the idea that Bane didn't actually subsume the life force of all assassins, because it helps fit Tome of Magic into the Realms, is even lamer. So, what's the story there?

I think they are canon, since they are official web-releases from wotc.

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The Red Walker
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Posted - 22 Sep 2008 :  17:32:53  Show Profile Send The Red Walker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker

[quote]Originally posted by capnvan

Quick question (and not concerning the validity of the question or answer): Is that considered canon? That kind of article, where designers try to suggest various ways of bringing a core product more directly into the Realms, has always struck me as suggestive, rather than definitive. As in, "you could do this, if you want to," as opposed to, "this is the way it is." The Marchosias story strikes me as, for lack of a better word, kind of lame. And the idea that Bane didn't actually subsume the life force of all assassins, because it helps fit Tome of Magic into the Realms, is even lamer. So, what's the story there?


I think they are canon, since they are official web-releases from wotc.

But, if you have a question or issue with Marchosias's story it would be an excellent question for Eytan in his scroll in the Chamber of Sages!

A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka

"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -

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Edited by - The Red Walker on 22 Sep 2008 17:34:15
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Christopher_Rowe
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Posted - 22 Sep 2008 :  18:11:38  Show Profile  Visit Christopher_Rowe's Homepage Send Christopher_Rowe a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This person may be said to have been the boldest chef in history of the Realms. An itinerant adventurer and cook-for-hire (but only for a tenday or so), this character sought a rather unusual ingredient, one needed for the recipes in a rather unusual--and unusually ancient--cookbook.

Of whom do I speak, and what do they seek?

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Christopher_Rowe
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Posted - 23 Sep 2008 :  23:00:19  Show Profile  Visit Christopher_Rowe's Homepage Send Christopher_Rowe a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hint time!

I wonder if he hauls around a box to stand on when he cooks in human kitchens. Doesn't have that problem in his homeland, of course.


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Christopher_Rowe
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Posted - 25 Sep 2008 :  01:02:47  Show Profile  Visit Christopher_Rowe's Homepage Send Christopher_Rowe a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hint the second.

The land he hailed from was the only one that might properly be called a nation that was held by his folk.

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Christopher_Rowe
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Posted - 26 Sep 2008 :  00:39:31  Show Profile  Visit Christopher_Rowe's Homepage Send Christopher_Rowe a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hint the third.

If this guy somehow managed to survive into current continuity, then he'd probably be specializing in seafood now.


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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 26 Sep 2008 :  01:23:45  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Perhaps a hint as to what source he's in? I've got the race and the homeland, but I still don't know where to look for his identity.

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The Sage
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Posted - 26 Sep 2008 :  01:35:51  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Wow! A third hint. That's got to be a record for this Challenge.

Anyways, I'll give it another day or so, then I'll answer it myself.

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Christopher_Rowe
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Posted - 26 Sep 2008 :  01:42:34  Show Profile  Visit Christopher_Rowe's Homepage Send Christopher_Rowe a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It's usually a hint a day, right? Should I give another one right away?

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The Sage
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Maybe just a hint about the source... as Wooly suggested earlier.

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