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initiate
Learned Scribe

Canada
102 Posts

Posted - 21 Aug 2007 :  23:29:53  Show Profile  Visit initiate's Homepage Send initiate a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Your right about cannon and how we shouldn't consider it overly binding in our games or imaginations. Personally, I prefer to stick to cannon, though I'm not quite sure why. S'ppose I find it fun to wind a campaign plot around what's "officially" going on, making use of the big events to add flavour and plot points. Then again, nothing's happened in cannon yet that really ticks me off. I'm sure there're things WotC might do to cannon Faerun that might convince me to take my ball and go home, and your right, it probably would be pretty liberating, [save money, too]: For instance, they could kill some more of my favourite characters such as Storm, Mirt, Alustriel, el, Manshoon etc. Thus far most of the major deaths have felt right and good to me, but they'd be pushing their luck with this fan if they tried some of the above. I could also see the current drow plot ending in ways that would cause me to break cannon. Another reason that I tend to focus on cannon is due to a lot of my experience of FR being through novels, which I follow quite actively. Still, hopefully it'll all work out okay. I'm not yet sold on the 4E system mecanics wise, but the purported leaning toward lore in the new FRCS makes it sound like the designers really want to do something interesting with the setting. Again, wary though I am, I can't wait to see what they come up with. It probably won't satisfy everyone, but we can hope.

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ShepherdGunn
Seeker

USA
89 Posts

Posted - 22 Aug 2007 :  10:22:31  Show Profile  Visit ShepherdGunn's Homepage Send ShepherdGunn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The Shepherd's Definition:

Canon- That which is set down as "true" and "real" in a fictional setting.

Canon is important sometimes, but other times, it should be loaded into a cannon and shot through some corporate mogul's window. (Hides the large cannon that he's filling with "The Legacy of the Force" and "The New Republic" Star Wars Novels)

"Man does not live by bread alone, likewise, blades and arrows aren't the only things that can kill him."
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Asgetrion
Master of Realmslore

Finland
1564 Posts

Posted - 23 Aug 2007 :  23:14:26  Show Profile  Visit Asgetrion's Homepage Send Asgetrion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

If my future FR library consists mainly of 2e products that I don't have yet, and my Realms stays "stuck" in 1374-1375, that's fine with me!



We're still stuck in 1369, I think... and will be, at least for a few (real world) years to come.

"What am I doing today? Ask me tomorrow - I can be sure of giving you the right answer then."
-- Askarran of Selgaunt, Master Sage, speaking to a curious merchant, Year of the Helm
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MerrikCale
Senior Scribe

USA
947 Posts

Posted - 25 Aug 2007 :  01:42:43  Show Profile  Visit MerrikCale's Homepage Send MerrikCale a Private Message  Reply with Quote
There was a blurb about a Players Guide follow up to the FRCS which will focus on Feats, PrCs, and Traits



When hinges creak in doorless chambers and strange and frightening sounds echo through the halls, whenever candlelights flicker where the air is deathly still, that is the time when ghosts are present, practicing their terror with ghoulish delight.
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Jorkens
Great Reader

Norway
2950 Posts

Posted - 25 Aug 2007 :  09:24:26  Show Profile Send Jorkens a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Asgetrion

quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

If my future FR library consists mainly of 2e products that I don't have yet, and my Realms stays "stuck" in 1374-1375, that's fine with me!



We're still stuck in 1369, I think... and will be, at least for a few (real world) years to come.



forties and fifties for me and my campaigns, so what ever happens in canon by now is a next generation thing.
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JEThetford
Acolyte

USA
44 Posts

Posted - 25 Aug 2007 :  15:50:35  Show Profile  Visit JEThetford's Homepage Send JEThetford a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I would not mind seeing a rebuild of the older stuff into 4E. Like City of Splendors, Waterdeep, Undermountain (an actual product not an adventure--and one that has the actual Yawning Portal mapped out) and a numerous number of Modules from 2nd Edition.

Now, I am not talking about just updating to 4E, but adding mmore information to them so that we have more Lore and Story line to use in adventures.

----Aaomas Balkrim aka Jeff Thetford
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MerrikCale
Senior Scribe

USA
947 Posts

Posted - 27 Aug 2007 :  02:12:45  Show Profile  Visit MerrikCale's Homepage Send MerrikCale a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I thought I read somewhere that future FR sourcebooks will focus less on crunch and more on fluff



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SirUrza
Master of Realmslore

USA
1283 Posts

Posted - 27 Aug 2007 :  03:48:59  Show Profile Send SirUrza a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Spell Plague could result in 1 of 2 things for the realms..

1) It's just a silly storyline that's not important and an excuse to introduce new things to the Realms from other settings (like the Eberron garbage.) The 10 years later is an advancement to put the setting in the during or post "reconstruction" era of Spell Plague.

2) The Spell Plague is going to be Wizards way of rewriting the Realms the way they want it so they don't have to "canon" check this, that, and everything else.. allowing them to dictate the Realms they want it, not the Realms we've known for the last three decades.


If it's going to be option 2, I see a lot of people bailing out on the Realms. I for one don't want to see a Cormyr with a broken dynasty. I don't want to see a Realms were most of the chosen are dead, crippled, or otherwised removed from the world. If WE don't want to use them in our campaigns, we don't have to, Wizards doesn't need to put it in print that they're dead for the sake of removing them because a vocal minority don't like them. There's a whole lot of other things I don't like, both happening to the good and the bad.

Fun part is, two of the DMs I play with said that if Warforge don't have an excellent reason for being in the Realms, they're never going to be in their Realms. I have to agree with them, don't DM often, but if their introduction into the Realms is half assed I'm certainly not using them.

"Evil prevails when good men fail to act."
The original and unapologetic Arilyn, Aribeth, Seoni Fanboy.
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader

USA
7106 Posts

Posted - 29 Aug 2007 :  00:20:13  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by initiate
Another reason that I tend to focus on cannon is due to a lot of my experience of FR being through novels, which I follow quite actively.



I read every novel I can get my hands on, initiate. Since there have been books I haven't liked (or, books I thought were good but contained events I didn't like), I've mentally "blocked out" those events and don't consider them the "truth" in my Realms. With practice, it's not that hard.

"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time)
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