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Victor_ograygor
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Posted - 10 Aug 2007 :  10:29:22  Show Profile  Visit Victor_ograygor's Homepage Send Victor_ograygor a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Greetings all

I am seeking all the information I can get on these issues:

Pilgrims
What holy site’s do pilgrims travel to?

What I know
- Roseglow Church is such a sight that it draws Lathanderite pilgrims from all over the region
- Voonlar’s temple of Chauntea draws Chauntean pilgrims from all over the region

Holy sites not temples ore shrines
Do anybody know of any holy sites that isn’t a temple ore shrine. A statue, monument ore anything like that

The spiritual leaders of each religion
I am trying to find the Spiritual leader of each religion, religion what do I have to look fore?

- Highest Level
- The chosen
- The head master (priest) of the greatest temple to the religion.

Thanks in advance.

Vic

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Some of these don't have answers like who the spiritual leader is of each faith since some faiths don't have a spiritual leader. Especially since some temples are spread out so far across the continent, especially for the chaotic faiths. What I mean is that, take Cyric for example, his faiths probably don't have a grand leader and only have leaders of each individual church.

I know there's one for Waukeen and he is in my NPC files near the end of the cleric list from the 1e/2e file.

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The Sage
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Just from reading about the basic organisational structures of most clergies in the Realms [in Faiths & Avatars for example], we can see that a number of the faithful orders of particular deities aren't as well structured or as integrated as some others. This can make determining an overall spiritual leader difficult, if not impossible. And in some cases, there may even be several specific spiritual leaders, each representing either the major or minor factions among a particular faith.

As for holy sites... it really depends on whether you're looking for anything specific. Most of the deity-related books [there's a couple mentioned in Prayers from the Faithful as I recall] contain tidbits about some holy sites attached to particular deities. There's always a couple mentioned in the occasional regional tome as well. I think both Ed and Steven have talked about a few in their replies here at Candlekeep also.

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Victor, that's hundreds of pieces of information from scores of books. We can't do all that research for you unless you narrow it down by priesthood or area.
quote:
Originally posted by Victor_ograygor
Holy sites not temples ore shrines
Do anybody know of any holy sites that isn’t a temple ore shrine. A statue, monument ore anything like that
In the countryside and wilderness, almost all these places are shrines.

Edited by - Faraer on 10 Aug 2007 18:25:34
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Victor_ograygor
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Posted - 10 Aug 2007 :  19:17:43  Show Profile  Visit Victor_ograygor's Homepage Send Victor_ograygor a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faraer

Victor, that's hundreds of pieces of information from scores of books. We can't do all that research for you unless you narrow it down by priesthood or area.
quote:
Originally posted by Victor_ograygor
Holy sites not temples ore shrines
Do anybody know of any holy sites that isn’t a temple ore shrine. A statue, monument ore anything like that
In the countryside and wilderness, almost all these places are shrines.



Temples and shines done(have them),fore all deities in FR – maybe I missed one ore two in some novels.

But Holy site’s they are hard to find since they are mentioned different FR books / novels and so one.. nothing is imposibel

And about The spiritual leaders in FR I think its a job fore… Ed, I will try to ask him. There should be some fore the lawful religions.

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Amnezjusz
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Posted - 10 Aug 2007 :  19:59:34  Show Profile  Visit Amnezjusz's Homepage Send Amnezjusz a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
A statue, monument ore anything like that

For hobgoblins who venerates Nomog-Geaya holy site is statue located in Gorge of the Fallen Idol in Tethyr.

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First of all, not all religions have Chosen (IMO, only Mystra has "real" Chosen). Second, just because someone is "Chosen" by a god doesn't mean they are the highest "spiritual leader", or that they'd be the best person to get spirtual advice from. What if they're crazy, or dangerous, or just want to be left alone?

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Victor_ograygor
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Posted - 11 Aug 2007 :  01:33:01  Show Profile  Visit Victor_ograygor's Homepage Send Victor_ograygor a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

First of all, not all religions have Chosen (IMO, only Mystra has "real" Chosen). Second, just because someone is "Chosen" by a god doesn't mean they are the highest "spiritual leader", or that they'd be the best person to get spirtual advice from. What if they're crazy, or dangerous, or just want to be left alone?



I know that it doesn’t mean that you are the highest "spiritual leader" of a religion just because you are a Chosen, but it could help a little (just a thought)

It seams that there isn’t much stuff to find on these issues: Pilgrims / Holy sites

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Quite the reverse, there's too much to quickly search for.

Here are a few places explicitly named as sites of religious pilgrimage:

Deneir: Master's Library, Earthfast Mountains
Grumbar: the Muaraghal, Halruaa
Mielikki: the Green Door, Essembra, Battledale
Shaundakul: Shaundakul's Throne, Myth Drannor; the Wind-Rider's Way, Calimport, Calimshan
Sune: the Lady Rapturous, Nyth, Easting Reach
Waukeen: Five Silvers/Five Coins, Amn

Thard Harr: Morndin Vertesplendarrorn, Chult

Shevarash: Vault of Unquenched Vengeance, Cormanthor

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Victor_ograygor
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Posted - 11 Aug 2007 :  02:27:52  Show Profile  Visit Victor_ograygor's Homepage Send Victor_ograygor a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Great

Thanks where did you find this information

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Amnezjusz
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Holy site for worshipers of Garagos, Sharees and Jergal is located in Godswalk Keep in Barony of Great Oak in Border Kingdoms. In the night called 'Meeting of the Three' avatars of these gods meets there, where Garagos always try to beat J. and S. and always...can't achieve his goal.

Worshipers of Nobanion have their holy site - enormous great granite called Machran Spire - in village of Gurnth (deep in the Gulthmere Forest).

For Uthgardt worshippers holy sites are mounds of their tribe ancestors. For example for Tree Ghost tribe holy site is Grandfather Tree; for Great Worm tribe holy site is in Great Worm Caverns; or for Red Tiger tribe h.s. is in Beorunna's Well.

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Victor_ograygor
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Great Amnezjusz

This information is much appreciated, if you have more let me here

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Edited by - Victor_ograygor on 12 Aug 2007 00:42:48
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