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Steven Schend
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Posted - 18 Feb 2008 :  17:19:03  Show Profile  Visit Steven Schend's Homepage Send Steven Schend a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Or maybe it's just because you're all tired of George!



They're all too nice to tell me what they really thought of me.

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We just didn't want your head to explode from blushing too much over our effusive opinions of you, George.

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Lady Kazandra
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Posted - 03 Mar 2008 :  10:04:18  Show Profile  Visit Lady Kazandra's Homepage Send Lady Kazandra a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie

P.S. SAGE. THE POWER OF CON COMPELLS YOU!!!
Actually, the POWER of the Lady K is pretty much the only thing that can COMPEL me to attempt something like this.

I still haven't decided whether that is a good thing or not.
Why, it's a good thing of course!

*whack*



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Lady Kazandra
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quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

So you're bringing the Lady K? Or she is bringing you?
I'll be bringing him. You see, Sage is like the lost little puppy dog who follows you everywhere. You can't be rid of him no matter how hard you try.

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AlorinDawn
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Posted - 12 Mar 2008 :  15:35:45  Show Profile  Visit AlorinDawn's Homepage Send AlorinDawn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lady Kazandra

quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

So you're bringing the Lady K? Or she is bringing you?
I'll be bringing him. You see, Sage is like the lost little puppy dog who follows you everywhere. You can't be rid of him no matter how hard you try.



So......is that a commitment that you two are making the trip this time?
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The Sage
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Posted - 12 Mar 2008 :  15:40:58  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That's a definitely maybe.

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Wandering_mage
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Posted - 27 Mar 2008 :  00:19:32  Show Profile  Visit Wandering_mage's Homepage Send Wandering_mage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have bought my 4 day pass and booked my hotel. Huzzah for Gencon! I will try to pop in the forum more often and see if the scribes of Candlekeep will be meeting at this Gencon. It would be an honor to lift a drink in toast to all the lore we have shared with each other. Hope everyone finds a way to get there.

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AlorinDawn
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Posted - 01 Apr 2008 :  02:56:05  Show Profile  Visit AlorinDawn's Homepage Send AlorinDawn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So... My esteemed scribes, sages, and vagabonds. We discussed getting together at Gencon and playing early in this thread I believe. Time is getting near enough to start deciding some details such as who wants to get a game going, who will DM, and when and where shall we play? I can DM or play, either is fine for me. Let’s start discussing the particulars!
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Kuje
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Posted - 01 Apr 2008 :  03:34:35  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by AlorinDawn

So... My esteemed scribes, sages, and vagabonds. We discussed getting together at Gencon and playing early in this thread I believe. Time is getting near enough to start deciding some details such as who wants to get a game going, who will DM, and when and where shall we play? I can DM or play, either is fine for me. Let�s start discussing the particulars!



I'm not sure about getting together for a game but I was planning on posting that we could meet up in front of the Hyatt sign during one of the days at a certain time. It's easier meeting up outside the con center then inside. :)

I'm thinking maybe Sat late afternoon/early evening could be good. We all could maybe go out to dinner after we all meet up outside.... Just tossing out some ideas.

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Brian R. James
Forgotten Realms Game Designer

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Posted - 01 Apr 2008 :  03:53:42  Show Profile  Visit Brian R. James's Homepage Send Brian R. James a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Aaah, so you're going this year then Kuje? Excellent.

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Kuje
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Posted - 01 Apr 2008 :  04:10:50  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Brian R. James

Aaah, so you're going this year then Kuje? Excellent.



Uh oh.... I dunno if I should be concerned or not with that type of post....

But yeah, it seems that I'm being dragged to the con this year since last year had to many problems. Darn cousin had to get married the wkend of the con! :)

For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 01 Apr 2008 :  04:16:50  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I want to go... But taking time off to get married, and then traveling to Ireland for the honeymoon, is going to take too much of my paid vacation. And this is another point in favor of eloping...

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The Sage
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Posted - 01 Apr 2008 :  07:28:00  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Over the next couple of weeks, I'll be trying hard to clear the last few obstacles in my path to Gen Con. Everything looks to be okay so far, but I've still got a few personal issues I want to sort out before I can say for sure that I'll be going.

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Dolfan
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Posted - 01 Apr 2008 :  14:14:56  Show Profile  Visit Dolfan's Homepage Send Dolfan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think I'm about 80% sure that I'm going to go. It feels kind of dumb saying it since people are flying all the way from Australia, but I wasn't really sure that I wanted to make the trip down from western Canada, so I didn't give it serious thought until some other gaming friends starting trying to talk me into it. I guess the final decision will be based on what I end up able to do. Since I'm not really heavily involved in any of the communities out there, I don't have a long list of people to meet, and most of the games that are listed right now don't much interest me either, although the Living Realms game that is supposed to debut there REALLY interests me. I guess right now I'm basing my 80% on what everyone has said about just going for the experience, even if you don't game much.

We'll see how it goes, though. If I can work in a lunch or something with some scribes or especially with Ed, I think that would be fantastic.
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 01 Apr 2008 :  14:46:31  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

I want to go... But taking time off to get married, and then traveling to Ireland for the honeymoon, is going to take too much of my paid vacation. And this is another point in favor of eloping...



Hey, congratulations!

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Wandering_mage
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Posted - 11 Apr 2008 :  15:04:14  Show Profile  Visit Wandering_mage's Homepage Send Wandering_mage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

I want to go... But taking time off to get married, and then traveling to Ireland for the honeymoon, is going to take too much of my paid vacation. And this is another point in favor of eloping...



Hey, congratulations!



You had better take that honeymoon Wooly. Congrats on the upcoming marriage.

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VonRaventheDaring
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Posted - 14 Apr 2008 :  19:59:32  Show Profile  Visit VonRaventheDaring's Homepage Send VonRaventheDaring a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I shall be attending the Great con this year. Are there going to be any realm specific events?

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Posted - 14 Apr 2008 :  22:55:49  Show Profile  Visit Alaundo's Homepage Send Alaundo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well met

Well for GENCON UK, there's a "D&D eXPerience" event and the launch of FR 4e being the main focus. A number of WotC designers will be attending (no news on who, just yet), and various other activities taking place. I received some printed material on my desk from WotC just over a week ago, advertising the event and promoting D&D 4e.

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VonRaventheDaring
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Posted - 17 Apr 2008 :  16:02:02  Show Profile  Visit VonRaventheDaring's Homepage Send VonRaventheDaring a Private Message  Reply with Quote
anything for Gencon Indy? Also what does everyone plan on attending? I know I will be in a Sigil prep game. I might even venture a 4e version of something.......

"Develop the latent abilities within you for that is your power alone. Psionics is the ultimate art of magic and you are its practitioner. Through lifelong dedication, strive to unite your will with your physical form to become one. Only through the unrestrained union of one’s mind and body can the magic of psionics truly be mastered. Throw off the yoke of any who would impose tyranny upon you. Likewise, do not ever force another to submit to your will. Free your mind, free yourself and you have only just begun the path to true psionic mastery. Free others, open their minds to the Invisible Art, and you will show them way to Auppenser."
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Kuje
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Posted - 17 Apr 2008 :  16:24:27  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by VonRaventheDaring

anything for Gencon Indy? Also what does everyone plan on attending? I know I will be in a Sigil prep game. I might even venture a 4e version of something.......



I'm still wondering as well..... No one commented, over on the other page, about if they wanted to get together at the hotel or what.

As for what events I'm planning on going to, I'm not sure. Since it's still only my 2nd time going, I'll probably just wander around again and buy stuff, look at the art exhibits, the comp games, etc. Not sure this year if I'm going to have the desire to go to the Realms events. Well, I might go to Spin a Yarn but the other Realms event I'll probably skip this year.

For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird

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Brian R. James
Forgotten Realms Game Designer

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Posted - 17 Apr 2008 :  20:11:18  Show Profile  Visit Brian R. James's Homepage Send Brian R. James a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I actually wasn't very impressed with Spin a Yarn last year. Too immature for my tastes. But that's not going to stop me from attending...

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Steven Schend
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Posted - 17 Apr 2008 :  20:59:19  Show Profile  Visit Steven Schend's Homepage Send Steven Schend a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Brian R. James

I actually wasn't very impressed with Spin a Yarn last year. Too immature for my tastes. But that's not going to stop me from attending...



It did become a bit of "find out if you can shock Ed" avalanche after a while.

I'd propose that this year's SAY be the chance FR fans have to get Ed to spin the last tale of the current continuity. Have him pull in characters and places and concepts that may or may not survive in the post-Spellplague Abeir-Toril. That'd focus people a bit, I'd think....

SES
who's not mandating that this should definitely be the format--it's Ed's baby, not mine, after all....he's just wishing aloud

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AlorinDawn
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Posted - 18 Apr 2008 :  00:36:01  Show Profile  Visit AlorinDawn's Homepage Send AlorinDawn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Brian R. James

I actually wasn't very impressed with Spin a Yarn last year. Too immature for my tastes. But that's not going to stop me from attending...



Spin a Yarn last year was my first stop at my first Gencon... I know we gamers can be a bit odd to say the least, but... M'kay...
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The Sage
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Well, I've never experienced a live 'Spin A Yarn,' so I'll be glad just to have the opportunity to sit and listen to Ed tell his tale.

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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 18 Apr 2008 :  15:45:51  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think Candlekeep scribes could really help with Spin A Yarn by "steering" the, er, unbridled audience enthusiasms into good plot elements for Ed to include, not the usual ridiculous and, yes, immature "sixteen goblins with overdeveloped mammaries having sex with the same banana whilst covered with strawberry whipped cream and SPRINKLES!" offerings [no, I'm NOT exaggerating; this is a mild - - and actual - - example; that's why WotC stopped posting the list of story elements alongside the story].
Goodness knows, you CAN'T embarrass Ed (and if he draws Shelly again as his WotC minder, you now know how difficult and "not worth it" it is, to try to discomfit her, too).
I agree with Steven: it would be a great "last hurrah 3e character opportunity."
Some scribes did try to do some of this steering last year, and believe me, it WAS appreciated.
I'm sure Ed would love it if Spin A Yarn actually yielded him up some good story ingredients (though he's done a superlative job with last year's [the privy] and the long, Waterdeep-based one), and for those who love the hilarity . . . oh, it'll come, no fear. I'm sure I can depend on both scribes and other gamers who've never darkened the e-doors of Candlekeep for that.
love,
THO

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George Krashos
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I was one of the individuals disappointed with the SAY last year, and I too was at my first GEN-CON.

If I hadn't decided early on that 'serious' suggestions weren't going to shore up the overflowing dyke of ribaldness I would have made these 5 suggestions (with the benefit of hindsight):

- a flashback to the creation of the mythal in Myth Drannor featuring Hesperdan;
- a glimpse of the lair of a powerful dragon with all of its traps and safeguards;
- the (attempted?) plundering of a Netherese tomb by adventurers;
- a scholar's visit to the Vault of Sages in Silverymoon to research matters pertaining to Netheril;
- a look at the ceremony (and abounding intrigues) surrounding the investiture of a new zulkir of Thay.

There's a couple of thousand more vignettes that I would love to see Ed craft into prose but the ones mentioned above would provoke some interesting storytelling, I'm sure.

-- George Krashos

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KnightErrantJR
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EN World has a news item on the front page at the moment that seems to indicate that WOTC might not actually attend Gen Con this year, the reason given being that the company (Gen Con LLC) is in Chapter 11. Now, many companies have been in Chapter 11 and they do just fine after they get all of their creditors sorted out (look at Marvel comics), but having the BIG PLAYER in the RPG industry pull support and say that its because of the Chapter 11 might just make this a self fulfilling prophesy.

I don't want to sound conspiratorial, but this just doesn't ring true that WOTC would not attend because of this, especially when there has been no indication, that I can find, that the convention wouldn't go on this year.

This news had me kind of worried, and I'm trying not to think of this as a potential, "We ARE the RPG industry, so why should we support a show that promotes anyone else," mindset from WOTC, to the degree of actually trying to scuttle the show to keep anyone else from having any chance at showing their wares.

Hopefully I'm off base here.

Edit: I'm really, really sorry I didn't make this clearer. In these bizarre days I didn't want to contribute to any strange rumors flying around, so I edited the post to reflect, more clearly, that it was Gen Con LLC that is in Chapter 11.

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 21 Apr 2008 :  01:28:31  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Dare I ask, what is "Chapter 11"? Deep in debt?

Regarding SAY: I'm all for people having fun and being silly, trust me...but like many others I'd prefer that the requests weren't so over the top. Ed is the type who will add humor to his stories, anyway.

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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

Dare I ask, what is "Chapter 11"? Deep in debt?




Chapter 11 is a flavor of bankruptcy. I believe it allows them to continue operating, without having to pay their creditors, while they get their financial feet under them again.

If they are in bankruptcy, it could help explain why they are pushing 4E so hard, and why its drawing so heavily on MMOs -- they see the money going there, and they are desparate for a piece of it.

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 21 Apr 2008 :  01:55:59  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

Dare I ask, what is "Chapter 11"? Deep in debt?




Chapter 11 is a flavor of bankruptcy. I believe it allows them to continue operating, without having to pay their creditors, while they get their financial feet under them again.

If they are in bankruptcy, it could help explain why they are pushing 4E so hard, and why its drawing so heavily on MMOs -- they see the money going there, and they are desparate for a piece of it.



Good lord, I have no clue about anything that. Thanks for the enlightenment, guys.

It does kind of explain the "we need to take risks" mode WotC seems to be in with regards to the FR. Or maybe I'm reading into it too much?

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Kuje
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Uh guys, WOTC doesn't have anything to do with Gencon LLC, which is the company that produces the Gencons. WOTC stepped back from running Gencon many years ago. So the chapter 11 has nothing to do with WOTC.

I did post the chapter 11 press release from Gencon LLC a few months ago and it's midway down on page 4.

For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird

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