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Italian Archmage Karsus
Learned Scribe
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 Posted - 08 Oct 2022 : 22:18:01
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Hey, I've been sifting up and down and I can't seem to find the source for the "Younger" spell in Wizard's Spell Compendium Volume IV (1998, 2e).
I remain extremely curious as to where it first showed up, but I'm not sure how to find it. It's not Dragon, Dungeon, Polyhedron or Imagine (those are labeled), it's not marked as invoking any of the settings, and its name makes it nigh-impossible to google.
Any ideas of how to find its original source, before it was picked up for the Compendium?
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TomCosta
Forgotten Realms Designer
USA
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Posted - 09 Oct 2022 : 21:58:05
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| No idea, but it's possible (though I'm not saying it was) that it was a product that never saw print too. They included a number of spells and magic items in those compendiums and encyclopedia from products that got shelved. That said, it references witches (though I double checked and its not from either 1e/2E era witch npc in Dragon), so where else did the witch appear in 2E? |
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Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 09 Oct 2022 : 23:20:45
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| There is a witch kit in the 2E PHBR4: Complete Wizard's Handbook. It doesn't describe any custom witch spells, the focus is basically thematic fluff and special potion brewing rules. |
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Italian Archmage Karsus
Learned Scribe
126 Posts |
Posted - 10 Oct 2022 : 02:17:38
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I see. I hadn't thought the product may have been shelved; thanks for the datum.
I guess I better assume as much... it's been quite long and I've made no progress. |
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The Masked Mage
Great Reader
USA
2420 Posts |
Posted - 10 Oct 2022 : 11:18:02
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"Youth", from the next page comes from Dragon 114 - its the witch one. This is not the one... I will have to look to see if I can find it, but I'm guessing either 1st edition or regular D&D (non-advanced).
There are similar "youth" spells in several older dragon magazines as well. Its not those. |
Edited by - The Masked Mage on 10 Oct 2022 11:20:46 |
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Italian Archmage Karsus
Learned Scribe
126 Posts |
Posted - 10 Oct 2022 : 15:35:49
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Masked Mage, all spells from Dragon, Dungeon, Polyhedron and even Imagine are labeled as such in the compendium.
This likely isn't amongst them, or it would presumably have been labeled as such.
Some clues are generally left, too, but all it says is that it is a very rare spell. The only thing that seems to compare is Enhance Ability, which also showed no source, claiming only "very rare", but I found it in Legends and Lore (AD&D 2e version) as Enhance. |
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TBeholder
Great Reader
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Posted - 11 Oct 2022 : 03:30:21
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| It's from Wonders Of Lankhmar, of all places. As well as Diary, Hair, Magic Fist, Due North, Distant Diary, Photodraft, "Cook, the Spell", Detect Psionics, Find Person, Prismal's Handy Mirror, Insect Sight/tunnel vision, Motion, Shock Shield, Magical Susceptibility, Weapon Return, Bug, Prismal's Wormhole. |
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Edited by - TBeholder on 11 Oct 2022 04:14:03 |
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The Masked Mage
Great Reader
USA
2420 Posts |
Posted - 12 Oct 2022 : 08:00:39
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Originally posted by Italian Archmage Karsus
Masked Mage, all spells from Dragon, Dungeon, Polyhedron and even Imagine are labeled as such in the compendium.
This likely isn't amongst them, or it would presumably have been labeled as such.
Some clues are generally left, too, but all it says is that it is a very rare spell. The only thing that seems to compare is Enhance Ability, which also showed no source, claiming only "very rare", but I found it in Legends and Lore (AD&D 2e version) as Enhance.
Enhance does not seem to be close at all  |
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The Masked Mage
Great Reader
USA
2420 Posts |
Posted - 12 Oct 2022 : 08:03:42
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Originally posted by TBeholder
It's from Wonders Of Lankhmar, of all places. As well as Diary, Hair, Magic Fist, Due North, Distant Diary, Photodraft, "Cook, the Spell", Detect Psionics, Find Person, Prismal's Handy Mirror, Insect Sight/tunnel vision, Motion, Shock Shield, Magical Susceptibility, Weapon Return, Bug, Prismal's Wormhole.
Yep - there it is. Well done. Good find. |
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Italian Archmage Karsus
Learned Scribe
126 Posts |
Posted - 13 Oct 2022 : 02:20:09
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Originally posted by TBeholder
It's from Wonders Of Lankhmar, of all places. As well as Diary, Hair, Magic Fist, Due North, Distant Diary, Photodraft, "Cook, the Spell", Detect Psionics, Find Person, Prismal's Handy Mirror, Insect Sight/tunnel vision, Motion, Shock Shield, Magical Susceptibility, Weapon Return, Bug, Prismal's Wormhole.
Thank you kindly!
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Originally posted by The Masked Mage
Enhance does not seem to be close at all
Yeah. I must've had the mother of all brainfarts there, sorry. |
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An obscure spell
