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Neriandal Freit
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Posted - 26 Apr 2008 :  02:48:11  Show Profile  Visit Neriandal Freit's Homepage Send Neriandal Freit a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Memory serves right, Kuje stayed there two years prior.

The Hyatt is a fantastic spot to meet up at due to the fact it's connected three different ways I believe, or rather has three different access points. Main Entrance, through Convention Center and another I can not remember.

I vote for White Shirts and Stickers :D

quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

I stayed at the Conrad Hilton last year. It was about two blocks away from the Con. Nice hotel.

-- George Krashos





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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 26 Apr 2008 :  02:49:37  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

That's a nice idea, could be useful and maybe our handles. :)



Glad to help--I figured stickers would be pretty foolproof.

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Kuje
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Posted - 26 Apr 2008 :  02:58:06  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Indeed I did, which is why I kept thinking Hilton instead of Hyatt for the meet up. :) And staying at the Hilton again this year cause I did like the rooms and the comp lab. Edit: Actually I stayed at the other Hilton that is about three blocks away, the Hilton Indy. :) Bad memory after 2 years away.

And nod nod Rino. :) Thanks.

quote:
Originally posted by Neriandal Freit

Memory serves right, Kuje stayed there two years prior.

The Hyatt is a fantastic spot to meet up at due to the fact it's connected three different ways I believe, or rather has three different access points. Main Entrance, through Convention Center and another I can not remember.

I vote for White Shirts and Stickers :D

quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

I stayed at the Conrad Hilton last year. It was about two blocks away from the Con. Nice hotel.

-- George Krashos







For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird

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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High

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Posted - 26 Apr 2008 :  03:19:19  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

That's a nice idea, could be useful and maybe our handles. :)

quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

Use stickers that say "Candlekeep Scribe". It's corny, but it would work!



I like it. And perhaps we should have our usernames printed beneath? After all, I don't know what a lot of you look like.

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Kuje
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Posted - 26 Apr 2008 :  03:25:51  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

That's a nice idea, could be useful and maybe our handles. :)

quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

Use stickers that say "Candlekeep Scribe". It's corny, but it would work!



I like it. And perhaps we should have our usernames printed beneath? After all, I don't know what a lot of you look like.



Indeed, that was what I meant by our handles. :)

For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird

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Steven Schend
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author

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Posted - 26 Apr 2008 :  03:40:46  Show Profile  Visit Steven Schend's Homepage Send Steven Schend a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

That's a nice idea, could be useful and maybe our handles. :)

quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

Use stickers that say "Candlekeep Scribe". It's corny, but it would work!





Given the massive amount of stickers, badges, et al at Gen Con on every attendee, you might need some more distinctive way to draw people from more than 10 paces away (or at what distance people can read).

How about placing those badges on one's left shoulders, just for identification from afar? It'll be less embarrassing than wearing them on the forehead.

Steven
who'd love to meet more Candlekeep folks and for whom he'll post his GC schedule as soon as it's finalized....

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Kuje
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Posted - 26 Apr 2008 :  03:48:45  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend

Given the massive amount of stickers, badges, et al at Gen Con on every attendee, you might need some more distinctive way to draw people from more than 10 paces away (or at what distance people can read).

How about placing those badges on one's left shoulders, just for identification from afar? It'll be less embarrassing than wearing them on the forehead.

Steven
who'd love to meet more Candlekeep folks and for whom he'll post his GC schedule as soon as it's finalized....



You're right, I'd forgotten about that as well. The left shoulder is a good idea, especially because people will look at you funny if you stick them on your forehead. HAHA.

Cool, lookin forward to seeing your schedule. I'm still bummed that I can't make the pagan book discussion. :( Wish it was on the wkend like it was in 2006.

For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird

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Markustay
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Posted - 26 Apr 2008 :  16:59:25  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Considering what I just read in another thread -

http://www.enworld.org/showthread.php?t=224301

Are people still going to bother, when there's a good chance that WotC won't be there?

I had theorized this might happen, when the news of George Lucas suing Gencon first came out - WotC licenses GL's IP, one that does VERY well for them. It would make some sense if they refused to attend as a form of 'boycott', in support of their license with GL.

Considering what the lawsuit is for, I find it hard - in all good conscious - to attend.

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Wandering_mage
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Posted - 26 Apr 2008 :  17:44:17  Show Profile  Visit Wandering_mage's Homepage Send Wandering_mage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Maybe some one should put out a format for the left shoulder sticker idea. Maybe like this:

Candlekeep Scribe
Handle/Username for Candlekeep
Real Name
**Wear on left shoulder (not written on sticker)**

What do you think?

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Kuje
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Posted - 26 Apr 2008 :  17:54:17  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wandering_mage

Maybe some one should put out a format for the left shoulder sticker idea. Maybe like this:

Candlekeep Scribe
Handle/Username for Candlekeep
Real Name
**Wear on left shoulder (not written on sticker)**

What do you think?



Works for me. :)

For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird

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Markustay
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Posted - 26 Apr 2008 :  17:55:46  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
How about black armbands, like the ones that came with the Death of Superman comic?

Just a black Armband with the FR logo - appropriate, eh?

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Kuje
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Posted - 26 Apr 2008 :  17:58:00  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

Considering what I just read in another thread -

http://www.enworld.org/showthread.php?t=224301

Are people still going to bother, when there's a good chance that WotC won't be there?

I had theorized this might happen, when the news of George Lucas suing Gencon first came out - WotC licenses GL's IP, one that does VERY well for them. It would make some sense if they refused to attend as a form of 'boycott', in support of their license with GL.

Considering what the lawsuit is for, I find it hard - in all good conscious - to attend.



Yes I'm still going to bother because 1) I don't go to Gencon only for WOTC. 2) I want to meet up with some of the game designers/authors that I've meet up with before even if it's just a hey, how goes type of meeting. 3) Meeting up with some other posters who I haven't seen in two years, except online, and meeting up with other posters who I haven't met ever. 4) It's a nice vacation in the middle of summer. 5) The art exhibits are nice to look at and or buy. Plus many other reasons.

So, I don't go to Gencon only because WOTC goes. If they don't show up, it's doesn't really matter to me. I'm still going because there's enough other companies that are there and they might have products I'm interested in buying.

For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird

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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High

Australia
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Posted - 27 Apr 2008 :  01:20:14  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

Considering what I just read in another thread -

http://www.enworld.org/showthread.php?t=224301

Are people still going to bother, when there's a good chance that WotC won't be there?
I'd still be making the attempt, even if WotC themselves were intending on pulling out. I'm not going to GenCon simply for WotC, I'm going because it's an experience in and off itself. Plus, there are other game companies that I support which regularly host stalls at the Con, like Catalyst Game Labs for example -- some of the biggest Classic BattleTech releases for '08 will be previewed at this year's GenCon. And that's reason enough for me to attend.

As well, from what Kuje has told me about what other features are regularly part of the GenCon line-up, it sounds like there's plenty that I wouldn't want to miss. Like meeting and interacting with game designers, comic folk, the art exhibition [I'm really eager to see this], the Pagan book discussion, and so on. Also, as Kuje just noted above, there now exists the opportunity to meet with fellow Candlekeep scribes. That alone would probably be reason enough just to spend $5,000 on airfare and accomodation, hop on a plane, endure a 25+ hour flight, and participate in my first GenCon.

And finally, there's the opportunity to visit another country. If all goes well with re-arranging my work schedule, I plan to spend more than a week in the US, perhaps even attempting to hit two other states I'd like to visit -- namely New York and Florida. I'd particularly like to see Rochester [smirk], and I'm eager to visit Florida because, apparently, there's a rumor of some strange and exotic creature that looks very much like a giant furry hamster, making its home there.

...

And I approve of Wandering_Mage's idea concerning the ID tags for scribes at GenCon.

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Neriandal Freit
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Posted - 27 Apr 2008 :  01:32:17  Show Profile  Visit Neriandal Freit's Homepage Send Neriandal Freit a Private Message  Reply with Quote
and white shirts!

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KnightErrantJR
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Posted - 27 Apr 2008 :  03:48:10  Show Profile  Visit KnightErrantJR's Homepage Send KnightErrantJR a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Regarding the Lucas lawsuit and Gen Con, and Chapter 11, I'm seeing a lot of places on the internet starting to make Gen Con out to be some kind of malefactor because part of the Lucas lawsuit is in regards to the Make a Wish foundation not getting the money they were promised from the charity auction.

The problem I have with this is that Gen Con didn't do this in order to pull a bait and switch and keep the profits, they did this because they didn't pay anyone associated with the last Star Wars Celebration. They didn't pay event staff, charities, or Lucas. They took a hit in profits with both Gen Con So Cal and the Star Wars Celebration, and they couldn't live up to what they had promised.

Did Gen Con make a mistake and overextend themselves? Yes. Did they make promises they couldn't keep? Yes. Is there any evidence they intentionally misrepresented themselves or illegally kept money from the Make a Wish foundation? No.

Gen Con LLC made a mistake with their business planning, and made promises they couldn't keep. Lucas is completely justified in his lawsuit. This doesn't mean that Gen Con is an unethical business, any more than it means that Marvel was unethical by having to file Chapter 11 when they bought too many companies and the comics' bubble burst in the 90s.

I'm sure that in a lot of cases, a charity is one of the casualties of a business not making money to fulfill a promise. Part of the point of a Chapter 11 filing to so that the business in question can pay back the people that they owe money to. They aren't saying "we aren't going to pay any of you," they are saying "we're filing Chapter 11 so that ONE of you can't sue us and get everything we owe them, and leave the rest of you out in the cold."

I guess I'm just saying I can get people being upset with Gen Con for being short sighted in their business plan, but not for thinking that they were doing something nefarious, beyond simply not knowing how well they could actually follow through on their promises.

(Interestingly enough, if the Chapter 11 wasn't filed and isn't accepted, the Lucas lawsuit, which, in part, is due to Lucas' reputation being damaged by the Make a Wish foundation not making their money from the charity auction, would actually mean that Lucas would get his money first, likely putting Gen Con LLC under, and insuring that Make a Wish wouldn't get any money from Gen Con LLC. Just thought I'd point that irony out)
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riot the outsider
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Posted - 27 Apr 2008 :  04:54:50  Show Profile Send riot the outsider a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I like that idea for the white shirts with black arm bands and a name tag with what kuje said on it I would very much like to meet some of you.And maybe a game or two you would have to guide me a bit though.


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Pasta Fzoul
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Posted - 27 Apr 2008 :  04:58:02  Show Profile Send Pasta Fzoul a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR

They aren't saying "we aren't going to pay any of you," they are saying "we're filing Chapter 11 so that ONE of you can't sue us and get everything we owe them, and leave the rest of you out in the cold."


Indeed. The very fact that chapter 11 is intended to grant a debtor the security in which to repay its debts, makes the idea of WotC "boycotting" the event completely illogical. Does anyone more knowledgeable than me of the law have any alternate theories as to why WotC wouldn't attend because of this situation?
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The Hooded One
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Posted - 27 Apr 2008 :  17:03:39  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have no inside information about this at all, but as someone who's been watching the Wizards presence at GenCon shrink over the years since the convention ceased to be owned by them, and their layoffs and product line downsizing over the same period of time, I'd say it's very likely that any plans to curtail convention presence would purely be to save money.
It costs a LOT of money (air fares, hotel rooms, per diem/feeding, shipping product that is largely given away, warehousing of booth materials, setup and breakdown and security, insurance on all of this) to attend a trade show, often for very little return (yes, products sold at cons often sell out . . . but as the authors who post here at the Keep can tell you, and has Ed has in the past told me, that's often because so few copies were shipped to the con in the first place).
So IF Wizards don't come to GenCon (and I'm not yet convinced that they won't), that would likely be the largest reason why.
love to all,
THO

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KnightErrantJR
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Posted - 29 Apr 2008 :  05:41:07  Show Profile  Visit KnightErrantJR's Homepage Send KnightErrantJR a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yes I know, everyone will tell me we're setting ourselves up for a pain in the tuckas, but I have my badge ordered, and I have the days off work now, so now we can start looking for hotel rooms (which I know will be out in the boonies, but my wife is going along to shop, so I guess I hitch a ride from her in the morning.

So far I'm signed up for Pathfinder events, specifically the Ascension of the Drow event and the "sticking with 3.5" seminar. I might be running some of the Pathfinder Society games, but I don't know if I confirmed with Josh Frost early enough for that.

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Kuje
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Posted - 29 Apr 2008 :  15:08:55  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Cool Knight. :)

For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird

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Ergdusch
Master of Realmslore

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Too bad the Candlekeep-shirt did not make it until GENCON 08 - at least as it stands right now. After all the thought that went into it. Hope it is not completely canceled.

Too bad that I will not make it to GENCON either. I'd love to visit one some day...

Anyhow, good to know that a few folks from the Keep will be around to report back.

Enjoy! Ergdusch

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Edited by - Ergdusch on 29 Apr 2008 19:40:13
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VonRaventheDaring
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Posted - 30 Apr 2008 :  06:46:56  Show Profile  Visit VonRaventheDaring's Homepage Send VonRaventheDaring a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I also love the idea of black armbands, kinda as a tribute to Gary perhaps? but mostly to the death of 3.5 FR.

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Kuje
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Posted - 30 Apr 2008 :  13:16:28  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well guys, we need to decide this then.....

White name tags on the left shoulder
or
black armbands
or
both.

I don't care either way, either are fine with me but lets get a concensus before August so we get the supplies together.

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 30 Apr 2008 :  14:39:21  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Both, both!

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The Sage
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Posted - 30 Apr 2008 :  15:18:42  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What Rinonalyrna said!

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monknwildcat
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New scribe, future first-time GenCon-attendee, longtime FR fan.

I usually hit our local con (PentaCon) in September and plan to attend GenCon "next year", but I'm concerned GenCon won't be around for the proverbial "next year." IMO, I've nephews old enough to attend, particularly in the event this is the beginning of a downward CON-spiral.

To previous attendees, how much fun would GenCon be for a 14 yo? I would have loved to have gone at that age!
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Kuje
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Posted - 30 Apr 2008 :  21:16:29  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by monknwildcat

To previous attendees, how much fun would GenCon be for a 14 yo? I would have loved to have gone at that age!



Hard for me to answer but he might enjoy the computer demos, uh, some of the other games, etc. I dunno. I didn't really look around to much for things that teens could do....

For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird

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The Sage
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Posted - 01 May 2008 :  01:22:23  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by monknwildcat

To previous attendees, how much fun would GenCon be for a 14 yo? I would have loved to have gone at that age!
I'm kinda having the same problem with my little 4-going-on-5 year-old. Obviously, it's likely to be a fairly hectic place, and that can be quite intimidating for a youngling. And I'm not too sure on whether there are any activities scheduled that focus particularly on this age-group.

Also, and this is the more important concern I have, I don't really want her to see when her father goes crazy with ecstatic glee after he hits the Con, and/ or meets up with friends. I want Narnra to still have some respect for her father after all.

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The Hooded One
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Posted - 01 May 2008 :  02:11:52  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sage, I'm not sure what changes the monetary status of GenCon LLC, and the ongoing reconstruction of the RCA Dome-plus complex will wreak upon GenCon Indy this year, but here's the situation as it has been in past Indianapolis years: there have always been daycare facilities and "non-con" dancercise, et al, meetings, plus a "live" clay sculpture (a dragon's head toddlers can be sat upon, or a big-as-a-tiny-car dragon, etc.) going on, plus medieval and Renaissance musical groups performing live (and flogging their CDs). Plus an art exhibit, and the grand exhibit hall. Which is very large and very crowded and very NOISY; some younglings will be scared and intimidated. At certain times of day, traffic along the "front hall" of the con center can get very crowded, shoulder-to-shoulder, and frankly dangerous for young 'uns. Con food is overpriced and bad and there are long lineups. Bathroom facilities are plentiful, large, and fairly well located.
In small doses, the exhibit hall, to the right youngster, can be Paradise come alive. Awesome. The trick is to keep "awesome" from becoming "overwhelming."
Hint: the lobby of the Marriott, right across the road from the front of the con, can become a quiet "flop down on chairs" place after the restaurant and bar close. (The washrooms, however, are well hidden down a long side-corridor.) Upside: there's a mini-Starbucks in the Marriott lobby that sells chilled orange and more exotic juices, milk, chocolate milk, et al as well as the inevitable coffee.
There are "paint and then keep your own mini" events, arrange old CCGs into huge towers ongoing exhibits, and other eye candy. Oh, yes, and gamers wearing weird costumes walking past constantly. LOTS of them.
love,
THO

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Posted - 01 May 2008 :  03:01:33  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hey, I expect I'll be one of them!

I appreciate the info my Lady, it's given me something to think about in terms of what to do with the youngling once we arrive. I know Narnra loves to paint, so I might check out whether the "paint and then keep your own mini" event is child-friendly. And I do intend to expose her to some elements of the Con, but not before I've experienced them myself first [it's purely in the interest of ensuring Narnra isn't overwhelmed by what she'll see and hear, of course ].

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