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darkcrow
Learned Scribe
USA
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 Posted - 24 Jun 2007 : 17:46:11
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A very good book. And being Mark Anthony's first novel, I'm impressed. There are short stories that link his two novels ( the other being Curse of the Shadowmage ). Can someone arrange this list in order
Crypt of the Shadowking
Curse of the Shadowmage
King's Tear (Realms of Valor)
The Magic Thief (Realms of Magic)
The Walls of Midnight (Realms of Infamy)
Thanks my most trusted scribes
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darkcrow
Learned Scribe
USA
269 Posts |
Posted - 24 Jun 2007 : 21:23:11
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I've done a little research of my own and I think this is the order.
The Walls of Midnight (Realms of Infamy)
King's Tear (Realms of Valor)
Crypt of the Shadowking
The Magic Thief (Realms of Magic)
Curse of the Shadowmage
Please tell me if I'm wrong. And if you have not had the honor to read these tales, then your life will forever more feel empty until you do so! |
May Tymora smile upon ye |
Edited by - darkcrow on 25 Jun 2007 01:44:32 |
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scererar
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 25 Jun 2007 : 04:44:06
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| Yes, these are great. they refer to a form of shadow magic, prior to the shadow weave/ magic becoming popular. |
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TomCosta
Forgotten Realms Designer
USA
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Posted - 25 Jun 2007 : 17:39:22
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| You can always check the official list that WotC posted some years back that included dates for all the novels and short stories up until that time, including all of the above tales. Go to the books section archive on their website and go back a few years to find it. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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MerrikCale
Senior Scribe
USA
947 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jun 2007 : 17:03:58
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| I always considered those two books among the best of the Harper series |
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Copper Elven Vampire
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 12 Apr 2010 : 01:31:39
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| Do they involve any elves as main characters? |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36803 Posts |
Posted - 12 Apr 2010 : 04:48:44
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Originally posted by Copper Elven Vampire
Do they involve any elves as main characters?
I don't remember any elves... But it's been so long since I've read them that I could be mistaken. And there's a reason it's been a long time since I read those books.  |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 12 Apr 2010 : 05:43:16
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Copper Elven Vampire
Do they involve any elves as main characters?
I don't remember any elves... But it's been so long since I've read them that I could be mistaken. And there's a reason it's been a long time since I read those books.
I re-read them recently. And I don't recall any prominent elven characters in the novels. |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 12 Apr 2010 : 07:29:46
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
quote:
Originally posted by Copper Elven Vampire
Do they involve any elves as main characters?
I don't remember any elves... But it's been so long since I've read them that I could be mistaken. And there's a reason it's been a long time since I read those books.
So what is the reason you haven't read those books in awhile Wooly?
I haven't read them yet. I will eventually. |
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to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36803 Posts |
Posted - 12 Apr 2010 : 11:07:51
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Originally posted by Brimstone
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
quote:
Originally posted by Copper Elven Vampire
Do they involve any elves as main characters?
I don't remember any elves... But it's been so long since I've read them that I could be mistaken. And there's a reason it's been a long time since I read those books.
So what is the reason you haven't read those books in awhile Wooly?
I haven't read them yet. I will eventually.
Because I didn't find them all that enjoyable. |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
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3287 Posts |
Posted - 12 Apr 2010 : 11:26:49
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Ok. Good to know. Thanks.
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"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
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Edited by - Brimstone on 12 Apr 2010 11:27:51 |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3287 Posts |
Posted - 12 Apr 2010 : 11:39:11
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| Wasn't The Shadowking a Bard? |
"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
Alaundo of Candlekeep |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3287 Posts |
Posted - 12 Apr 2010 : 21:58:21
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Cool. Thanks Sage.
So was he a Shade before it was cool/awesome/uber(TM) to be a Shade? |
"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
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Faraer
Great Reader
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Posted - 13 Apr 2010 : 01:02:00
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| While memory's fresh: is Ravendas a sorceress or a warrior? Does Mark Anthony introduce any other new Zhentarim or Zhentilar characters in these stories? |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31772 Posts |
Posted - 13 Apr 2010 : 01:58:16
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Originally posted by Brimstone
Cool. Thanks Sage.
So was he a Shade before it was cool/awesome/uber(TM) to be a Shade?
Indeed. He became the new Shadowking of the Shadevari -- as the Villains' Lorebook notes, as I recall. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31772 Posts |
Posted - 13 Apr 2010 : 01:59:01
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Originally posted by Faraer
While memory's fresh: is Ravendas a sorceress or a warrior? Does Mark Anthony introduce any other new Zhentarim or Zhentilar characters in these stories?
Ravendas was a fighter.
I don't recall any prominent Zhentarim or Zhentilar above the common rank-and-file being mentioned, though. Might have to flick through the books again, just to be sure. |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3287 Posts |
Posted - 13 Apr 2010 : 09:12:47
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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
quote:
Originally posted by Brimstone
Cool. Thanks Sage.
So was he a Shade before it was cool/awesome/uber(TM) to be a Shade?
Indeed. He became the new Shadowking of the Shadevari -- as the Villains' Lorebook notes, as I recall.
Cool. Was he also the same Shadowking from the earlier Kingdom of Ebonfar? Didn't he war with the Yuan-Ti Kingdom of Najra? |
"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
Alaundo of Candlekeep |
Edited by - Brimstone on 13 Apr 2010 09:13:20 |
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Faraer
Great Reader
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Posted - 14 Apr 2010 : 17:21:55
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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
Ravendas was a fighter.
Volo erred, then (VGSC p. 202), or knew something we don't. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 15 Apr 2010 : 00:57:57
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quote:
Originally posted by Faraer
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
Ravendas was a fighter.
Volo erred, then (VGSC p. 202), or knew something we don't.
Curious. The 1998 Villains' Lorebook lists Ravendas as "Fighter." But she's referred to as a sorceress back in 1994's Volo's Guide to the Sword Coast.
Either Volo got it wrong, the details in the Villains' Lorebook are wrong [possible, given the fact that Crypt of the Shadowking was written in 1993], or she's capable of both. But I suppose this would be an instance of newer lore trumping old?
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Eledar
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 24 Oct 2010 : 03:36:08
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| Crypt of the Shadowking is the very novel which introduced me to the Realms. It was the first of the Realms novels I read, and one of the first books in the entire fantasy genre. It is the book that returns me to places like these. Although I do enjoy most of the modern writings, I am still in love with old adventures such as these, before all of the new updates/expansions. |
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Seravin
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1288 Posts |
Posted - 24 Jan 2014 : 19:11:41
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Just read this for the first time. Very enjoyable. I'm surprised Wooly didn't like it because I usually am in 100% agreement with his tastes. I liked the mage in the party(Morgion? spelling error), and an entire novel spent in Iriaebor (again, spelling). It didn't make sense that the locals would let Cutter/Ravendas take over the way she did, and that the allied cities Berdusk and Elturel would let the city go under Zhent control like that. Also was Ravendas really the leader of the Flaming Fist at one point? Was the library they went to in the Snowflake Mountains the Edificient Library from the Cleric Quintet?
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charger_ss24
Learned Scribe
USA
108 Posts |
Posted - 24 Jan 2014 : 23:19:39
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Originally posted by Eledar
Crypt of the Shadowking is the very novel which introduced me to the Realms. It was the first of the Realms novels I read, and one of the first books in the entire fantasy genre. It is the book that returns me to places like these. Although I do enjoy most of the modern writings, I am still in love with old adventures such as these, before all of the new updates/expansions.
Funny...even though Crypt of the Shadowking wasn't my first fantasy genre book, it was the first book I've read in the Forgotten Realms setting and been hooked ever since. |
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shorac
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 10 Feb 2014 : 23:46:09
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| I loved the shadowking books both were very good I'd like to see more of them |
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