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Nicolai Withander
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Posted - 29 Apr 2010 :  20:30:26  Show Profile Send Nicolai Withander a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I would find a way. Hence the spell Melcar's Weave Sphere, which acts a a cunductor/component for the weave itself making it possible to cast any level of spell, if you just use enough Weave spheres In theory that is.!!!

By the way... Where could this spell be found ingame? Where would my mage go to pick up information about sayd spell?

Edited by - Nicolai Withander on 29 Apr 2010 20:42:43
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Menelvagor
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Posted - 30 Apr 2010 :  06:55:28  Show Profile  Visit Menelvagor's Homepage Send Menelvagor a Private Message  Reply with Quote
As I said, this spell was created by Symrustar Auglamyr, and can only be learned and cast if you're wearign her Choker, which acts as spellbook. Symrustar disappeared during the Fall of Myth Drannor, in the explosion during the Battle of Shadusk Glade which killed Malimshaer. Her Choker was found on the ground after the battle. It was left as an adventure hook - elves could have taken it, it could still be in the ruins of Myth Drannor, etc.

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Nicolai Withander
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Posted - 30 Apr 2010 :  13:12:50  Show Profile Send Nicolai Withander a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ahh... Yes you did, didn't you! Kind of misses something about that spell.

I'll bow my head in stupid shame!
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Dennis
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Posted - 03 May 2010 :  04:46:54  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I chose they mythallar....as always, partial to things Netherese

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The Sage
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Posted - 11 May 2010 :  05:03:37  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yes, we know dennis. There's no need to repeat your earlier post.

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Dennis
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Posted - 11 May 2010 :  05:21:32  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sage,

Oops, my mistake. I clicked the wrong icon. Should have been the garbage can, not the arrow. I deleted it already, though.

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The Sage
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Posted - 11 May 2010 :  07:06:24  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ah, I've done that myself a few times as well.

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Sill Alias
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Posted - 12 May 2010 :  05:25:16  Show Profile  Visit Sill Alias's Homepage Send Sill Alias a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The greatest spell ever to defeat Ao's "Create crystal sphere."!































Ed's "Create Forgotten Realms."!

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Nicolai Withander
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Posted - 13 May 2010 :  01:17:21  Show Profile Send Nicolai Withander a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So true my friend. I have tried something like that myself, but i blew op in my face. Ed must be lvl 100 to cast a lvl 20 spell like that!

My spell was called Nicolai's Create Puny home setting, and it was as I said, an epic fail!
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Alisttair
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Posted - 13 May 2010 :  12:52:45  Show Profile  Visit Alisttair's Homepage Send Alisttair a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sill Alias
Ed's "Create Forgotten Realms."!



Ok I have to agree here. Nothing beats that one

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Dennis
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I think "The Shadowstorm" should be included in the options. True, it was stopped while barely at its peak. But had Rivalen been late in stopping it, it could have turned a considerable part of Faerun to dust.


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Ayrik
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Posted - 02 Dec 2010 :  17:13:46  Show Profile Send Ayrik a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Shadowstorm is kid stuff.

Szass's dread ring ritual. Had it actually been properly cast then all of Thay, probably all of Faerūn, perhaps all of Toril (or even the entire cosmos) would've been completely erased from existence.

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Acolyte Thirteen
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Posted - 02 Dec 2010 :  18:19:04  Show Profile  Visit Acolyte Thirteen's Homepage Send Acolyte Thirteen a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I like Galanthar's Gnostic Chains, from "Secrets of the Magister".
GGCs would put the Kai-Bosh-ken on many of the Spellcasters mentioned above.
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Dennis
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Posted - 03 Dec 2010 :  01:21:52  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Arik

Shadowstorm is kid stuff.




I don't think so. Look at what happened to Ephyras. Toril would have suffered the same had the Shadowstorm not been stopped.


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Ayrik
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Ah, yes, you're right dennis, that place was a write-off. I sort of thought of it being the consequence of (Shar's) divine manifestation more than being caused by some clumsy mortal's spell/ritual. I suppose the definition blurs when you consider Szass was planning on expending (some of Bane's) divine power to work his own magic.

I found a little bit of intelligent chatter here about Shadowstorm stuff.

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Alystra Illianniis
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Posted - 03 Dec 2010 :  02:42:52  Show Profile Send Alystra Illianniis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm on the fence between the Sundering and the Draco-Rage spells. Love High Magic, although it does tend to get a wee bit destructive. I noticed, however, that no one mentioned the Descent. I'd actually say that one tops the list. Create an ENTIRE new region of lands UNDER Faerun, AND drew an entire race to it?! (AND altered their form and abilities, to boot.) That takes some definite power. Also, since it was cast by pretty much EVERY elven priest AT THE SAME TIME, I'd say the logistics alone should put it at the top of the list. My only real beef is that it was reversed (well, partially) by only SEVEN mages (and not even High Mages) using a Kirra.....

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Dennis
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Posted - 03 Dec 2010 :  02:57:28  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Arik

Ah, yes, you're right dennis, that place was a write-off. I sort of thought of it being the consequence of (Shar's) divine manifestation more than being caused by some clumsy mortal's spell/ritual. I suppose the definition blurs when you consider Szass was planning on expending (some of Bane's) divine power to work his own magic.

I found a little bit of intelligent chatter here about Shadowstorm stuff.



I think they're equally great. They're cast by mortals but needed (or appeared to have needed) some divine power to come to fruition, and they're both for the same first purpose: annihilate the world. Though they very much vary in the second one: Shar wanted to drown everything to oblivion, while Tam wanted to create a new, 'better' world.

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Ayrik
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Posted - 03 Dec 2010 :  03:00:40  Show Profile Send Ayrik a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sorry ... I'm not sure I know what the "Descent" was. It involves Lolth? Which books, Alystra?

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Alystra Illianniis
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Posted - 03 Dec 2010 :  03:16:08  Show Profile Send Alystra Illianniis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The Descent is the (Divine/High Magic) ritual that was used to change and banish the drow at the end of the Crown Wars. Was mentioned in Evermeet and the reverse was performed in the last book of the Lady Penitant trilogy. Supposedly, it created the fearz'ress effects that opened up the Underdark and "drew" the newly changed drow into it.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 03 Dec 2010 :  03:28:20  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The Descent did not create the Underdark. Some of the Underdark caverns and tunnels were naturally occuring, and many were created as yet another inadvertent side effect of the Sundering.

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Alystra Illianniis
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Ah. thank you for clearing that up, Wooly. I knew that parts of it already existed, but I've never been totally clear on how the rest came about- too many conflicting vies on that. Decent, or Sundering? Meh, six of one, half-dozen of the other. But The faerz'ress effect was part of it, I know.

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Dennis
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Posted - 03 Dec 2010 :  04:26:37  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
For a spell, "The Descent" sounds intriguing. Huge and ominous...

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Ayrik
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The Descent does sound rather exciting. It applies only to Drow on Toril or also on Abier and other worlds?

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Alystra Illianniis
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It seems to have been a pan-world effect, meaning that it affected the "dark elves" of ALL worlds- at least according to the lore from my brands-spanking-new, right out of the package copy of Complete Book of Elves (2nd ed book). Well, not "new", but it's in almost new condition, and So, Correllon and company seem to have just done an across the board ban on all dark elves from the surface of all worlds where elves live.

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Razz
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Posted - 06 Dec 2010 :  00:17:23  Show Profile Send Razz a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Hmmm. Well said, Erik!
Eol, you missed all the really big spells (the terraforming and "racial creation from scratch" ones). Not to mention the planetary steering spell.
love,
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Woah, when did that last one happen?
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Ayrik
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Posted - 06 Dec 2010 :  00:32:57  Show Profile Send Ayrik a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Back in the old days. Creator races, Nether Scrolls, that sorta stuff. I'm not sure if creation myth genesis should properly be called a "spell".

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Dennis
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Posted - 07 Dec 2010 :  01:19:43  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm kinda torn between Imaskar Wards and Netheril's Mythallars. Both are the first and only in history. While I am always partial to everything Netherese, I must admit the godswall is really incredible. I think the Netherese archwizards could have raised the same had they had the need for it. However, the fact that they didn't (which maybe means they couldn't) and that the Imaskari did, says a lot.

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Markustay
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Posted - 07 Dec 2010 :  03:28:53  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This thread makes me now re-think Karsus' spell - it was actually very much like what Doctor Doom did when he stole Galactus' power in Secret Wars (basically, he diverted the energy Galactus receives from his ship into himself).

Ergo, Karsus did not kill Mystryl (it even says she sacrificed herself) - what he did was turn her into a power-terminal. Like plugging an extension cord into another extension cord (and by sacrificing herself, she severed the connection she had to the True source, rendering Karsus' patch-job inert.)

Its like what happens when you plug a string of Christmas lights into another string of Christmas lights - if the fuse in the first set goes, everything past that in the circuit also stops receiving power.

All he really did was divert the power flowing into her into himself. That was like plugging a cellphone into a 440 power outlet (and yes, they have those - they are used in commercial applications). No wonder he 'fried'.

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Edited by - Markustay on 07 Dec 2010 03:30:35
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Dennis
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That's an interesting theory, MT. Though, I'd like to think he did succeed in absorbing her divinity. After all, he deserved at least that.

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Ayrik
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If Karsus zorched out like a blown fuse then why did Mystryl stagger, the Weave fail, and all of Netheril fall down?

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