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lowtech
Learned Scribe
USA
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 Posted - 24 Apr 2008 : 04:22:28
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Originally posted by Brian R. James
Don't fight it. Ed will make you fall in love with the Realms all over again. Really.
Unless WOTC/Hasbro reimburses me for the $1500 worth of fluff material that is now USELESS when I had the legitimate expectation based on twenty-five years of precedent that such material would still be relevant regardless of which edition I'm playing in, they will never get any more of my money. Really.
A question for Skeptic: the whole appeal of Planescape consisted of playing with philosophical/spiritual concepts within the (admittedly artificial) bounds of an alignment-based outer-planes system. For instance, on lawful-nuetral (good) Arcadia you could explore or satirize socialist and objectivist utopias that could never work in real life, yet functioned in Planescape because "belief is power." How on earth can that co-exist with a fundamental dislike of the alignment system? Its virtually impossible to play without it! |
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Jorkens
Great Reader
Norway
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Posted - 24 Apr 2008 : 08:32:32
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Originally posted by lowtech
A question for Skeptic: the whole appeal of Planescape consisted of playing with philosophical/spiritual concepts within the (admittedly artificial) bounds of an alignment-based outer-planes system. For instance, on lawful-nuetral (good) Arcadia you could explore or satirize socialist and objectivist utopias that could never work in real life, yet functioned in Planescape because "belief is power." How on earth can that co-exist with a fundamental dislike of the alignment system? Its virtually impossible to play without it!
It worked for me, I just ignored those parts you mention, that left 90% of the material. Then again, I did not care much for Planescape in the long run. I prefer the old Manual of the Planes. |
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MerrikCale
Senior Scribe
USA
947 Posts |
Posted - 27 Apr 2008 : 04:47:56
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Originally posted by Brian R. James
Don't fight it. Ed will make you fall in love with the Realms all over again. Really.
I have every faith in Ed, its the rest of them thats the problem. I am quite confident in saying Ed would not have done this as I fairly sure he cares about the hard-core fan |
When hinges creak in doorless chambers and strange and frightening sounds echo through the halls, whenever candlelights flicker where the air is deathly still, that is the time when ghosts are present, practicing their terror with ghoulish delight. |
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MerrikCale
Senior Scribe
USA
947 Posts |
Posted - 27 Apr 2008 : 04:49:16
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Originally posted by lowtech
Unless WOTC/Hasbro reimburses me for the $1500 worth of fluff material that is now USELESS when I had the legitimate expectation based on twenty-five years of precedent that such material would still be relevant regardless of which edition I'm playing in, they will never get any more of my money. Really.
Sell it all on ebay |
When hinges creak in doorless chambers and strange and frightening sounds echo through the halls, whenever candlelights flicker where the air is deathly still, that is the time when ghosts are present, practicing their terror with ghoulish delight. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 28 Apr 2008 : 00:06:37
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| Many of us already loved the Realms, and didn't need to "fall in love all over again." |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 28 Apr 2008 : 00:08:31
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Originally posted by MerrikCale
I have every faith in Ed, its the rest of them thats the problem. I am quite confident in saying Ed would not have done this as I fairly sure he cares about the hard-core fan
I don't think Ed would have introduced such changes, either, as he has indeed stated in plain English that the Spellplague (et al) was not his idea. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time) |
Edited by - Rinonalyrna Fathomlin on 28 Apr 2008 00:09:21 |
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ShepherdGunn
Seeker
USA
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Posted - 28 Apr 2008 : 14:12:52
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Here here, Rinona!
Personally, and I may be wrong on this, I've been thinking that the fans have been the only reason that Ed is on board with any of this. I kind of picture Ed tugging on his beard, furiously attempting to salvage what he can to preserve what he can of his vision.
I love what Brian James "the Chronologists" has done so far for the Realms, but as I've said before, every time Chris or Rich open their mouths, it's like some thousand mouth beast from the deepest depths crawling forth and singing the song that will end the world. |
"Man does not live by bread alone, likewise, blades and arrows aren't the only things that can kill him." |
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MerrikCale
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 30 Apr 2008 : 03:30:56
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Originally posted by ShepherdGunn
Here here, Rinona!
"here here Rinona"? I said it first. Is it because she's a girl |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 30 Apr 2008 : 15:02:57
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Heh. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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