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Kuje
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 Posted - 07 Aug 2007 : 15:46:02
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Earlier in the week I posted this in the Dungeon/Dragon close down thread but I decided to open a new topic for news about Gleemax.
As I said on the 4th of August: "The first one has me concerned because of the legal problems that this might cause so I'll give warning about anything that is republished from the Compendium, because we still publish it on the net and thus it is published. So, since Gleemax is going to change their ToS, I'm a bit concerned about material showing up over there because the ToS says anything published over there cannot be published elsewhere.
http://www.gleemax.com/articles/announcement010.html"
There's some new info about this.
From Randy Buelher: "A couple of points we have changed/clarified, largely based on the conversations on these boards:
1) The Official Game Info Pages will be covered by a different policy than the rest of the site. On those official pages, users give us a much more limited license that doesn't give us much of anything except the right to have that content posted on our site.
2) Our lawyers won't let us have that policy apply to the rest of the site because there's too much danger that we will independently invent a game, or a mechanic, or a card/feat that someone else posted to the site without us even noticing and then sue us. Our lawyers will, however, allow me to tell you that we have no intention to knowingly publish anyone else's content (not without contacting and compensating them anyway) ... it's just that we expect it to happen by accident fairly often so we're obliged to cover for that.
Note that anyone who doesn't trust us enough to post their original intellectual policy to their personal page can always jump through the hoops and get an official game info page ...
Randy"
http://69.8.198.225/showthread.php?t=901463
More quotes from Randy: "There's no one blanket answer to your question, but I think I can address it anyway. I know that the D&D guys are planning to use Gleemax to help them find new writing talent. They still intend to pay writers for magazine-style content and the easiest way to find those writers is going to be to browse the user-generated content portions of Gleemax and see who the audience is rating highest. That's also a good way to find the content itself.
There's no kind of automatic compensation guarantees built in because one thing that happens all the time is that multiple people will think up the same idea. I constantly see "new" Magic cards online that I know are already in our database. In the Great Designer Search there were several times when a designer submitted a card that was already in an upcoming set that we had signed off on but had not yet published.
So we're not promising any sort of compensation because we don't want to wind up in a position where someone is demanding compensation that isn't called for. However, we do believe in identifying and rewarding talented contributors and we'll definitely be watching the community to see who we might want to work with as contractors or even, hypothetically, as employees."
This bottom one has me going hmmmm.
And from Scott: "I don't see fansite policy changing. IMO they serve a valuable function for promoting a product like D&D. In the past other companies effort to shut down fansites have really backfired from a consumer goodwill and PR standpoint. That being said we need to look at each and make sure that our interests are being maintained (an example is to have more clearly defined fansite policy)."
http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=896542
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Edited by - Kuje on 07 Aug 2007 15:46:55
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
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Posted - 07 Aug 2007 : 16:58:04
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Interesting. I would assume if they don't have a problem with the better known fansites, and they want to maintain goodwill, that their fansite policy will end up just formalizing letting the various sites doing what they already are.
I know when there was some concern about the content on the DragonLance Nexus at the DragonLance boards, Mike Lescault popped in and said that he couldn't forsee any problem with the content on that site, and given that they do much the same for DL that we do for FR, I would hope the answer would be the same for us. |
Edited by - KnightErrantJR on 08 Aug 2007 03:06:50 |
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Alaundo
Head Moderator
United Kingdom
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Faraer
Great Reader
3308 Posts |
Posted - 09 Aug 2007 : 23:42:00
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Yes, thank you.
Is the name 'Gleemax', with its echo of Orwell's 'doubleplusgood' and brain-in-jar device, intentionally sinister? |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 10 Aug 2007 : 00:34:52
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Originally posted by Faraer
Yes, thank you.
Is the name 'Gleemax', with its echo of Orwell's 'doubleplusgood' and brain-in-jar device, intentionally sinister?
Maybe!
So, uh, what's Gleemax? I know it's in the URL of the Wizards boards, but I don't know anything else about it.
EDIT: Got my answer by looking at the site. But yes, it does seem rather...sinister. |
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SirUrza
Master of Realmslore
USA
1283 Posts |
Posted - 10 Aug 2007 : 02:54:27
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
So, uh, what's Gleemax? I know it's in the URL of the Wizards boards, but I don't know anything else about it.
Seems to be the new digital publishing section(?) of Wizards. I guess they've separated it from the rest of the Wizards site to keep any.. well bad PR things disconnected from Wizards itself. :) |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 10 Aug 2007 : 23:39:06
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I was thinking--what is with the yucky, slime-green coloring of the website? It's nauseating! Is that really the best format to attract gamers of all stripes? |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Faraer
Great Reader
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Posted - 11 Aug 2007 : 00:02:25
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SirUrza
Master of Realmslore
USA
1283 Posts |
Posted - 11 Aug 2007 : 20:51:04
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| It's the low budget design. :) |
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Skeptic
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1273 Posts |
Posted - 11 Aug 2007 : 21:31:14
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I feel the same, the look of it make me . |
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Ergdusch
Master of Realmslore
Germany
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Posted - 14 Aug 2007 : 09:38:19
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Well, I have tried to follow this thread and I still don't understand what exactly this new Gleemax site is good for. Will we see FR material published over there? Or is it for compensating the Dragon magazines in the future....? Are the Dragon magazine and gleemax even related at all?
I don't get it.
Edit: and yes the look is not very appealing! |
"Das Gras weht im Wind, wenn der Wind weht." |
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Ergdusch
Master of Realmslore
Germany
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Posted - 14 Aug 2007 : 10:04:13
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Alright folks - I did a quick scan of the topics here at candlekeep and found my answers herein:
http://forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9247&whichpage=6
This new online thing - gleemax - after reading about it a bit I cansay that I don't like it much as of yet. |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
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Posted - 14 Aug 2007 : 12:22:19
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To be fair, Gleemax is the "portal" to what they want to do. Its related to the whole "digital initiative" and it will be the "hub" of sites dedicated to other forms of gaming, but from what has been said, Dungeon, Dragon, and the D&D specific parts of the site will be distinct from Gleemax itself.
Then again, I suspect that come Thursday we might have a bit more information on all of this, but then again, maybe not. |
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Skeptic
Master of Realmslore
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
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Posted - 21 Aug 2007 : 19:37:00
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I didn't see anything about Gleemax. 
Only tons and TONS of Magic info....  |
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Sanishiver
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 30 Aug 2007 : 06:57:17
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It's like myspace.com, but for gamers, with tools built in for gamers.
...I think. |
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Skeptic
Master of Realmslore
Canada
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Posted - 30 Aug 2007 : 07:06:08
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Originally posted by Sanishiver
It's like myspace.com, but for gamers, with tools built in for gamers.
...I think.
Hmm, it seems that the page I linked was changed afterward. |
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Erundur
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 05 Nov 2007 : 00:29:36
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$9.95 a month for Gleemax, and if Edition-change trends continue, $50.00 for each source book. Is even the current $30-$40 necessary to sustain a decent profit for those 'Wizards of the Coast', or are they toeing the line of outrageousness?
Pirate Wizards of the Sword Coast? |
Inye Erundur, Varyar Eruhinion. |
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Kentinal
Great Reader
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Posted - 05 Nov 2007 : 00:34:53
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Originally posted by Erundur
$9.95 a month for Gleemax, and if Edition-change trends continue, $50.00 for each source book. Is even the current $30-$40 necessary to sustain a decent profit for those 'Wizards of the Coast', or are they toeing the line of outrageousness?
Pirate Wizards of the Sword Coast?
Hmm the price has gone up to between 10.00 and 15.00 USD per month for Insider. Not sure what they plan to sell books for or what they will charge for ebook access. |
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"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
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imis999
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 05 Nov 2007 : 03:33:55
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| Have they announced a price for Dungeon and Dragon? To be honest, I do not even go onto Gleemax and it is free. Why would anyone pay for Gleemax? |
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Sian
Senior Scribe
Denmark
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Posted - 05 Nov 2007 : 06:32:20
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| well ... with the us dollar lower than ever i only think that it is us citizens that are 'mad' about the prices ... even if the prices per book raise to $50, then i would still have to pay around 10 bucks more before paying the same as i've done till now *grins* |
what happened to the queen? she's much more hysterical than usual
She's a women, it happens once a month |
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Kentinal
Great Reader
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Posted - 05 Nov 2007 : 13:47:50
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Originally posted by imis999
Have they announced a price for Dungeon and Dragon? To be honest, I do not even go onto Gleemax and it is free. Why would anyone pay for Gleemax?
The ezines do not have a seperate price, though a few have requested that option. As it stands now only way to get the mags will be purchasing the entire package. The mags will not be printed at all. |
"Small beings can have small wisdom," the dragon said. "And small wise beings are better than small fools. Listen: Wisdom is caring for afterwards."
"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
"After action, afterwards," the dragon said. "Choose the afterwards first, then the action. Fools choose action first."
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 05 Nov 2007 : 17:07:23
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| Where can these details be found? I've glanced at the site, and not seen anything about this. |
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Hawkins
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 05 Nov 2007 : 17:46:48
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Where can these details be found? I've glanced at the site, and not seen anything about this.
I started a thread protesting the name "Gleemax" a couple of months back. The name reminds me of the Divine Secrets of the Ya-Ya Sisterhood or The Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants (two movies I actually have not watched, but their titles come to mind all the same). Anyways, it is supposed to be named after a M:tG card. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36998 Posts |
Posted - 05 Nov 2007 : 18:03:34
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quote:
Originally posted by HawkinstheDM
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Where can these details be found? I've glanced at the site, and not seen anything about this.
I started a thread protesting the name "Gleemax" a couple of months back. The name reminds me of the Divine Secrets of the Ya-Ya Sisterhood or The Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants (two movies I actually have not watched, but their titles come to mind all the same). Anyways, it is supposed to be named after a M:tG card.
It is a horrible name... But I was curious about these pricing/packaging details I see people speaking of. |
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Kentinal
Great Reader
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Posted - 05 Nov 2007 : 18:17:01
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http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=910164
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What will the cost of D&D Insider be, and what will the benefits be?
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Originally Posted by randybuehler View Post
D&D Insider will cost more than a magazine subsciption but less than an MMO. The precise figure hasn't been announced (or decided). For this monthly fee you get:
- Online Dragon and Dungeon magazine content (3 updates per week which then get fodled together into monthly issues as well)
- DM Tools
- Character Generator with all the rules from all the books wired in plus the visual aspects from the video we posted
- D&D Game Table unlimited access for using the 'Net to connect players to play D&D
In addition, there will be ways to "pay as you go" and access these features without being a monthly subscriber, paying a small amount for one session at the game table for example.
In addition, all books will come with a code that you can type in to get an e-version of the book (searchable, readable on your laptop, etc). D&D Insider subscribers will also see all the content from that book unlocked in the various Insider databases once they type in that code as well.
As for last price estimate that was an answer the Sage gave in ask Sage questions and answers. |
"Small beings can have small wisdom," the dragon said. "And small wise beings are better than small fools. Listen: Wisdom is caring for afterwards."
"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
"After action, afterwards," the dragon said. "Choose the afterwards first, then the action. Fools choose action first."
"Judgement" copyright 2003 by Elizabeth Moon |
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Hawkins
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 05 Nov 2007 : 18:21:14
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| I accidentally must have clicked the Quote button and did not realize it. Sorry. The Enworld Unofficial D&D 4th Edition Info Page the easiest to navigate data on the D&D Insider and what it will cost. Gleemax itself is supposed to cost nothing. But for D&D Insider you have to have a Gleemax/D&D Insider account, which you may still be blocked from Wooly, since the my account there was migrated from the D&D Forums. I am debating as to whether the purposed 10 USD is worth it for the bits of Realmslore they will stick in there. I really want the Realmslore, but I will not be converting to 4e for at least 2-4 years, so I do not know if the Realmslore alone will be worth it. |
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One, two! One, two! And through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back. --Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass
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* Compendium Arcanum Volume 2: 1st-Level Spells (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Martial Arts Guidebook (forthcoming) (PFRPG, designer; Rite Publishing)
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jul 2008 : 05:12:33
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And in the news... Gleemax is CANCELLED!!!
Now who didn't see this coming?
Bit off more then they can chew, much? |
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Kajehase
Great Reader
Sweden
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Posted - 29 Jul 2008 : 05:41:46
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| Now, now Markus. Such glee in the face of others' misfortune is unbecoming. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36998 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jul 2008 : 06:43:29
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“We have the two best games in the world,” said Randy Buehler, VP of Digital Games for Wizards of the Coast, “we need to take care of them before expanding into new digital arenas.”
This statement makes me wonder about the digital stuff we've been promised but have yet to see... |
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Purple Dragon Knight
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1796 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jul 2008 : 08:26:47
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Originally posted by Kajehase
Now, now Markus. Such glee in the face of others' misfortune is unbecoming.
Shaddup! 
"...and one by one they fall under the mighty hammer of GROGNARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Ok, let's resume our civilized, non-celebratory discussion on the slow decline of the D&D/FR brands...
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