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Alaundo
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Posted - 02 Nov 2007 :  15:51:07  Show Profile  Visit Alaundo's Homepage Send Alaundo a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Well met

This is a Book Club thread for Crypt of the Moaning Diamond (Book 4 of the Dungeons series), by Rosemary Jones. Please discuss chapters 1 - 5 herein.

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Rosemary Jones
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Posted - 04 Dec 2007 :  03:33:36  Show Profile  Visit Rosemary Jones's Homepage Send Rosemary Jones a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Since Ed has been so brave as to jump in and answer questions about his book, NEVERSFALL, I'll follow his lead and offer the same for CRYPT. Just to let everyone know, I'm somewhat clueless about forums and if you need a speedy response, just e-mail me. I do check my e-mail every day.

And, as Alex Trebek might say, the answer is: 1276 DR.

Enjoy!



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The Red Walker
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quote:
Originally posted by Rosemary Jones

Since Ed has been so brave as to jump in and answer questions about his book, NEVERSFALL, I'll follow his lead and offer the same for CRYPT. Just to let everyone know, I'm somewhat clueless about forums and if you need a speedy response, just e-mail me. I do check my e-mail every day.

And, as Alex Trebek might say, the answer is: 1276 DR.

Enjoy!






Nice to have you with Us and I cannot wait to start your novel. I picked it up today and will start it as soon as I finish Neversfall.
The sneak peek in the back of Sands of the Soul piqued my interest!

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The Wanderer
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Posted - 14 Dec 2007 :  17:55:16  Show Profile  Visit The Wanderer's Homepage Send The Wanderer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hey, Rosemary. Glad to have you on the forums

I've only recently begun to read your novel (87 pages in), but I am happy to say that I am liking it very much. Your characters are intersting and well developed. I especially like the dwarf and his menagerie of dogs; being an avid dog lover myself, you practically had me right there (I also like dwarves ). I'm also curious as to the sisters; hoping to get some more tidbits about their history. And the Paladin(?)... Yeah, they are all interesting :-).

All in all, a great start.

The Wanderer

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The Red Walker
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I agree that the dogs are a nice addition. I was just thinking of the hundreds of characters in the Realms novels I have read, there are far too few with pets.
Ivy seems to be an interesting lady and I will enjoy finding out how she came to lead such a disparate group!

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Ozzalum
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Posted - 15 Dec 2007 :  13:59:54  Show Profile  Visit Ozzalum's Homepage Send Ozzalum a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I picked up the book last night and got through chapter 5. Overall, I will echo the others here by saying it is off to a good start. It has a lighter feel than I normally go for. I'd say the cover art and back cover blurb painted a slightly darker novel. Of course, it may yet be de Bied...

I like the characters, the sisters are amusing, and find myself hoping they don't meet a grisly doom.

Edited by - Ozzalum on 16 Dec 2007 22:17:11
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ShadowJack
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I just started the book and like it very much! I have many questions. What, exactly, is Kid? A satyr, a tiefling? I really like the idea of the story taking place during a siege; very intriguing. Maybe the novel tells us later, but where do the SiegeBreakers call home? Just curious...

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RodOdom
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I'm really enjoying the first chapters. The characters are colorful, interesting and likable. The storytelling is clear and vibrant. Also the story feels like a D&D adventure. Which ,to me, is the entire point of reading Realms and D&D novels.

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Rosemary Jones
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Posted - 21 Dec 2007 :  04:47:44  Show Profile  Visit Rosemary Jones's Homepage Send Rosemary Jones a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Lots of great comments and questions. I've been busy writing artist bios for an opera program (day job) but I'll try to tackle as many as I can.

quote:
Originally posted by ShadowJack

What, exactly, is Kid? A satyr, a tiefling? I really like the idea of the story taking place during a siege; very intriguing. Maybe the novel tells us later, but where do the SiegeBreakers call home? Just curious...



Good catch on Kid, you're right. He comes from The Races of Faerun. It's just my characters don't have that book and have never encountered his type before.

The Siegebreakers live at an isolated farm within easy marching distance of Procampur and Tsurlagol.

quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker
I agree that the dogs are a nice addition. I was just thinking of the hundreds of characters in the Realms novels I have read, there are far too few with pets.



Right before I sent the manuscript in, I had one of those late night author heart attacks: are there dogs in the Realms? And where do the camels come from? These are the worries that are very hard to explain to your family.

quote:
Originally posted by Ozzalum
I'd say the cover art and back cover blurb painted a slightly darker novel.




Well, yes, it does look very dark doesn't it? You may have been led astray. However I must say that I absolutely adore the cover art and what they describe happening in the book does happen.

Let me mention right now that I was one of those people who sent in a spec proposal for the Maiden of Pain open call. Mine was the funny Maiden of Pain book, the one loosely based on Pygmalion. Wisely, they picked Kameron's book.

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Edited by - Rosemary Jones on 21 Dec 2007 04:51:00
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Eremite
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Posted - 13 Jan 2008 :  08:08:52  Show Profile  Visit Eremite's Homepage Send Eremite a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Dear Rosemary,

I read your book last week in just two sittings. I really enjoyed it. Some very cool characters (including the bugbears) and all-in-all a nice change of pace. I hope you write more!

Best
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Rosemary Jones
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Posted - 23 Jan 2008 :  05:36:31  Show Profile  Visit Rosemary Jones's Homepage Send Rosemary Jones a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Eremite

Dear Rosemary,

I read your book last week in just two sittings. I really enjoyed it. Some very cool characters (including the bugbears) and all-in-all a nice change of pace. I hope you write more!



Thanks! The characters really grew on me too. Especially after living with them for a year. So it's nice to hear from people who liked Ivy, Mumchance, Sanval, and all the rest!

Rosemary


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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 08 Feb 2008 :  01:39:06  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm about 40 pages in this book and I love it so far! I agree with the others that it's definitely a change of pace, and for me that's a good thing, because I have to admit that I enjoy light-heartedness and likeable characters. The dialogue between the Siegebreakers is fun to read, and I find Sanval to be amusing with his stoic manner (he seems like Ivy's "straight man"), but rather loveable at the same time.

The book seems set up to be a fun read.

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Rosemary Jones
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Posted - 08 Feb 2008 :  04:24:18  Show Profile  Visit Rosemary Jones's Homepage Send Rosemary Jones a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, I have a soft spot for Sanval. And if he was telling the story, you might get a very different view of the Procampur camp and the mercenaries. And, as things progress, they are all going to have a no good, rotten, horrible day (to paraphrase one of my favorite picture books). That does tend to bring out the stoic in Sanval.

As for the "light-heartedness" -- guilty, guilty, guilty. I'm currently working on a deep space story about a man trapped in a rocket ship, watching his oxygen run out and writing an e-mail that can't be sent to complain to the rocket company's customer service. And one of the people in my writing group said "You know what you are. You are a HUMORIST. This is going to FUNNY." Dang, and I thought I could fool them for at least a page or two. After all, it was sort of inspired by my trials and tribulations with a big e-mail/Internet company who ate my web pages (site is back up now!).

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 10 Feb 2008 :  21:39:52  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rosemary Jones

Well, I have a soft spot for Sanval. And if he was telling the story, you might get a very different view of the Procampur camp and the mercenaries. And, as things progress, they are all going to have a no good, rotten, horrible day (to paraphrase one of my favorite picture books). That does tend to bring out the stoic in Sanval.

As for the "light-heartedness" -- guilty, guilty, guilty. I'm currently working on a deep space story about a man trapped in a rocket ship, watching his oxygen run out and writing an e-mail that can't be sent to complain to the rocket company's customer service. And one of the people in my writing group said "You know what you are. You are a HUMORIST. This is going to FUNNY." Dang, and I thought I could fool them for at least a page or two. After all, it was sort of inspired by my trials and tribulations with a big e-mail/Internet company who ate my web pages (site is back up now!).



I definitely appreciate the light-heartedness and humor. I've been sick for the past two days, and I've been reading a lot of your book (I'm 212 pages in at this point). It's helped me feel better. I'm also a sucker for light-heartedness in fantasy, as well as protagonists that I find likeable. At this point, I love ALL of the Siegebreakers, including Sanval (I have a soft-spot for stoic me in shining armor, myself...). Many of the characters are quite cute, too, in a good way (like Gunderal).

Bottom line is, I care about all the characters, and I'm hoping that they all come out safe and sound by the end of the book.

"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time)

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quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin


Bottom line is, I care about all the characters, and I'm hoping that they all come out safe and sound by the end of the book.



Agreed. These characters are fun to read, I really like each of them. I thought Ivy's explanation to Sanval of why they didn't have more magic items, and the fact that they don't have them, was quite refreshing.

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Rosemary Jones
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Posted - 25 Feb 2008 :  03:30:09  Show Profile  Visit Rosemary Jones's Homepage Send Rosemary Jones a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Xysma



Agreed. These characters are fun to read, I really like each of them. I thought Ivy's explanation to Sanval of why they didn't have more magic items, and the fact that they don't have them, was quite refreshing.



Thanks. I had so many worries about keeping track of Mumchance's sword and Zuzzara's shovel that I decided everyone's gear had to be limited, if only for the writer's sanity. Like Dorothy's shoes in the Wizard of Oz, I'm a big believer in magic items of limited use or duration, just because it makes the characters work all that much harder. My personal favorite at the beginning of the book is the "Dry Boots" ring. There will be an item or two that shows up later on (as you might guess from the title)

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 25 Feb 2008 :  16:53:18  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yes, I agree with Xysma, the realism regarding magic items was a nice change from the usual. It's not a subject books usually address.

"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Rosemary Jones
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Posted - 29 Feb 2008 :  05:09:14  Show Profile  Visit Rosemary Jones's Homepage Send Rosemary Jones a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

Yes, I agree with Xysma, the realism regarding magic items was a nice change from the usual. It's not a subject books usually address.



Well my rambling thoughts on realism in fantasy can be found in an interview at http://otter.covblogs.com/archives/026755.html.

Sorry to hear you've been sick, RF! Remember, lots of liquids and stay warm. One of my favorite parts of the Hobbit is when Bilbo bemoans the lack of a pocket handkerchief. Have been having the same problem myself this winter with the attacks of "a-choo, a-choo!"

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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quote:
Originally posted by Rosemary Jones

quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

Yes, I agree with Xysma, the realism regarding magic items was a nice change from the usual. It's not a subject books usually address.



Well my rambling thoughts on realism in fantasy can be found in an interview at http://otter.covblogs.com/archives/026755.html.

Sorry to hear you've been sick, RF! Remember, lots of liquids and stay warm. One of my favorite parts of the Hobbit is when Bilbo bemoans the lack of a pocket handkerchief. Have been having the same problem myself this winter with the attacks of "a-choo, a-choo!"



Heh, same here. I'm not sick anymore (and hopefully I'll stay healthy!), but thanks so much for the warm wishes and advice.

"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Rosemary Jones
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Posted - 14 Apr 2008 :  05:06:29  Show Profile  Visit Rosemary Jones's Homepage Send Rosemary Jones a Private Message  Reply with Quote
James P Davis, who has a new FR novel out in May, took some time from his busy schedule to create a book trailer for Crypt. You can see it at my MY SPACE blog -- and on You Tube.

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=220300970&blogID=378272191

If you like it, tell James! And don't forget to check out his Citadel novel in May -- I'm excited about this one!

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Kyrene
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Posted - 13 Jun 2008 :  07:29:53  Show Profile  Visit Kyrene's Homepage Send Kyrene a Private Message  Reply with Quote
"Ivy punched the camel."

That was a great opening line and it just got better after that. I must admit, despite that, it took me a week to reach page 50. Not that it was difficult to get into this gem, just that I actually savoured it, like the first glass of a good red wine. Then I got drunk on the rest of the bottle, meaning I read the other 260 pages in one day. Great first novel Rosemary.

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Tremaine
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after reading city of dead and realms of the dead short which I enjoyed alot i went out to buy this novel and really enjoying it so far

Sanval my favorite chacter at the minute loved how he didn't tell Ivy that she had camel dung on her footwear ;-)

does ivy get along with her parents? sounds like she had a problem with them be heroic did there die saving something and she had some issues with it?

how did kid join the group if someone had horns and hoofs i would run a mile

is the name kid a nickname because his so old or because he reminds people of a goat?

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