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Snotlord
Senior Scribe
Norway
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 Posted - 18 May 2005 : 15:24:09
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A tale about the dwarves in Amn would be really cool, and probably easier to use for lots of people 
I have some map-making (1st edition style dungeon maps) and statblock-writing (experience with the software out there) skills I can bring to the group, if you need any.
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Asgetrion
Master of Realmslore
Finland
1564 Posts |
Posted - 21 May 2005 : 12:00:29
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Then there are the Scepters of Shanatar and the Wyrmskull Throne... Pcs going on a quest to retrieve all the scepters for Clan Ghalmrin, and thus helping with the rise of Shanatar could always present epic opportunities.
I recall that all the scepters (and their present locations) were detailed in the "Wyrmskull Throne"-adventure? Think about the possibilities  |
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Fletcher
Learned Scribe
USA
299 Posts |
Posted - 23 May 2005 : 17:18:30
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you want a great place that is a challenge even to epic level players...how about under water. there are lots and lots of seas in the realms. And very little is detailed about what is under them. Feel free to make up one heck of a scary story line that requires epic level people to put a stop to it, and then make them do it all under water.
The location will put them totally out of their comfortable surface world environment, disrupt vision, spells, fighting, moving. Think about those poor guys who forget about their spellbooks, scrolls, maps letters etc.
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Mystery_Man
Senior Scribe
USA
455 Posts |
Posted - 10 Feb 2006 : 15:29:31
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Asgetrion
Master of Realmslore
Finland
1564 Posts |
Posted - 13 Feb 2006 : 00:42:24
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Mystery Man, I think this idea was scrapped in the end. A pity. I still think that "The Mines of Tethyamar"-dungeon crawl or "Beneath The Wailing Dwarf" would have been my favorites for a "dwarven theme" epic adventure  |
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
2965 Posts |
Posted - 13 Feb 2006 : 00:52:57
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I do believe this project is finished, but perhaps we should think of a second one and keep it solely here?
(Sage, you are a wonderful person, but you do have a habit of taking things and wandering off with them somewhere else.) |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
5402 Posts |
Posted - 13 Feb 2006 : 01:03:17
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There is a group on the DragonLance boards at Paizo that has started a project to try and make definitive "DragonLance" feel adventures for various levels and regions and times in the setting. They are trying to focus on single shots and arcs, though they have yet to come out with an adventure.
Maybe we could do something like that here . . . start out with a good opening adventure in a good opening level area, and provide lots of FR tie ins to make it feel like a FR adventure, then perhaps make a good mid level adventure, then a high level one, like Paizo does in Dungeon now.
Or perhaps come up with a FR specific Adventure Path . . . 12 adventures that take a group from 1st to 20th level (though I have a tendancy to want to make sure such an AP gives LOTS of time between installments, since I don't like the idea of characters going from 1st-20th level in a years time).
Of course the first suggestion would be more of an ongoing project than an epic adventure. And I'm sure many of us will likely blow a gasket if we take on another project . . . wait . . . that would be our esteemed Alaundo that would blow a gasket if we start another project . . . perhaps we need to visit Manshoon and discuss cloning spells. |
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
2965 Posts |
Posted - 13 Feb 2006 : 01:07:44
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
There is a group on the DragonLance boards at Paizo that has started a project to try and make definitive "DragonLance" feel adventures for various levels and regions and times in the setting. They are trying to focus on single shots and arcs, though they have yet to come out with an adventure.
Maybe we could do something like that here . . . start out with a good opening adventure in a good opening level area, and provide lots of FR tie ins to make it feel like a FR adventure, then perhaps make a good mid level adventure, then a high level one, like Paizo does in Dungeon now.
This sounds like a very good idea to me; we're really missing a definitive early adventure for Realms DMs to cut their teeth on, so to speak. Something like the Randal Morn adventures, filled with Realmslore and designed almost to be a beginning to the Realms would be a great tool. |
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Mystery_Man
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 13 Feb 2006 : 13:05:51
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Oh heh..I didn't read the entire thread.
Well anyway, if you's want to start something let me know. There are days at work where I'm bored out of my skull. |
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Asgetrion
Master of Realmslore
Finland
1564 Posts |
Posted - 13 Feb 2006 : 22:59:52
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
Or perhaps come up with a FR specific Adventure Path . . . 12 adventures that take a group from 1st to 20th level (though I have a tendancy to want to make sure such an AP gives LOTS of time between installments, since I don't like the idea of characters going from 1st-20th level in a years time).
Hmmm, I am a bit skeptical about brainstorming a whole series of modules - that might be a bit too ambitious, at least for now. A decent module or two, filled with Realms-related fluff, would be a good start, at least in my humble opinion...
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
2965 Posts |
Posted - 13 Feb 2006 : 23:15:02
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Originally posted by Asgetrion
Hmmm, I am a bit skeptical about brainstorming a whole series of modules - that might be a bit too ambitious, at least for now. A decent module or two, filled with Realms-related fluff, would be a good start, at least in my humble opinion...
I say we go for one fluff-filled low-level Realms adventure. |
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Asgetrion
Master of Realmslore
Finland
1564 Posts |
Posted - 13 Feb 2006 : 23:15:58
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My gaming group includes a DM, who mainly runs campaigns in the Savage Frontier/Waterdeep area. I may sound a bit biased here, but I swear that he has designed the best maps I have seen anywhere. Usually I am our group's cartographer just for the sake of taking those wonderful maps to home, and adapting them into my own campaigns (those that none of the other "Northern" players are involved with, of course ;) 
He has actually drawn maps for over 200 buildings in Waterdeep (almost all that were listed in the AD&D-books/boxed sets). His own opinion on this is that "Most of my maps have too much open space, and too few supporting walls or pillars. Any real-world architect would point out that they could not be built, or that they would collapse within months if they were actually built."
But hey, each and every one of them looks great!
If I had the power to decide over this, I would ask him to draw all the maps for any project that we would decide to participate in here at Candlekeep. Assuming, of course, that he had the time to do that.
If I had the power to appoint other duties, I would like Arivia to handle all the "rules-related" stuff, and function as the High Resident Rules Lawyer for such a project.
Hey, I am just speculating here...  |
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
2965 Posts |
Posted - 13 Feb 2006 : 23:19:58
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Originally posted by Asgetrion
If I had the power to appoint other duties, I would like Arivia to handle all the "rules-related" stuff, and function as the High Resident Rules Lawyer for such a project.
Gee, couldn't see that role coming ...I accept.
Regarding cartography: That would be great. One of the things we do have a dearth of around Candlekeep is good cartographers. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 14 Feb 2006 : 00:20:51
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Originally posted by Asgetrion
Mystery Man, I think this idea was scrapped in the end. A pity. I still think that "The Mines of Tethyamar"-dungeon crawl or "Beneath The Wailing Dwarf" would have been my favorites for a "dwarven theme" epic adventure
It hasn't been scrapped. As Arivia said above... most of the work was taken elsewhere mainly because I was curious to develop this adventure as part of another setting. However, that doesn't have to mean that the work stops here. Interest waned... and so I felt that keeping the adventure's development on another site was more appropriate.
I'm more than willing to re-start this project for the FR though... since we again seem to have some considerable interest.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 14 Feb 2006 : 00:26:23
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Originally posted by Arivia
I do believe this project is finished, but perhaps we should think of a second one and keep it solely here?
If you folks want to start up a whole new project... that's fine as well. If you still want to play around in this sandbox though, I'm willing to chime in.
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(Sage, you are a wonderful person, but you do have a habit of taking things and wandering off with them somewhere else.)
I know, I know... But consider it as something this mod is known for... like Wooly's mischieviousness .
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
2965 Posts |
Posted - 14 Feb 2006 : 00:37:39
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Originally posted by The Sage
If you folks want to start up a whole new project... that's fine as well. If you still want to play around in this sandbox though, I'm willing to chime in.
Either one's fine with me, honestly. However, with all due respect, Sage...
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I know, I know... But consider it as something this mod is known for... like Wooly's mischieviousness .
I suggest that you not lead this project--- no slight intended, but I'd really like to see this adventure stay here, just as a project for the scribes of Candlekeep. |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 14 Feb 2006 : 00:48:58
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Beirnadri Magranth
Senior Scribe
USA
720 Posts |
Posted - 14 Feb 2006 : 01:12:24
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maybe we could do it by having 1 person work on stats for 1 organization
Example:
we all brainstorma dn decide we are going to do a dwarves of ammarindar campaign (something Id like to see if we are using dwarves... also i do loooove water magic)
so if the plot focuses the kingdom, then arivia would work on one city
Knighterrantjr would work on another and so on
or if we did a lowlevel campaign using lots of realms lore like harpers and zhents etc.
then we could focus on a city like Iriaebor or something and I'd do the amge guild, and arivia would do the harper compound or wahtever and so on...
I think this would go smoothly if we come up witha general sense of teh plot and have all the sages who work on it contribute snippets. Each sage would be told her or his organization that he or she is in charge of and then the highest level npc in that group etc. and they woudl flesh it out.
later say in a month or so wed post our stat blocks and info etc. and then see where plot hooks could come in....
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 14 Feb 2006 : 01:17:08
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Originally posted by Arivia
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Originally posted by The Sage
If you folks want to start up a whole new project... that's fine as well. If you still want to play around in this sandbox though, I'm willing to chime in.
Either one's fine with me, honestly. However, with all due respect, Sage...
::snicker:: That's why I said "chime in" .
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I know, I know... But consider it as something this mod is known for... like Wooly's mischieviousness .
I suggest that you not lead this project--- no slight intended, but I'd really like to see this adventure stay here, just as a project for the scribes of Candlekeep.
That's fair enough. And to be honest... given my completion of the adventure for another setting... it's probably a good idea anyway since it'll provide a fresh perspective on this with regard to its relationship to the Realms.
Any takers for the new lead?
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
5402 Posts |
Posted - 14 Feb 2006 : 01:25:01
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Actually, I think we may need to sort out what everyone is interested in doing . . . who wants to be in on the epic adventure, and who might want to be in on the ground floor introductory Realms adventures.
I'd be interested in working on the introductory one, at least brainstorming it, though as I pointed out above, I'll have some time I'll be gone. |
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
2965 Posts |
Posted - 14 Feb 2006 : 01:25:09
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Originally posted by The Sage
Any takers for the new lead?
If no one objects, I'd like it--- I feel I'm ready to try and oversee a large project like this. |
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Beirnadri Magranth
Senior Scribe
USA
720 Posts |
Posted - 14 Feb 2006 : 01:37:29
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Great!
well, I at least want to start out with making a Faerun Flavored (very spicy) Introductory campaign.
Maybe after a couple people voice what kind of campaign thing they want to work on we can start a new thread for it?
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 14 Feb 2006 : 01:51:04
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Originally posted by Beirnadri Magranth
Great!
well, I at least want to start out with making a Faerun Flavored (very spicy) Introductory campaign.
I agree; the dwarf idea was mainly conceived as a sort of reaction to CoSQ. As recent supplements have been more balanced in focus, and there is large confusion amongst new players about the focus and themes of the Realms, and how the Realms interacts with the core rules of the game, I think an introductory adventure to get folk off on the right foot with the setting is quite needed. |
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Beirnadri Magranth
Senior Scribe
USA
720 Posts |
Posted - 14 Feb 2006 : 01:58:09
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Originally posted by Arivia
...there is large confusion amongst new players about the focus and themes of the Realms, and how the Realms interacts with the core rules of the game...
yeah I've noticed players dont understand how like epic magic and mythals and gem magic and shadow weave etc. all intereact together. And I think alot of people don't understand what gods are alive still, since so many of them have died adn come back to life etc.
I think we should focus on mundane aspects of FR. More in the way of human to human interaction and political organizations not magical organizations. Since so much emphasis has been on drow and elves etc. I think there might be over stimulation of the fantastic elements of FR.
I'd really like to see:
Harpers,
Farmlands,
Maybe ships...
hmm and clerics of lathander and other commoner gods.
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
2965 Posts |
Posted - 14 Feb 2006 : 02:06:53
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Originally posted by Beirnadri Magranth
yeah I've noticed players dont understand how like epic magic and mythals and gem magic and shadow weave etc. all intereact together. And I think alot of people don't understand what gods are alive still, since so many of them have died adn come back to life etc.
I don't think we need to turn this into a FAQ on the Realms--- another Great Reader is covering that more than adequately. 
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I'd really like to see:
Harpers,
Farmlands,
Maybe ships...
hmm and clerics of lathander and other commoner gods.
Possibly. As this is looking to be an introductory adventure, I think we should actually start by examining the elements in the FRCS that are designed for newcomers to the Realms and working within those. However, I don't want to proceed any farther before getting the opinion of some other scribes--- The Sage and KnightErrantJR have both been watching these latest developments closely, and I'd like to hear their opinions at least. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 14 Feb 2006 : 02:29:36
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Originally posted by Arivia
If no one objects, I'd like it--- I feel I'm ready to try and oversee a large project like this.
I second the motion .
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Originally posted by Arivia
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Originally posted by Beirnadri Magranth
yeah I've noticed players dont understand how like epic magic and mythals and gem magic and shadow weave etc. all intereact together. And I think alot of people don't understand what gods are alive still, since so many of them have died adn come back to life etc.
I don't think we need to turn this into a FAQ on the Realms--- another Great Reader is covering that more than adequately.
Aye. ::The Sage modestly draws the attentions of interested scribes to his sig:: 
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Possibly. As this is looking to be an introductory adventure, I think we should actually start by examining the elements in the FRCS that are designed for newcomers to the Realms and working within those. However, I don't want to proceed any farther before getting the opinion of some other scribes--- The Sage and KnightErrantJR have both been watching these latest developments closely, and I'd like to hear their opinions at least.
Definitely sounds like an idea for this -- though I'd say both the FRCS and PGtF.
It also might be wise to incorporate setting elements that are by and large already well established and familiar to almost everyone with a working knowledge of the Realms. Since you want to keep it as an introductory adventure... that's the best bet for this.
Thoughts?
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
5402 Posts |
Posted - 14 Feb 2006 : 02:31:09
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I would just say (still worn out from work, sorry about my lack of energy in posting), I would like to find a good solid region to set the adventure in that would make sense for anyone playing the "main" races of FR, i.e. somewhere that Moon Elves, Shield Dwarves, Lightfoot Halflings, Rock Gnomes, Humans, and Half-elves would all logically co-exist, someplace not to "specialized" i.e. places that, while interesting, are not representitive of the standard "Realmsian" feel, (so likely no Old Empires). Someplace near a wilderness but with a decent base of operations with a least a decent store, weapons and armor, and temples. Nothing too overwhealming for starting charcters or those new to FR, so likely Waterdeep or Silverymoon would be out.
The sad thing is, the more I talk about this the more it reminds me why my players ended up in Mistledale, but I would have to overly bias anything due to my campaign being set there for the last year or so. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
5402 Posts |
Posted - 14 Feb 2006 : 02:33:04
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A) I third Arivia as project leader.
B) I say we start a brand new thread for this one. |
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
2965 Posts |
Posted - 14 Feb 2006 : 02:34:40
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Originally posted by The Sage
Definitely sounds like an idea for this -- though I'd say both the FRCS and PGtF.
I agree. Although one thing I should do is a small rules cheat sheet on what in the FRCS exactly got updated in the 3.5 revision, even though I'm not sure whether that's more appropriate for your FAQ or this adventure.
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It also might be wise to incorporate setting elements that are by and large already well established and familiar to almost everyone with a working knowledge of the Realms. Since you want to keep it as an introductory adventure... that's the best bet for this.
Thoughts?
Okay, here's a really stupid question provoked by the fact that I'm in about three different headspaces due to multitasking right now: Can you provide examples of those elements?
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A) I third Arivia as project leader.
Yaaay! Thanks to you, too, Sage.
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B) I say we start a brand new thread for this one.
Agreed. This one has a lot of stuff on the beginning that will only confuse possible contributors. |
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