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Markustay
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Posted - 03 Jan 2017 :  01:13:29  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Tried to find another thread about this, but there was only one, and it quickly turned into something else entirely (not even FR related).

So, here's my question: Is this site still occupied?

Also, why 'holme'? Isn't that suffix usually used by dwarves? (and the fact that there is an enormous cave-complex underneath the entire wood gives me all sorts of nifty ideas where that's concerned).

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BenN
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Posted - 03 Jan 2017 :  04:01:55  Show Profile Send BenN a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay
So, here's my question: Is this site still occupied?

It is occupied by survivors from the second fall of Myth Drannor.
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TBeholder
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Posted - 03 Jan 2017 :  05:27:34  Show Profile Send TBeholder a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay


Also, why 'holme'? Isn't that suffix usually used by dwarves? (and the fact that there is an enormous cave-complex underneath the entire wood gives me all sorts of nifty ideas where that's concerned).

"That's not the same as how the Dwarves say '-holme' at all. That's just how N'Tel'Quessir record it. Because their crude ears cannot tell the difference."

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Markustay
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Posted - 03 Jan 2017 :  05:51:16  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Actually, I was thinking of providing a 'fix' with a little homebrew/fanlore. I was going to tie it to some other 'dwarfy stuff' I have mentally going on around (and under) Cormyr.


IIRC, there is even a fallen dwarf kingdom right there, in the Thunder Peaks.

quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Markustay
So, here's my question: Is this site still occupied?

It is occupied by survivors from the second fall of Myth Drannor.

Now I'm even more confused... Myth Drannor re-fell?

Next you're going to tell me the Netherese and Imaskari re-fell... oh... wait...


What about 1e/2e/ early 3e era? Was it completely abandoned? Was it a ruin, or just 'empty'? I seem to recall something about it from somewhere - maybe the Spellfree novel? I thought there were folks that still guarded it.

So it was completely 'emptied' as part of the Retreat? Or was something else involved? I never read any of the elf novels from late 3e - Myth Drannor was retaken, at least in-part, right? They lost that again? That seems rather pointless.

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Edited by - Markustay on 03 Jan 2017 05:57:27
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Brimstone
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Posted - 03 Jan 2017 :  15:04:56  Show Profile Send Brimstone a Private Message  Reply with Quote
IIRC it was lightly inhabited by Elves before The Elven Crusade to retake Myth Drannor. It was the staging area. I guess after Shade Enclave dropping on Myth Drannor the Elves withdrew to a known secure location in the area.

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Wrigley
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Posted - 03 Jan 2017 :  20:48:45  Show Profile  Visit Wrigley's Homepage Send Wrigley a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Before Spellplague it was protected by Deeping Dale's inhabitants who count many half-elves to their numbers and some elven protectors who stayed here by choice.
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The Masked Mage
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Posted - 03 Jan 2017 :  21:35:46  Show Profile Send The Masked Mage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
According to pretty much every source I know of, Semberholme was never entirely abandoned during the Retreat... the reason for this can be traced back to the legends about its significance to Corellon.

I have Semberholme as kind of a more secretive Evereska... the elves are there, but their magic has successfully obscured their presence completely for centuries.

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cpthero2
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Posted - 20 Sep 2020 :  22:04:08  Show Profile  Visit cpthero2's Homepage Send cpthero2 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Explorer Markustay,

I was just looking into some Semberholme material and ran across a canon note that there are agents of the Eldreth Veluuthra that are there as of 1374 DR. Obviously not a "lived" in space as most would think of it, but nonetheless interesting. That was in Champions of Ruin, p. 79.

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