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EliaMorgona Posted - 28 Jul 2006 : 01:42:36
After reading the lost empires of faerun book I stumbled acrossed the nether scrolls. This seemed like a cool but not well thought out item. Do you really gain 1 level each scroll you read? and do they stack a full set has 50 scrolls so does this mean someone could of read and gained 50 levels? Also I cant find much lore on where they are now.

Any help would be much apreciated
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Beirnadri Magranth Posted - 25 Aug 2006 : 16:47:16
The search feature sometimes doesn't work very well, I've found. I had in the past asked alot and read through several topics about the nether scrolls.

Here are some if you are having trouble finding them:

http://candlekeep.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3755

http://candlekeep.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5920

http://candlekeep.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5996

http://candlekeep.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4001

http://candlekeep.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6584

http://candlekeep.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6580
Alisttair Posted - 28 Jul 2006 : 16:40:46
This isn't cannon, but just thought it would be interesting to share. There is a fan created module for Neverwinter Nights CRPG which was made to bridge the gap between the Shadows of Undentride expansion and the Hordes of the Underdark Expansion, which has your character somehow going back in time through the Plane of Shadow and stealing the second set of Nether Scrolls. It can be found in the fan created modules section of nwn.bioware.com somewhere (too lazy to find the full link). I have played it personally and found it very good.
EliaMorgona Posted - 28 Jul 2006 : 03:09:23
After trying the search feature it wasn't that good most of the post are not at all what I needed but the great sage sent me on the path to what I need.
EliaMorgona Posted - 28 Jul 2006 : 02:26:54
Great info sage thanks!!!!

And I never seen the search tab till now im new here but that is a great tool to know about
The Sage Posted - 28 Jul 2006 : 02:12:13
And this from George -

"To clarify somewhat, there were two sets of the Nether Scrolls discovered by the humans of Netheril.

Serpent Kingdoms states that the magical organisation known as the Ba'etith created them (p.97) in c. -30000 DR: note that this is my dating based on the timeline given on p.186 and the contents of p.97. What is interesting about this is that the Ba'etith was originally a sarrukh organisation. However, with the fall of the sarrukh empire of Isstosseffifil, the Ba'etith was in turn controlled by the other "Creator Races" - the batrachi and aearee - over the next several millenia. Again, see Serpent Kingdoms, p.97 for this. This source states that the Nether Scrolls were created over millenia and that they looked at the primitive magic employed by all races of that time - this could mean that the Nether Scrolls were created not only by the sarrukh, but also by the batrachi and the aearee through the vehicle of the Ba'etith. So, to say that they were created by the sarrukh alone is probably not quite right.

Of the two known sets, one was stolen by the elves of Cormanthyr in -3095 DR and kept at Windsong Tower in what was to become Myth Drannor - see the Cormanthyr accessory. The second set was stolen whilst en-route to Karsus' enclave just before the fall of Netheril which occurred in -339 DR.

Other than the set in elven hands, we know nothing more about the other, stolen set. We do know however that various 'individual' Nether Scrolls are noted as being in existence in the North. One is in the hands of an illithilich in the ruins of Dekanter. Others are in the Hall of Mists below the Grandfather Tree in the High Forest. Another couple of scrolls are in the possession of the sarrukh mummy Hssathak (see Serpent Kingdoms, p.96) who was once of Isstosseffifil. These references create some interesting questions about the second set of Nether Scrolls, the one not stolen by the elves of Cormanthyr.

Was it broken up after its theft and the individual scrolls scattered to various places like the Hall of Mists and Dekanter? One would have to think that this is very likely and actually a good thing for FR writers and designers. It lets them put individual Nether Scrolls (not whole sets, gentlemen, if you are reading this! ) throughout the North, Sword Coast and Heartlands.

Was there a third set of Nether Scrolls? My guess is that there was indeed a third set, because Hssathak has some in his possession, and it is unlikely that he got them from whoever stole the second set. Mayhap the Ba'etith still have a presence on Faerun and they hold onto the third set of Nether Scrolls (but separated for safety) awaiting the time when the Creator Races will rise again ...

-- George Krashos"

and -

"That's correct - I wrote the above response before LEoF was officially out and before I knew how the Netheril chapter was going to turn out. One other thing is that the Netheril Boxed Set talks about what the thieves did to some of the Nether Scrolls (from the -1896 DR thefts IIRC): they broke them up (in other words 'destroyed' them and sold them as bits of gold). I'm not sure how that fits in terms of what we know of the Nether Scrolls now, but you might want to read N:EoM carefully to gel this reference in.

-- George Krashos"
The Sage Posted - 28 Jul 2006 : 02:10:53
For lore... Cormanthyr: Empire of Elves (available at WotC for free:- http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dnd/downloads). The North boxed set (also at the URL above). Netheril: Empire of Magic (again, at the URL above). The novel, Nether Scroll. Serpent Kingdoms.
Kentinal Posted - 28 Jul 2006 : 02:05:40
There has been discussion of these scrolls a few times already, using search feature you can find most if not all of them.

Short answer though appears one of the 50 appears to grant a spell casting level. That other scrolls might provide benefits yet unknown. In some ways it does not matter as a full set should never be available, then or now.

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