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Gwenfloor
Acolyte

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Posted - 08 Jun 2007 :  02:30:43  Show Profile  Visit Gwenfloor's Homepage Send Gwenfloor a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
I have bought the book Champions of Ruin, and enjoyed it immensely. I have heard of its holy counterpart, Champions of Valor, and though I have a general idea of what it is about, perhaps you folks could enlighten me on the book to help me make an informed decision.
Thank you!

KnightErrantJR
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USA
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Posted - 08 Jun 2007 :  02:32:58  Show Profile  Visit KnightErrantJR's Homepage Send KnightErrantJR a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You might check out the discussion in this thread:



http://forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4030&whichpage=14&SearchTerms=Champions+of+Valor
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Gwenfloor
Acolyte

39 Posts

Posted - 08 Jun 2007 :  02:52:08  Show Profile  Visit Gwenfloor's Homepage Send Gwenfloor a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I like the sound of this book. Thank you, Knight Errant JR!
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scererar
Master of Realmslore

USA
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Posted - 09 Jun 2007 :  01:24:05  Show Profile Send scererar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have them both and they are great
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MerrikCale
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Posted - 10 Jun 2007 :  04:54:24  Show Profile  Visit MerrikCale's Homepage Send MerrikCale a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I found them to be of average quality. For Champions of Ruin, Lords of Darkness was a much better book on baddies. CoV was not much use.



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Skeptic
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Canada
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Posted - 10 Jun 2007 :  05:00:46  Show Profile Send Skeptic a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MerrikCale

I found them to be of average quality. For Champions of Ruin, Lords of Darkness was a much better book on baddies. CoV was not much use.



They are the only 3.x FR books I don't own a copy.
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Uzzy
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 10 Jun 2007 :  07:36:56  Show Profile  Visit Uzzy's Homepage Send Uzzy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
And I loved Champions of Valour. Found it immensely helpful, and really enjoyed the depiction of the many good groups. The Substitution levels are very interesting, PrC's, feats and spells likewise, and I even like the artwork.
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Xysma
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Posted - 14 Jun 2007 :  19:43:48  Show Profile  Visit Xysma's Homepage Send Xysma a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I agree with Uzzy completely. I thought both CoR and CoV were excellent tomes. In addition, I liked the inclusion of the goliaths and avariels from the "Races of..." series.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 14 Jun 2007 :  20:26:50  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Xysma

I agree with Uzzy completely. I thought both CoR and CoV were excellent tomes. In addition, I liked the inclusion of the goliaths and avariels from the "Races of..." series.



Avariels have been in the Realms since at least 2E -- long before the "Races of" books.

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Xysma
Master of Realmslore

USA
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Posted - 14 Jun 2007 :  20:50:13  Show Profile  Visit Xysma's Homepage Send Xysma a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Xysma

I agree with Uzzy completely. I thought both CoR and CoV were excellent tomes. In addition, I liked the inclusion of the goliaths and avariels from the "Races of..." series.



Avariels have been in the Realms since at least 2E -- long before the "Races of" books.



Oops, I meant raptorans. Thanks Wooly.

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