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Xysma
Master of Realmslore
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 Posted - 05 Oct 2007 : 20:42:57
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| Well, at least once the prelude is over the book jumps back to 1372 DR, that's kind of a relief. I will say that there is nothing at all about the prelude that was enjoyable or even interesting to me. The prelude is followed by Drizzt waxing philosophical, which I never really care for in any of the Drizzt books. Once that is over with and the meat of the story gets going, it's off to a good start. Cattie-Brie is trying to heal up so she can walk and accompany Wulfgar to retrieve Colson. Wulfgar realizes that he is still in love with Cattie-Brie although he can never be with her because of the relationship between her and Drizzt. So far it's a fairly typical Drizzt and Co. book. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 09 Oct 2007 : 02:30:37
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Originally posted by Xysma
Well, at least once the prelude is over the book jumps back to 1372 DR, that's kind of a relief. I will say that there is nothing at all about the prelude that was enjoyable or even interesting to me.
I have to agree. Of course, I've made my opinions about the prelude known elsewhere.
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The prelude is followed by Drizzt waxing philosophical, which I never really care for in any of the Drizzt books.
Nor do I, really, but this particular journal entry gave me pause. Are we entering the era of politically correct orcs? Or, for that matter, politically correct monsters in general? I know the term "politically correct" is a bit dubious, but I for one can't think of a better term to describe it! I only just started, but it looks like this book has the "monsters are people too" mantra written all over it. Drizzt speaks of "ending the cycle of violence and hatred" between orcs and pretty much everybody else. This all strikes me as odd for a Salvatore book, considering that orcs, goblins, and the like have never been much more than evil creatures for Drizzt to kill in the other RAS books. Granted, Drizzt is a drow, but it has always been made clear in the books that most drow are evil, and that Drizzt and other goodly drow like him are exceptions to the rule. When Drizzt wonders if Nojheim (that "good" or at least benign goblin he met years back) was simply an anomaly, my answer to that was "yes, most likely".
In short, I'm not sure if this new take on orcs is something I like. Orcs aren't misunderstood victims--they have been oppressors, marauders, killers, and looters. This isn't a false perception, it is based on established facts in the setting. I'm not saying all orcs are evil, or even that they shouldn't have a kingdom of their own. But this new idea of the orcs, as a race, taking a step towards living the way all the goodly races do, is a bit too much for me to take in this setting (trust me, I've seen settings where orcs ain't so bad, and I'm not just talking about Warcraft).
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Once that is over with and the meat of the story gets going, it's off to a good start. Cattie-Brie is trying to heal up so she can walk and accompany Wulfgar to retrieve Colson. Wulfgar realizes that he is still in love with Cattie-Brie although he can never be with her because of the relationship between her and Drizzt. So far it's a fairly typical Drizzt and Co. book.
I have to admit, I've finding the "Wulfgar still loves Cattie-brie" plot element to be tiresome. But then again, I've found that the RAS books in general tend to repeat themselves, although I do agree that this particular novel isn't off to that bad of a start. |
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Xysma
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Posted - 09 Oct 2007 : 05:15:52
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
But this new idea of the orcs, as a race, taking a step towards living the way all the goodly races do, is a bit too much for me to take in this setting (trust me, I've seen settings where orcs ain't so bad, and I'm not just talking about Warcraft).
Granted I am not far into the book, I had to read Curse of the Shadowmage after finishing Crypt of the Shadowking but... it seems to me that this isn't so much about the orcs "as a race" wanting to become civilized. Rather it is one exceptional orc (Obould) trying to lead his people into new territory as he sees it as the only way to hold what he has taken. Any thoughts? |
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Charles Phipps
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Posted - 09 Oct 2007 : 05:21:40
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Actually, I'm rather pleased with the way that R.A. Salvatore handled the issue in the story because it's deliberately meant to be uncomfortable. It's a surprisingly balanced take on what is normally a ridiciulously preachy worldview. Take Goblins the webcomic, for example, where the idea is handled with racism and genocide when it's a Fairy Tale for crying outloud.
R.A. Salvatore forces Drizzt into one of his few genuine moral dilemnas in the fact that he's forcing the Drow to deal with the fact that Obould Many Arrows gets to keep his vast swath of conquered territories on the oft chance that the Orcs will not want to slaughter and pillage as much if they actually have something to lose. It's a pretty risky philosophy and goes against the typical fantasy worldview of "Appeasement=Bad."
The Orcs of Obould's kingdom are also pretty much utterly evil bast***s. Obould murders his consort out of hand and batters around his next one. The orcs are also composed of a lot of people who just want to slaughter everything. It's only by a civil war are Obould's people able to take anything.
Clearly, it's not a hundred years of roses and flowers either since Drizzt honestly believes it was possibly a mistake letting Obould live. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 11 Oct 2007 : 01:43:55
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Originally posted by Xysma
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
But this new idea of the orcs, as a race, taking a step towards living the way all the goodly races do, is a bit too much for me to take in this setting (trust me, I've seen settings where orcs ain't so bad, and I'm not just talking about Warcraft).
Granted I am not far into the book, I had to read Curse of the Shadowmage after finishing Crypt of the Shadowking but... it seems to me that this isn't so much about the orcs "as a race" wanting to become civilized. Rather it is one exceptional orc (Obould) trying to lead his people into new territory as he sees it as the only way to hold what he has taken. Any thoughts?
That might be the case, Xysma.
But Drizzt--in his journal entry--asks the readers (paraphrased) "could it be possible that the orc race is taking the steps towards civilization?" He also speaks of ending the "cycle of violence", which would most likely mean that orcs and the "goodly" races everywhere should stop fighting each other.
The would be great, but usually orcs are the aggressors, so humans, elves, dwarves, and the like can't be blamed for being hostile towards them in return. Again, it all just seems a bit too touchy-feely for my tastes. |
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Charles Phipps
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Posted - 11 Oct 2007 : 01:49:07
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I'd consider it more touchy feely were it not for the fact that the book includes a bunch of Orcs needing to be slaughtered.
I think the message that "We need to give peace a chance" is always going to leave something of a sour taste in people's minds.
Though I don't see how it could have been done better.
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 11 Oct 2007 : 02:18:07
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Originally posted by Charles Phipps
I'd consider it more touchy feely were it not for the fact that the book includes a bunch of Orcs needing to be slaughtered.
I think the message that "We need to give peace a chance" is always going to leave something of a sour taste in people's minds.
Though I don't see how it could have been done better.
Well, I'll decide on that when I've finished the book. |
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SirUrza
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Posted - 13 Oct 2007 : 23:57:57
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I suppose I'm the only one that notices that the Orcs are basically the victims of Hate crimes 100 years into the future.. because that's where the book starts off, not in the current timline, not in the 4th edition timeline, but 100 years into the future.
Orcs WERE the aggressors, now they're trying to be tame. Orcs are dumbly naive in the way of being civilized. Orcs lack the manors, the concept of "human" decency.
But it's the "good" races that are being aggressive, are the ones committing the hate crimes against the struggling orcs.
Kind of reminds of American history, a few years after the civil war. *shrugs* |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 17 Oct 2007 : 20:24:58
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Originally posted by SirUrza
I suppose I'm the only one that notices that the Orcs are basically the victims of Hate crimes 100 years into the future.. because that's where the book starts off, not in the current timline, not in the 4th edition timeline, but 100 years into the future.
No, you aren't the only one to notice that.
And I think bringing real life examples of racism into this discussion is a bad idea, especially because orcs are NOT humans. Just like putting "the CCC" in the novel was a bad idea... |
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Hawkins
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Posted - 17 Oct 2007 : 20:46:45
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Originally posted by SirUrza
I suppose I'm the only one that notices that the Orcs are basically the victims of Hate crimes 100 years into the future.. because that's where the book starts off, not in the current timline, not in the 4th edition timeline, but 100 years into the future.
No, you aren't the only one to notice that.
And I think bringing real life examples of racism into this discussion is a bad idea, especially because orcs are NOT humans. Just like putting "the CCC" in the novel was a bad idea...
Though I did not mind Drizzt hunting down murders (whether their victims be orcs or whatevers), I found the whole CCC thing too cliché for my tastes. |
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TobyKikami
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Posted - 19 Oct 2007 : 17:32:25
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Mm. One thing that I noticed in retrospect is that while they're ready and willing to snuff orcs, the "CCC" bunch seems unusually, I don't know, tolerant of Drizzt. I would have expected at least one nasty comment along the lines of "Well, now the 'heroic' drow shows his true colors" or something like. Instead they seem to genuinely think of him as a "hero," one of their "kind," and are disbelieving that he's not on their side.
I suppose the Eilistraeens could have made considerable progress before the Mysterious Whatsit that befell them. Or maybe this lot is like that one gold elf in Evermeet who looked down on moon elves as a race but wouldn't hear a word against Amlaruil. And also, as Nojheim pointed out in that old short story, drow have the advantage of being pretty. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 21 Oct 2007 : 03:06:25
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As I read over a standard "Drizzt and Wulfgar vs. the Orcs" battle scene, I noticed that the orcs were still being referred to as "its" rather than "hes" or "shes" (ie. "it raised its sword to block", Wulfgar hit it before it could defend itself"). Why do that, if the point of the book is to show that orcs are people too?
I have to agree with Xysma that the book is a fairly standard Drizzt novel in pretty much every other respect. A pretty good read, but as usual I find the detailed descriptions of combat too tedious for my taste. |
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Edited by - Rinonalyrna Fathomlin on 21 Oct 2007 03:06:37 |
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TobyKikami
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 21 Oct 2007 : 04:10:30
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
As I read over a standard "Drizzt and Wulfgar vs. the Orcs" battle scene, I noticed that the orcs were still being referred to as "its" rather than "hes" or "shes" (ie. "it raised its sword to block", Wulfgar hit it before it could defend itself"). Why do that, if the point of the book is to show that orcs are people too?
I'd argue viewpoint for that, except Salvatore seems to take a rather more omniscient approach. Force of habit? |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 21 Oct 2007 : 04:55:32
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Originally posted by TobyKikami
I'd argue viewpoint for that, except Salvatore seems to take a rather more omniscient approach. Force of habit?
Probably. |
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Hawkins
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Posted - 21 Oct 2007 : 06:08:18
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
A pretty good read, but as usual I find the detailed descriptions of combat too tedious for my taste.
Lol. The detailed descriptions of combat are part of the reason I love his writing. That is why the novelization of SW: Ep II was so much better than the movie, because his choreography was so much better than what the actual actors pulled off. Except for Ewan McGregor, he obviously remembered what Ray Park taught him in SW: Ep I. Anyways, sorry for sidetracking the topic a bit. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 22 Oct 2007 : 00:45:19
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It's OK. I'm aware that some people LOVE RAS's fight scenes, it's just that I'm not one of them.
I do like it that the reader is explicitly shown how Delly's death has affected Wulfgar. One thing I disliked about The Two Swords was that Delly's death--as it affected the other characters--was barely touched on, even though these protagonists are supposedly sensitive and caring people. It had the effect of making Wulfgar seem like he didn't care what happened to his own wife!
Better late than never, I suppose. |
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Hawkins
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Posted - 22 Oct 2007 : 00:53:22
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| Well, and it is difficult to deal with grieving when you are fighting a war. I would think that you would need to bottle those emotions up until a time when it was feasible to deal with them. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 22 Oct 2007 : 00:56:52
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Well, and it is difficult to deal with grieving when you are fighting a war. I would think that you would need to bottle those emotions up until a time when it was feasible to deal with them.
But the great thing about novels is that the emotions characters feel can be conveyed to the reader without the character ever uttering one peep of dialogue. So, no excuses. RAS often does let me down when it comes to telling the reader what characters are truly feeling (or, making their emotions--or lack thereof--seem genuine)--the grievance with his writing I mentioned above was hardly an exception to that.
That's another problem I have with his combat scenes...it often feels like he spends more time on combat choreography than he does with character interaction. |
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Edited by - Rinonalyrna Fathomlin on 22 Oct 2007 01:00:54 |
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Hawkins
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Posted - 22 Oct 2007 : 05:31:25
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Originally posted by HawkinstheDM
Well, and it is difficult to deal with grieving when you are fighting a war. I would think that you would need to bottle those emotions up until a time when it was feasible to deal with them.
But the great thing about novels is that the emotions characters feel can be conveyed to the reader without the character ever uttering one peep of dialogue. So, no excuses. RAS often does let me down when it comes to telling the reader what characters are truly feeling (or, making their emotions--or lack thereof--seem genuine)--the grievance with his writing I mentioned above was hardly an exception to that.
That's another problem I have with his combat scenes...it often feels like he spends more time on combat choreography than he does with character interaction.
Lol. Well, every author really has their speciality. But I do see your point. |
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The Red Walker
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Posted - 24 Oct 2007 : 00:05:14
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I'd argue viewpoint for that, except Salvatore seems to take a rather more omniscient approach. Force of habit?
Once you think your a God, it's hard to go back eh??? Even for a good writer.
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The Red Walker
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Posted - 24 Oct 2007 : 00:16:05
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Finished chapter 3.
I think I just had an ephiphany. And I was not looking fo it to happen. I have loved ever Drizzt novel and short story so far. How is it possible that I am starting to immediately dislike him now after all these years???
I do not know, but his interaction with Catti-Brie upon returning to the hall made me realize that he acts like an angst ridden, 14 year old girl. All that he has been through in his life has not forged him into a stronger person, it has taken the temper from his soul. Left him to weak to love. To weak to act on his feelings.I am not sure if I feel sorry for him or feel contempt for him. He has been blessed with all the powerfull friends, weapons, and tools to be the best of his generation, but instead sobs in his journal when he should be loveing Cattie and his life! Living lie to the fullest instead of fighting others battles as a way to run from his fragile psyche.
Oh well...back to the book. Maybe with a break I will get back into the grove and enjoy...if not I have plenty of FR novels to enjoy for years to come! |
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The Red Walker
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Posted - 28 Oct 2007 : 17:25:33
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| Actually as of last post I had only read chapter 2. Reading Chapter 3 evened my temper a bit. I liked seeing Wulfgar allow himself to start living again. Even if it was foolhardy to take on an unknown number of orcs, just like Wulgar did...we all knew Drizzt would show up! |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 28 Oct 2007 : 23:05:43
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| I've been liking the way Wulfgar grows in this novel. |
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The Red Walker
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Posted - 30 Oct 2007 : 01:24:31
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I've been liking the way Wulfgar grows in this novel.
I am liking it very much and his part of this story is well written and a breath of fresh air. |
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Hawkins
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Posted - 30 Oct 2007 : 16:28:00
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Originally posted by The Red Walker
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
I've been liking the way Wulfgar grows in this novel.
I am liking it very much and his part of this story is well written and a breath of fresh air.
I agree as well. I also like that he returns to Icewind Dale. I would not mind spin-off books (sort of like the Sellswords) because he has finally become a character I like, but at the same time I do not feel that he belongs with the Companions of the Hall anymore (and felt like this before he rejoined them). |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 30 Oct 2007 : 17:59:51
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"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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The Orc King: Prelude & Chapters 1 - 6
